Winter 2012 Anime Thread of Roundcats Up in This
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Sounds pretty reasonable to me. I mean she's a lesbian, so where else would her powers come from? Like, step back and analyze what is going on in Guilty Crown right now for a minute.
Episode twelve has to be broken down into what is currently happening, and what is happening in the past. We find out that the main character had a sister who looks exactly like the current love interest. His sister was like, the originator of this virus or something I guess. The sister and Shu come across a body on the beach, and it turns out to be Gai, who has shown no previous sign of an extended relationship with Shu that would imply they were best friends when they were little.
Mana (Shu's sister(?)) performs CPR on Gai, ties him up when they're alone together, and insists that he has to be her body guard because she saved his life. She tells him she absolutely has to get married to her brother, and later makes out with Shu on the couch. And then Lost Christmas rolls around, which is like the turning point of this whole world where some virus spread. Gai invites Shu to a church to warn him about Mana, but ohhhhhhhh no, Mana is there. Then she gives Gai a gun telling him to be her protector, but it backfires or something and he starts to die (but doesn't because Gai pretty much has to go through a blender to actually die).
Mana starts to perform some ritual on him, which I guess is a marriage ritual even though she wanted to marry Shu, and then Shu comes in, and lets Gai know that only he can marry his sister. So he stops everything that's going on, and in one of the clumsiest scenes ever Mana gets mad/embarrassed and explodes, causing some kind of light explosion that kind of destroys things and kind of infects characters non-essential to the plot. Gai and Shu emerge completely unharmed from the rubble of the building, and Gai tells Shu he's going to go home and be a family man, so he just walks away or something. But Shu has selective amnesia for no reason, and remembers none of this.
MEANWHILE, in the real world. Spacial reason is strung up and diddled. A new character just kind of showed up in this portal and hey, he's like the main bad guy or something, so Shu leaves Gai dying in a pool of his blood to go rescue Inori, who is being stolen to be used in some ritual to bring back Shu's sister. This involves marriage again, and is being performed by some GHQ guy who is being assisted by the new main bad guy.
Mana is some super powered crystal tentacle monster, and she makes a move to penetrate Shu with a rather frightening looking crystal. Things look pretty helpless for Shu, but wait! Somehow the wall of this floating prism that has been set up in a weird space void gets blown to smithereens, and standing in the wreckage is Gai. He may have been bleeding out into a pool of blood but who cares, everything is a-ok now. Shu magically unlocks the ability to keep someone awake while their soul is extracted so there's some Kung Fu Fighting or something, and Gai shoots Inori with his gun and we found out that, *gasp* his void can extract other voids. Someone probably forgot to tell him that Shu can just extract voids and didn't need Gai to shoot her. So the main bad guy kills off his friend so he can come back later and inexplicably be not dead and leaves so Gai and Shu can wreck all of their plans and kill the reincarnation of Mana. Because, y'know, that makes sense.
Then some more nonsense happens. Gai gets spit-roasted by the tentacle monster or something, and Shu has to stab through him to kill Mana (even though hey, he could totally just step to the side and do the same thing). So Gai dies again, and Mana does too so there's another Lost Christmas or something where the city is destroyed. The episode ends on a cityscape shot with a crying Shu clutching his doll body part-time idol/part-time terrorist waifu who is a replica of his sister.
Mana (Shu's sister(?)) performs CPR on Gai, ties him up when they're alone together, and insists that he has to be her body guard because she saved his life. She tells him she absolutely has to get married to her brother, and later makes out with Shu on the couch. And then Lost Christmas rolls around, which is like the turning point of this whole world where some virus spread. Gai invites Shu to a church to warn him about Mana, but ohhhhhhhh no, Mana is there. Then she gives Gai a gun telling him to be her protector, but it backfires or something and he starts to die (but doesn't because Gai pretty much has to go through a blender to actually die).
