Samurai Champloo has less yaoibait appeal than Sengoku Basara. Fact.
Winter 2012 Anime Thread of Roundcats Up in This
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hosannainexcelsis
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More accessible than K-ON perhaps, but western-centric is a stretch.
No, high school is bad. That's why shows like Urusei Yatsura and Utena are bad, because high school ruins everything.
What's wrong with Western-centric shows?
I would think modern Japan is more accepting of such a thing seeing as western ideals and customs and trends are becoming increasingly popular over there. Just as the western world has a fascination of Japanese culture. I think in today's Japanese society, Cowboy Bebop would even be more popular. I seem to remember it not being not nearly as big of a deal in Japan as it was in the west, but attitudes have changed somewhat there.
I would think modern Japan is more accepting of such a thing seeing as western ideals and customs and trends are becoming increasingly popular over there. Just as the western world has a fascination of Japanese culture. I think in today's Japanese society, Cowboy Bebop would even be more popular. I seem to remember it not being not nearly as big of a deal in Japan as it was in the west, but attitudes have changed somewhat there.
But what is "western-centric" in a meaningful way? Animatrix? Cowboy Bebop certainly isn't a western-centric show. It was not designed to appeal to a western audience, but rather it is a Japanese show made by Japanese for the Japanese which also happens to have international appeal.
That's my point. There might not be sponsors willing to fund something that is entirely western-centric, but something that has broad international appeal does not mean it is unappealing to a Japanese audience.
Delicious.
Cowboy Bebop isn't specifically western-centric, but the style of it definitely leans that direction.
By Western-centric I think of shows like Gunsmith Cats, Miami Guns (fucking lol), Chrono Crusade, Scrapped Princess, Spice and Wolf (some of these are medieval/classical period), and some more I cant quite think of now.
By Western-centric I think of shows like Gunsmith Cats, Miami Guns (fucking lol), Chrono Crusade, Scrapped Princess, Spice and Wolf (some of these are medieval/classical period), and some more I cant quite think of now.
None of those shows are western-centric. I really think it's an abuse of the term if you think they are. Shows created in Japan for a Japanese audience can also be appealing to people outside of Japan. WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?! Lol.
I feel only gratitude that he regained aesthetic sensibilities long enough to give the world Kusanagi Motoko.
Just because I couldn't help myself, I check out some spoilers for Symphogear 4.
I wonder what caused
I wonder what caused
that mess.
Crash Station
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Toriko 41
This is one of those episodes that really shows how awesome the Gourmet Age is. A carbonated lake? Fuck yes!
Glad they expanded on Toriko's house. The interior definitely looks cool animated with even more crazy ingredients. Though I do have to wonder how plumbing and gas would even work in a house made of candy. Also, wouldn't taking a carbonated water shower be counter-productive what with the stickiness and all?
Looks like we're about to enter a filler arc if that scene at the end is anything to go by. Hopefully it isn't too long.
The one right in the center is Kaito, someone that was cut out of the first episode but will most likely show up in a flashback since he's vital to one of the later arcs. The rest that you don't know will appear later.
This is one of those episodes that really shows how awesome the Gourmet Age is. A carbonated lake? Fuck yes!
Glad they expanded on Toriko's house. The interior definitely looks cool animated with even more crazy ingredients. Though I do have to wonder how plumbing and gas would even work in a house made of candy. Also, wouldn't taking a carbonated water shower be counter-productive what with the stickiness and all?
Looks like we're about to enter a filler arc if that scene at the end is anything to go by. Hopefully it isn't too long.
On Hunter x Hunter 2011
I was revisiting the opening to see it and was stuck on just this cap of it, I can make out four of them but who are the others? I gotgourmet hunter proctors, and the dude that played ball with them on the ship
The one right in the center is Kaito, someone that was cut out of the first episode but will most likely show up in a flashback since he's vital to one of the later arcs. The rest that you don't know will appear later.
No disputing that. I'm fairly certain that I had to actively ignore the yaoibait in Sengoku Basara, whereas that wasn't an issue in Champloo.
Team Chousokabe Motochika x Mouri Motonari represent.
Not really.
Not really.
The idea that people who live in a country are only interested in works of fiction set in that country is an inaccurate notion. The setting alone does not determine the target audience of a work.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Setting doesn't matter though, or Emma a Victorian Romance would have run on PBS instead of Downton Abbey.
