Watching a homophobe kill his career on facebook

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So being gay, something that does not effect you or anyone else is as worse as lying, stealing, murder and adultery?
Committing a homosexual act is different than just 'being gay'. Just like how wanting other people's money isn't the same as stealing. Please note that I'm not arguing about the righteousness of sins, I was just pointing out a fault in your post.
 
No, most know that the hive mind will get them banned. Post an unpopular opinion results in what the OP shows.

Post a hateful opinion that will offend someone and make them feel like this isn't a safe environment for them so that they never come here again?

Yeah, that will probably get you banned.
 
Biological error = not supposed to happen in nature = wrong from nature's point of view.

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I have several problems, one of them being narcolepsy. It makes me randomly sleep more and on unusual locations because my brain isn't handling sleep correctly. I consider it a biological error. Do homosexuals consider their gender preference a biological error?

In that sense, that it is something that in a perfect world should not happen in nature - yes, it can be considered an error.

However, what I'm arguing against is the using of this argument, and especially the breeding one, in a discussion about "do you think homosexuality is wrong and thus it's justifiable to hate on gays".

I've seen this argument a lot, "you're gay and you can't have kids so you are a nature freak!"; people who say that are forgetting that
a) gays can have kids, they just need to have sex with someone they don't find attractive (and many do this, because adopting kids by homosexual couples is still a big no-no in many countries); it's like saying that a man who doesn't find fat women attractive and is not planning a long-term relationship with her can't have a kid with that woman;
b) the science make it possible for you to have kids even without having sex;
c) there are many heterosexual people that can't have kids (infertility) or simply don't want to have kids;

Taking the nature error even further, nowadays people are born with lots of "biological errors". I'm a short-sighted heavily stuttering left-hander. I'm sure that if I was born few hundreds years ago I would be considered a nature freak incapable of living in a society. Even few decades ago, here in Poland, parents and teachers were still forcing left-handed kids to write with the "proper hand" because they thought that being left-handed was simply wrong. Thankfully it's not the case nowadays and I hope that in the future people will stop condemn homosexuality.
 
Are you seriously whining that you can't express your hatred for homosexuals?

No. I'm saying in any public social network/forum it isn't wise to post an unpopular opinion.

Timedog said:
Despite the fact that you wrote "no" at the beginning of your post, you didn't contradict anything I said.

So we should all man up and let unpopular opinions be heard? Do I really have to dig out examples where this is not a good idea?

OP expressed an unpopular opinion and some ass hole decided it was grounds enough to ruin his future. You'll have to excuse the homophobes who remain quiet about it, they're pussies.


Post a hateful opinion that will offend someone and make them feel like this isn't a safe environment for them so that they never come here again?

Yeah, that will probably get you banned.

So how bout posting a harmless but ignorant opinion?

edit: Can anyone who is gay seriously say they were offended by the OP? Its clear that the guy is just ignorant and only believes what the Bible tells him to believe. Hardly any reason for his future to be destroyed.
 
b) the science make it possible for you to have kids even without having sex,

Which is why we should ban science!
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So how bout posting a harmless but ignorant opinion?

edit: Can anyone who is gay seriously say they were offended by the OP? Its clear that the guy is just ignorant and only believes what the Bible tells him to believe. Hardly any reason for his future to be destroyed.

Hatred for homosexuals isn't harmless.
 
In that sense, that it is something that in a perfect world should not happen in nature - yes, it can be considered an error.

However, what I'm arguing against is using this argument, and especially the breeding one, in a discussion about "do you think homosexuality is wrong and thus it's justifiable to hate on it".

I've seen this argument a lot "you're gay and you can't have kids so you are a nature freak!", but people who say that are forgetting that
a) gays can have kids, they just need to have sex with someone they don't find attractive (and many do this, because adopting kids by homosexual couples is still a big no-no in many countries),
b) the science make it possible for you to have kids even without having sex,
c) there are many heterosexual people that can't have kids (infertility) or don't want to have kids.