Mana starts to perform some ritual on him, which I guess is a marriage ritual even though she wanted to marry Shu, and then Shu comes in, and lets Gai know that only he can marry his sister. So he stops everything that's going on, and in one of the clumsiest scenes ever Mana gets mad/embarrassed and explodes, causing some kind of light explosion that kind of destroys things and kind of infects characters non-essential to the plot. Gai and Shu emerge completely unharmed from the rubble of the building, and Gai tells Shu he's going to go home and be a family man, so he just walks away or something. But Shu has selective amnesia for no reason, and remembers none of this.
MEANWHILE, in the real world. Spacial reason is strung up and diddled. A new character just kind of showed up in this portal and hey, he's like the main bad guy or something, so Shu leaves Gai dying in a pool of his blood to go rescue Inori, who is being stolen to be used in some ritual to bring back Shu's sister. This involves marriage again, and is being performed by some GHQ guy who is being assisted by the new main bad guy.
Mana is some super powered crystal tentacle monster, and she makes a move to penetrate Shu with a rather frightening looking crystal. Things look pretty helpless for Shu, but wait! Somehow the wall of this floating prism that has been set up in a weird space void gets blown to smithereens, and standing in the wreckage is Gai. He may have been bleeding out into a pool of blood but who cares, everything is a-ok now. Shu magically unlocks the ability to keep someone awake while their soul is extracted so there's some Kung Fu Fighting or something, and Gai shoots Inori with his gun and we found out that, *gasp* his void can extract other voids. Someone probably forgot to tell him that Shu can just extract voids and didn't need Gai to shoot her. So the main bad guy kills off his friend so he can come back later and inexplicably be not dead and leaves so Gai and Shu can wreck all of their plans and kill the reincarnation of Mana. Because, y'know, that makes sense.
Then some more nonsense happens. Gai gets spit-roasted by the tentacle monster or something, and Shu has to stab through him to kill Mana (even though hey, he could totally just step to the side and do the same thing). So Gai dies again, and Mana does too so there's another Lost Christmas or something where the city is destroyed. The episode ends on a cityscape shot with a crying Shu clutching his doll body part-time idol/part-time terrorist waifu who is a replica of his sister.
No.
Sounds fun when you lay it out like this.
Who said there was anything wrong with it? I just want to hear his honest thoughts on it!
HA!
The most development you're going to get is wether x character (95% of the time will be Echizen) can overcome the Big Bang Attack, Scud Serve, Snake Shot or the Tezuka Zone etc.
Knight of the Area sounds more like what you're looking for.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Oh! Edo Rocket 20:
Every time I feel like this show can't surprise me, it goes and manages to put out an episode that turns things on its head. Here we have a thought provoking episode which manages to take a look at the character's motivations and explore what has lead them to act the way they do. Akai's character has gone through an interesting arc and is kind of like a darker look at a more typical/cliched shounen character. It's pretty refreshing to see. The episode had some pretty good surprises in it, and there were some great emotional moments towards the end.
Every time I feel like this show can't surprise me, it goes and manages to put out an episode that turns things on its head. Here we have a thought provoking episode which manages to take a look at the character's motivations and explore what has lead them to act the way they do. Akai's character has gone through an interesting arc and is kind of like a darker look at a more typical/cliched shounen character. It's pretty refreshing to see. The episode had some pretty good surprises in it, and there were some great emotional moments towards the end.
I need to catch up on this show.
It's not as fun as it sounds, it's just better than before. I wouldn't really recommend it and I want to stress the idea that you need to keep your expectations low.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
You know, reading this I think I've figured it out! Nagi from Hayate no Gotoku must have written this! I can think of no other explanation! ψ(｀∇´)ψ
Jex
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Oh! Edo Rocket is interesting because it it's that 'comedy' with plot and character development' that shows like Gintama are sometimes. Oh! Edo Rocket actually embraces that idea fully, which is why it actually has an end-point.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Yeah, that's true. Rather than going back and forth between 'comedy' and 'serious', the show embraces the concept fully, even having fourth wall breaking and crazy anachronisms in the middle of very serious moments, yet it somehow manages not to undermine the drama at all. It's a very unique series in that regard. While other shows can mix comedy and seriousness well, I can't think of very many that manage as perfect a blend of the two as Oh! Edo Rocket does.
Jex
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Nah, it builds character.
See?