I think when most people say western-centric what they actually mean is "a show with a scifi, fantasy, or western setting without a large number of direct references to Japanese culture." Obviously this does not exclude the Japanese audience liking the show, though. Or the western audience not actually existing.
But that was exactly the issue I was responding to. If what you say is true (and there's nothing wrong with that line of thought) then it would be inaccurate to say that no one would be willing to fund such shows, since they clearly still do, and such shows can be popular in Japan as well.
It was like a slow death by auto-asphyxiation.
Honestly, one good way to spot yaoibait is asking how many bishounens are in the show.
Well I certainly hope so. Though it seems like it would currently be much easier to get funding for a show along the lines of K-on, Madoka, or Bakemonogatari.
hosannainexcelsis
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Thermae Romae - End
The source material is obviously good, if formulaic, so it's a shame it had to settle for such an ugly and half-assed adaptation. Fuji TV must be saving up the big bucks to make the film a lavish period piece.
Actually it's the Flash animation studio DLE Inc. (Double-J, High Score). That doesn't change your comment about them not trying very hard, of course.
The source material is obviously good, if formulaic, so it's a shame it had to settle for such an ugly and half-assed adaptation. Fuji TV must be saving up the big bucks to make the film a lavish period piece.
Actually it's the Flash animation studio DLE Inc. (Double-J, High Score). That doesn't change your comment about them not trying very hard, of course.
Crash Station
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Shin Mazinger Z 15
Well that was a pretty unconvincing
for Stroheim.
Sucks about Lorelei though.
Well that was a pretty unconvincing
death scene
If you're on the verge of death, you shouldn't be easily leaning up and making loud speeches.
Sucks about Lorelei though.
I saw Gonzo in the credits, so I thought they were responsible, but it turns out they just helped out.
There's nothing particularly Japanese cultural about Madoka though. It's set in some undefined Japanese city, but that's about it. There isn't even a school festival episode!
MotionBlue
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Kill me Baby 04
Ninja continues to be the best character. Good skits this week too
Ninja continues to be the best character. Good skits this week too
This is the part where someone makes a troll post about Japanese men and little magical girls.
I think. as usual, we are going by different definitions of "western-centric". Im referring to the style of the show and its setting. Obviously I know that anime is aimed at a Japanese audience, and has almost always been the case.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
So is Avatar the Last Airbender an "Asian-centric" show?
No, it's an anime-for-people-who-like-to-say-they-hate-modern-anime show.
Memoirs of a Geisha is a great example of why setting and theme really has nothing to do with the target audience of a work. It is an American book written by an American for Americans which happens to be about Japanese characters set in Japan. It is also not very accurate, and written completely from a western viewpoint. The book was then adapted into a Hollywood movie by an American director, with a bunch of Chinese actresses playing the Japanese roles. Total and utter lolz.
No one would dare say this is a "Japanese-centric" movie at all. The Japanese really don't like it at all.
No one would dare say this is a "Japanese-centric" movie at all. The Japanese really don't like it at all.
Femmeworth
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Well, it is a SHAFT production.
There should be a sequel to K-on where they all become geishas.
She's blonde and has big boobs, and I could see her saying ara ara. She gets a pass.
Her hair is huge too, look at it bounce.
I'd agree with this. She looks a little out of place even.
Yes, so...bouncy.
Guilty Crown 14
I've figured out why I can keep watching this show every week. Reminds me of a Woody Allen quote, something like life "full of loneliness, and misery, and suffering, and unhappiness, and it's all over much too quickly."
Guilty Crown is a whole bunch of garbage all thrown together without much thought, but there's so much garbage that it manges to be interesting from moment to moment.
I've figured out why I can keep watching this show every week. Reminds me of a Woody Allen quote, something like life "full of loneliness, and misery, and suffering, and unhappiness, and it's all over much too quickly."
Guilty Crown is a whole bunch of garbage all thrown together without much thought, but there's so much garbage that it manges to be interesting from moment to moment.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
They would call it an example of Orientalism!
chickdigger802
Banned
man... I really need to rewatch guilty crown to figure out the 'plot'... actually fuck that. Anyone here wanna give me a recap on the overarching plot? There is some virus thingy and people have magical utensils inside them... and exposition happens. No clue what really happened in the last 2 eps besides Gai was random friend in the past that was magically forgotten. And there is the guy's sister who was victim zero or something...