Taking the nature error even further, nowadays people are born with lots of "biological errors". I'm a short-sighted heavily stuttering left-hander. I'm sure that if I was born few hundreds years ago I would be considered a nature freak. Even few decades ago, here in Poland, parents and teachers were still forcing left-handed kids to write with the "proper hand" because they thought that being left-handed was simply wrong. Thankfully it's not the case nowadays and I hope that in the future people will stop condemn homosexuality.
It was not my intention to attach any kind of negative feelings towards a group, hopefully my posts didn't accidentally made people think that. Everyone is basically born with biological errors, some happen to be great advancements and most not so, but that's how the gene pool works. I didn't add this statement to a previous post because I didn't want to lead the discussion: I was more curious about what people thought about homosexuality from a biological point of view. From a humanist point of view we all know how we should be thinking. I never liked any religious point of view.

You see, what I don't get is that 1 out of 10 people are homosexual. That's a pretty high number for something 'that shouldn't occur'. I'm quite fascinated whether it's considered a biological error or not.
 
Hatred for homosexuals isn't harmless.

OP does not express hatred for homosexuals... In fact his post would seem to suggest that he is at least slightly open minded to the subject of homosexuality.

Shouldn't we be outraged at the fact that there was such strong hatred towards a person who strictly follows their religion that it was enough for someone to ruin his future?
 
You see, what I don't get is that 1 out of 10 people are homosexual. That's a pretty high number for something 'that shouldn't occur'. I'm quite fascinated whether it's considered a biological error or not.
The statistics alone implies that it's not an error, but rather that it has actual use and importance. Matt Ridley does some good speculation about its purpose in his book Genome: The Autobiography of a Species in 23 Chapters. It's well worth reading.
 
OP does not express hatred for homosexuals... In fact his post would seem to suggest that he is at least slightly open minded to the subject of homosexuality.

Shouldn't we be outraged at the fact that there was such strong hatred towards a person who strictly follows their religion that it was enough for someone to ruin his future?

"is posted for those who agree with me" aka "yeah, let's talk shit about how much homos suck!"

The proceeding comments from the guy who wants to put his name "everywhere" seems like someone with too much time, but otherwise, this guy can eat shit.
 
OP does not express hatred for homosexuals... In fact his post would seem to suggest that he is at least slightly open minded to the subject of homosexuality.

Shouldn't we be outraged at the fact that there was such strong hatred towards a person who strictly follows their religion that it was enough for someone to ruin his future?

He's not open minded at all, what are you talking about? He flat out says gay is wrong and denies ANY dissent.

As for your second statement, no, a personal choice is not the same as something you are born with, so don't even try that argument.

It sounds like you have an ulterior motive behind your posting, but aren't brave enough to flat out say it. Do you agree with him? Or is it because he's religious that you have to defend him?
 
What's with the flow of comments on that Facebook picture? Did the same person reply 4 times in a row at 24, 23, 22 and 20 mins ago before anyone else even got a chance to comment? Dude was really getting his/her rage on if so.
 
What's with the flow of comments on that Facebook picture? Did the same person reply 4 times in a row at 24, 23, 22 and 20 mins ago before anyone else even got a chance to comment? Dude was really getting his/her rage on if so.

nah i chopped out a bunch of useless chatter
 
Why is anybody talking about whether something is an "error in nature" or not? Even if you could demonstrate that homosexuality is "unnatural" or whatever, that still doesn't mean it's "bad", "wrong" or something that ought to be prevented. To argue the opposite is fallacious, a mere appeal to nature.

But even the notion that you could do this is laughable, since something being a "mistake" implies that "nature" created us purposefully, e.g. with intent, rather than us being just a product of slow adaptive changes via natural selection. Homosexuality can no-more be an error than any other variation in human phenotype. We have philosophical ideals that we as a society strive towards, but these are not themselves derivations of Darwinian principles, e.g. "homosexuals are bad because they won't pass on their genes!" This is not to say that we view all genetic variation as valid; we attempt to cure many things we call diseases or disorders, but the way we decide what is within the acceptable range of variation is NOT by imagining what "mother nature" (a nonsensical notion to begin with) might want.
 