Once again, I must stress that this is the joy of watching the whole show. When people skip to the end they're missing out all the context!
Crash Station
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I haven't watched it either and I like to think I'm one of the more (in)famous members. I do know the ending though.
Jex
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You're also a god of karuta?
MotionBlue
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I think Gai's
damn near invincibility is supposed to be a side affect of his infection with Mana's Virus. Its also the reason he can see voids, and why Inori gives him blood infusions.
In another life I was!
(I was referring to the type of character he is and how he looks and the manner in which he was teased. Saw a lot of myself in him)
It makes the experience that much sweeter.
Jex
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That's the special feeling that you can't get anywhere else.
Cheater! Then again, I guess you've suffered enough elsewhere.
Jex
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You're really covering the most important shows in the anime canon aren't you? I'm impressed at your willingness to watch anything ever again.
Pfff I did the whole thing last year. Of course, there wasn't like five other people doing it at the same time back then.
There's no need for an anime face:
Pfft, only because anime otaku insist on their monogamy romanticism.
It's been holding back harem anime for years.
If only they'd embrace the erogamer/ero-light novel mindset.
Maybe once the late-night anime industry runs out of all-ages light novels to animate they'll be forced to turn to Kill Time Communication or France Shoin for moe novels and we'll finally get real harem anime.
Shuffle should have went there. They were totally setting it up with Sia. Not to mention Sia herself is arguably a harem.
Jex
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Well, regardless of the writers other forays...it's not a 'crazy show' because they're clearly trying to go for the whole 'a bunch of crazy stuff and people interact' feeling, it's deliberate.
Do you have a link to that?
What? I never noticed this? What episode moment was this revealed?
If you're talking about during the festival, I don't think Taisuke raped her, she wasn't unwilling, she was just indifferent after to the situation after Taisuke told her Makoto was with Sekai then embraced her. I'm sure she just didn't care about anything after hearing that. And it's really out of character for Taisuke to do that. When Kotohana saw Makoto with Sekai, then she started crying, not before. Finally, in the next episode, Taisuke confronts Kotohana about what they did and he seems really happy, I think he'd try to avoid her if he raped her : /
Jex
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No, but I imagine the search will yield some results. I believe it was a string of posts made over a week.
I know, it kind of defeats the purpose of the whole exercise.
Then again, even if you think you know, experiencing it is a whole different matter. That's when the real fun begins.
I don't get it.
You want him to stay dead, although the joke wasn't funny I suppose.........
Yes it was, Kotonoha didn't say yes but didn't refuse either because she was in shock (dead eyes) and Taisuke took it as "it's okay to fuck me", which is why he saw nothing wrong in the matter the next day, and it seems you're forgetting that Kotonoha told him to forget about last night, where he had a confused expression about the whole matter.
Jex
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Duckroll has already linked to screen grabs from it for 'research purposes' so that you can think about it in detail.
I don't see how it's rape if she never even resisted. Do you wait for a girl to sign a contract saying she consents before you fuck them? If even he took it as "it's okay to fuck me" and she never resisted, how do you still think it's rape? Obviously she told him to forget it because she's obsessed with Makoto, but she still acknowledges what happened with him and wasn't even slightly angry with him, she was even polite about it. Do you think a rape victim would say to their rapist "I am Makoto-kun's lover, and that's why I can't date you", no I think they'd be slightly more vocal. Do you really think Taisuke would have continued if she resisted?
Their training is character development!
Characters bathe all the time in anime though,for fanservice and some just matter of factly. How is this different? Or is it because one of them is a kemono?
Jex
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[Gintama 100]
This is going a little bit beyond 'self-aware'. I like that that they highlight the joke structure of 'have weird thing happen - have straight man point out weird thing' shouldn't be overused. Sometimes, perhaps, it would be nice if something odd occurred and they didn't need a character to go "Man, that's craaaaazy" just so you couldn't possibly miss that it was a joke.
This is going a little bit beyond 'self-aware'. I like that that they highlight the joke structure of 'have weird thing happen - have straight man point out weird thing' shouldn't be overused. Sometimes, perhaps, it would be nice if something odd occurred and they didn't need a character to go "Man, that's craaaaazy" just so you couldn't possibly miss that it was a joke.