Reminds me of the shitty setups from resident evil games lol.
Reminds me of the shitty setups from resident evil games lol.
Her design is significantly more garish than anyone else in the show, but if she ends up being a halfway-interesting character I'll care less about this
and, failing that, there's always the fanservice angle.
What? she looks like Michelle from ROD TV. I looooove mugi.
Anyway, back from my sushi run. time for CCS.
On Hunter x Hunter 2011
I was revisiting the opening to see it and was stuck on just this cap of it, I can make out four of them but who are the others? I gotgourmet hunter proctors, and the dude that played ball with them on the ship
4 of them are the hunter examiners, one of them the chairman, if you've seen the original anime
middle guy is Kaito, the third on the right looks like Biscuit
Papa no Iukoto wo Kikinasai! 3
I'm still not sure why I'm watching this. Maybe to see how they'll handle the whole March/June relationship, maybe it's because I have some crazy hope that it will get good, maybe I just hate myself. Whatever the reason, this is easily the most uneven show this season. Despite the EASY "MY PARENTS ARE DEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAD" drama, they made it this really weird, "we're going to live life as though nothing happened" thing, as though the loss of their father wasn't that traumatic. It took the 3 year old not figuring out that mommy and daddy weren't coming back for them to finally get to it, and then it was decent, but damn, it's hard to ignore all the dumb, poorly paced bullshit earlier in the episode.
High School DxD 4
Now this is dumb I can get behind. Well, mostly. Actually, not at all. Most of the time, I just want John Constantine to show up and just end it all (the British one, comic nerds, the British one). Whatever, I like that fantasy, and if that's what drives me through the mindless tits and waifus, then so be it, I'll keep watching. With my door locked.
I'm still not sure why I'm watching this. Maybe to see how they'll handle the whole March/June relationship, maybe it's because I have some crazy hope that it will get good, maybe I just hate myself. Whatever the reason, this is easily the most uneven show this season. Despite the EASY "MY PARENTS ARE DEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAD" drama, they made it this really weird, "we're going to live life as though nothing happened" thing, as though the loss of their father wasn't that traumatic. It took the 3 year old not figuring out that mommy and daddy weren't coming back for them to finally get to it, and then it was decent, but damn, it's hard to ignore all the dumb, poorly paced bullshit earlier in the episode.
High School DxD 4
Now this is dumb I can get behind. Well, mostly. Actually, not at all. Most of the time, I just want John Constantine to show up and just end it all (the British one, comic nerds, the British one). Whatever, I like that fantasy, and if that's what drives me through the mindless tits and waifus, then so be it, I'll keep watching. With my door locked.
The Knight in the Area 4
Ugh, Crunchyroll's player is an incredibly janky piece of shit.
Ugh, Crunchyroll's player is an incredibly janky piece of shit.
The stuff about memories from the owner of a previous heart in a transplant is so laughably stupid, I'm guessing this stuff wasn't in the original manga?
So basically Junichi is the second coming of Makoto.
CCS 43
Meilin attempts to make a cake. Fails.
The
appears and makes a mess of things
Meilin is adorable but
;_;
I see a bit of leeway that the writers left in that
Shows like this are not supposed to be this fucking good. There's like a rule or something.
CCS says fuck your silly rules.
Meilin attempts to make a cake. Fails.
The
twin Card
Meilin is adorable but
she has to go home. NOOOOOOO
I see a bit of leeway that the writers left in that
Meilin says that if Syaoran finds someone he likes better then he doesn't have to marry her, which leaves things open for Sakura
CCS says fuck your silly rules.
Femmeworth
Banned
Well, time to scratch Lagrange: The Flower of Rin-ne off of my list of shows to check out in the future.
Trojita
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On Hunter x Hunter 2011
I was revisiting the opening to see it and was stuck on just this cap of it, I can make out four of them but who are the others? I gotgourmet hunter proctors, and the dude that played ball with them on the ship
Why are you asking about characters that have yet to be introduced to you? Only valid one would be Kite, but that is because he was supposed to be introduced to you.
Femmeworth
Banned
That shit is unrealistic. I don't think my suspension of disbelief could take it.
You are going to miss out on a lot of really great music if you do that.
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