Homosexuality in Christian, Jewish and Islamic faiths IS a sin. That view is shared by billions of devout followers of god across multiple faiths.

What I love about many "devout followers of god" (not all are like that, mind you) is how fucking hypocritical they are. They select few things from Bible and follow it, claim that they know what God wants and why you are a shitty person that will be punished no matter what, yet at the same time they are completely oblivious to their own sins. (example: I wonder how many religious people confide that they illegally download files and how many atone for it; it's stealing after all).

According to the Church anti conception is also a sin (at least the former pope, John Paul II was all against it); you know how Onan ended for using the pull-out method and thus wasting his semen, don't you? According to the Church, the only rightful way of having sex without conception is a calendar-based contraceptive. Yeah, good luck with that. I'm sure that not a single person who claims "God hate gays!" ever used a condom in their life.

What happened to Sodom and Gomorrah is an example of how God feels about this.
What happened in Sodom and Gomorrah was promiscuity: people were fucking everything that moved, whether it were people (both straight and homosexual) or animals; they were raping each other. They wanted to rape (i.e. having sex by force) Lot's guests. Sodom and Gomorrah isn't limited to God punishing gays, it's about God punishing sinful people who do not respect neither His laws nor any laws at all; heavy promiscuity was just one of many sins people there committed and we're talking about people having casual sex with many partners - there's no distinction whether it was between two people of the same gender or two people of different gender (or was it an orgy). How was this story twisted to "God hates gays and here's a proof" is beyond me. If you're a straight guy/girl and have casual sex with many girls/guys, then you're committing the very same sin people in S&G were committing.

It was not my intention to attach any kind of negative feelings towards a group, hopefully my posts didn't accidentally made people think that.

Then I'm sorry, because I must admit that at first I thought you did that (as I've said, the "can't breed" argument is heavily used in anti gay discussions, even by our politicians :/, so I might be a little touchy on that matter); I misunderstood your intentions.
 
Homosexuality in Christian, Jewish and Islamic faiths IS a sin. That view is shared by billions of devout followers of god across multiple faiths. It would be bigoted not to accept the fact that so many people around the world accepts gods word and law on this. What happened to Sodom and Gomorrah is an example of how God feels about this.

Just like lying, stealing, murder and adultery is a sin, so is committing a homosexual act.

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He's not open minded at all, what are you talking about? He flat out says gay is wrong and denies ANY dissent.

As for your second statement, no, a personal choice is not the same as something you are born with, so don't even try that argument.

It sounds like you have an ulterior motive behind your posting, but aren't brave enough to flat out say it. Do you agree with him? Or is it because he's religious that you have to defend him?

How many religious homophobes would say "Homosexuals aren't bad people, they're not evil, they're not less human, they're not worthless"

Thanks btw for quickly jumping to the conclusion that I have an ulterior motive behind my posting. Exactly why posting an unpopular opinion is fucking stupid and shouldn't be done.

My opinion is that this guy didn't deserve the punishment that he received. That the other user reacted too quickly without thiking. My opinion is unpopular and thus most posters now think I'm a homophobe.
 
How many religious homophobes would say "Homosexuals aren't bad people, they're not evil, they're not less human, they're not worthless"

Thanks btw for quickly jumping to the conclusion that I have an ulterior motive behind my posting. Exactly why posting an unpopular opinion is fucking stupid and shouldn't be done.

My opinion is that this guy didn't deserve the punishment that he received. That the other user reacted too quickly without thiking. My opinion is unpopular and thus most posters now think I'm a homophobe.

are you using a pic of yourself as an avatar?? What were you thinking? your life is over
 
How many religious homophobes would say "Homosexuals aren't bad people, they're not evil, they're not less human, they're not worthless"

That is textbook deflection up there with "Some of my best friends are".

All saying that demonstrates is that you know your opinion is a stupid and ignorant one, but you try and come up with ways to make yourself look less rotten with all these qualifiers. See? It's OK that I think homosexuals are wrong, because I said they're not evil!
 