Crash Station
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That's just how the boke and tsukkomi routine is. Not really Gintama's fault there.
Just because she didn't say no does not mean she said yes.
And Kotonaha is an introvert oujo-sama who had already suffered quite a bit of emotional abuse throughout the series without getting pissed off at anyone, okay, okay she snapped at the end but that was the culmination of holding it all in, it's part and parcel of her character.
And who knows if Taisuke would have stopped if she resisted, he was desperate for a girlfriend from episode 1 and forced himself on Kotonoha after his one sided confession.
And who knows if Taisuke would have stopped if she resisted, he was desperate for a girlfriend from episode 1 and forced himself on Kotonoha after his one sided confession.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Canines have multiple nipples.
Jex
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Just because that's how it works doesn't mean they have to use it!
That there is well retarded. So if you're having sex with a girl unless she never explicitly says she consents by saying "yes" or something along those lines, it means she might not be consenting? Are you insane? I'm not arguing with you about this anymore, because you've distorted everything with assumptions. Rape is a very extreme term, and if it was rape she would have resisted and by the next episode she would not have been so nice to him. Let it go, admit you're wrong -_-
So Anime-GAF, I'm watching Bakemonogatari. Shit is surreal as fuck, the characters are all goofy as hell and the supernatural elements are pretty different from other things I've seen in anime.
I'm up to Episode 13 and a few things are on my mind, though they are a bit superflouous:
- Why does Araragi perv so hard on Mayoi? :lol
- Kanbaru is fucking awesome.
- I get the feeling that class rep chick is final boss tier.
But beyond that, I'm kinda confused a little about something. What is this show supposed to be? Like I enjoy it, but I really don't know what peg it's supposed to fit in and as such, I'm not taking in the whole picture but rather the things that stick out most.
So, I was watching this with my siblings after hearing about how it was the guys behind Geass doing it and wanting to make them go through a similar anime bonding moment this past holiday and the most recent episode was when the appropriate amount of shit was starting to get real
and up until that point, bar a few "ANIMEEEE LOGIC" moments, things didn't seem too crazy.
Now I read this and I'm caught between a state of "wat" and a desire to get back to watching this ASAP. :lol
*Extended Nerd Reference Inbound*
You know, reading stuff like this reminds me of my sister's MST3K like break down of this series using allusions to the Megaman X/Zero series. I personally lost my shit in a nerd way when big bad, carrying the original crystal starts shit up then takes over the town with misdirection and she shouts out "holy shit, it's Zero 3 all over again." Then there was the whole Gai and Shu plot lines in episode 11 coming to a head with
I'm up to Episode 13 and a few things are on my mind, though they are a bit superflouous:
- Why does Araragi perv so hard on Mayoi? :lol
- Kanbaru is fucking awesome.
- I get the feeling that class rep chick is final boss tier.
But beyond that, I'm kinda confused a little about something. What is this show supposed to be? Like I enjoy it, but I really don't know what peg it's supposed to fit in and as such, I'm not taking in the whole picture but rather the things that stick out most.
So, I was watching this with my siblings after hearing about how it was the guys behind Geass doing it and wanting to make them go through a similar anime bonding moment this past holiday and the most recent episode was when the appropriate amount of shit was starting to get real
(Bigger bad just had all the normal big bads killed off and started the crystalized end of all things while spouting something about providence, meanwhile team school children and Sugar the connect rolled up in a buggy to try and save the day while Inori sang for everyone)
Now I read this and I'm caught between a state of "wat" and a desire to get back to watching this ASAP. :lol
*Extended Nerd Reference Inbound*
You know, reading stuff like this reminds me of my sister's MST3K like break down of this series using allusions to the Megaman X/Zero series. I personally lost my shit in a nerd way when big bad, carrying the original crystal starts shit up then takes over the town with misdirection and she shouts out "holy shit, it's Zero 3 all over again." Then there was the whole Gai and Shu plot lines in episode 11 coming to a head with
Gai getting shanked and mystery villain taking Inori off to another castle.
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