How old is a typical film school student? Early to mid-20s? Sad that something he could possibly grow out of could end up ruining his life. On the other hand, I can't even find him on google yet, so it's possible that this could blow over.
 
Circle jerking? Meh... never saw the appeal, but people do what they want to do.

Once you involve a biscuit, a definite line has been crossed, IMO.
 
Circle jerking? Meh... never saw the appeal, but people do what they want to do.

Once you involve a biscuit, a definite line has been crossed, IMO.

we used to do it when we were kids, also stick POLO mints into our foreskins and pile them up, who ever couln't hold the most had to eat them.
 
Those guys commenting on him come over as a bunch of assholes to be honest.
They give me the impression that they're in mostly for the thrill of thought-policing someone with an unpopular opinion and giving him shit for it rather than because they're really concerend about the gay people that took offense about his ramblings.
I hate those pc-nazis more than any biggot.
 
It was not my intention to attach any kind of negative feelings towards a group, hopefully my posts didn't accidentally made people think that. Everyone is basically born with biological errors, some happen to be great advancements and most not so, but that's how the gene pool works.
I also wonder about this. I can understand people who view it as a superfluous genetic difference like being left-handed, but some may view it not just as an alternate form but rather a disadvantageous difference. I've known gay people who said they would go for a "turn me straight" thing if science ever figured it out.

Of course, that discussion gets into all sorts of interesting questions because it starts addressing the brain and perception. What if science eventually figured out how to flip a "see myself as male/female" switch? It could solve a lot of frustrations in the lives of transsexuals, but then biologically changing one's perception of what they are is a profound decision.

It would be so fascinating to see it happen in our lifetime...

You see, what I don't get is that 1 out of 10 people are homosexual. That's a pretty high number for something 'that shouldn't occur'. I'm quite fascinated whether it's considered a biological error or not.
Where did you get that number? It's my understanding that it's something like 1% but most usually end up moving into large cities because 1% of 5 million is better community/chances of finding a partner than 1% of 50k, and then because this happens so often, large cities end up having even up to 15% or so.
 
Where did you get that number? It's my understanding that it's something like 1% but most usually end up moving into large cities because 1% of 5 million is better community/chances of finding a partner than 1% of 50k, and then because this happens so often, large cities end up having even up to 15% or so.
I learned that number during biology when I was in high school. I remember it being fascinating as I knew no one who was gay at the time, but statistically I should've been seeing 1 out of 10 people being gay. Now I have a hard time finding those numbers, I wonder if it was correct :|
 
Committing a homosexual act is different than just 'being gay'. Just like how wanting other people's money isn't the same as stealing. Please note that I'm not arguing about the righteousness of sins, I was just pointing out a fault in your post.
You sound like a real straight shooter.
 
I learned that number during biology when I was in high school. I remember it being fascinating as I knew no one who was gay at the time, but statistically I should've been seeing 1 out of 10 people being gay. Now I have a hard time finding those numbers, I wonder if it was correct :|
It might have been 1 out of 10 not being "fully heterosexual" according to Kinsey studies, but then I think I remember Kinsey studies presenting a much broader spectrum statistically speaking.
 
Dice said:
What if science eventually figured out how to flip a "see myself as male/female" switch? It could solve a lot of frustrations in the lives of transsexuals, but then biologically changing one's perception of what they are is a profound decision.

That'd only work if being gay is some kind of a binary switch where instead of 0, the switch is turned to 1. But it's not like that. There are many permutations of sexual attractions these days that I'd say that being gay is not simply the opposite of being straight. I believe the scale that Kinsey used for sexual attraction was more accurate in representing the diverse range of human emotion. So while there are those who are exclusively straight and those who are exclusively gay, the rest of us fall in between in terms of our attraction to the opposite and same sex. Thanks to restriction and shame placed by society at large, however, many are not willing to admit even to themselves, of how much they are attracted to the same sex.
 
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