Winter 2012 Anime Thread of Roundcats Up in This

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Nothing, I just said that other than loving English there is no real reason to watch Bebop's English dub instead of the original.

That's true for most dubs though, unless the original Japanese dub itself is bad, and I don't think anyone would say that for Cowboy Bebop.
 
In general, I find that I have a higher tolerance for dubs of series that take place in an international/fictional setting. Hearing English-speakers use Japanese names and terminology is always going to sound awkward and off.

Well, we're about 3-4 episodes into any given season, so the average expected lifespan of anime according to folks around here will be about 2 years. I give us pretty good odds on outliving that.

However, in about 3 more weeks the doom and gloom will subside and we'll be expecting anime to last forever again. I like our odds less in this situation. That is, unless we all become vampires who house donut-lovin-lolis inside our shadows.

But hey, by some accounts, nothing this season is remotely noteworthy, much less anime-saving! We might be in for a longer period of fear and uncertainty than we realize.

Except for Nisebros, who know what's up and realize that anime's future is bright as long as Ararararagi's harem adventures continue.
 
I should have excluded the most mainstream animation like Ghibli films, Sazae-san, Doraemon, etc. from the question, because major productions and shows for children will likely last forever. I suppose a better question is how long the enthusiast/otaku market will continue to be sustainable, as I think there's at least some real uncertainty there.

There is some uncertainty there, although the market is currently doing well enough at sustaining studios. I think there are two main concerns which are more realistic than everyone going out of business. First, that the votes of otakus' wallets will move late-night anime into the exclusive realm of poorly-made shows such as Infinite Stratos and Horizon. Second, that the outsourcing of animation overseas will cause a dearth of native Japanese talent in future generations and so cause the quality of anime to drop across the board.

But I don't have a crystal ball, nor am I an expert in this field, so I can't really predict what the future will hold. For now I'm content to enjoy the enjoyable and quality anime that's coming out and let tomorrow take care of itself.
 
So, over on Gaming the Crackle App made it over to the 360. They have anime and live action TV mashed up into one section... but the anime selection is weird. There's old stuff like Galaxy Express and there's also OreImo (without the OVAs though).

Seems to be a new option to watch random old shows anyway.

Oh wow! They have Slam Dunk.... and Star Driver. I don't know what is going on here.
 
In general, I find that I have a higher tolerance for dubs of series that take place in an international/fictional setting. Hearing English-speakers use Japanese names and terminology is always going to sound awkward and off.



But hey, by some accounts, nothing this season is remotely noteworthy, much less anime-saving! We might be in for a longer period of fear and uncertainty than we realize.

Except for Nisebros, who know what's up and realize that anime's future is bright as long as Ararararagi's harem adventures continue.

Then, what are the odds that any of us outlives the lifespan of fear and uncertainty about the lifespan of anime?
 
Pretty much anything that aired on Adult Swim in the mid-00s I've never watched in Japanese. That would include Bebop, Trigun, Big O, FMA, Inuyasha, s-CRY-ed, Paranoia Agent, Champloo, GitS, and a few other things. I think the first anime that aired on [as] where I thought "hey, this dub isn't so great" is Blood+.
 
There is some uncertainty there, although the market is currently doing well enough at sustaining studios. I think there are two main concerns which are more realistic than everyone going out of business. First, that the votes of otakus' wallets will move late-night anime into the exclusive realm of poorly-made shows such as Infinite Stratos and Horizon. Second, that the outsourcing of animation overseas will cause a dearth of native Japanese talent in future generations and so cause the quality of anime to drop across the board.

But I don't have a crystal ball, nor am I an expert in this field, so I can't really predict what the future will hold. For now I'm content to enjoy the enjoyable and quality anime that's coming out and let tomorrow take care of itself.

Cant do anything about it except buy it.
 
So, over on Gaming the Crackle App made it over to the 360. They have anime and live action TV mashed up into one section... but the anime selection is weird. There's old stuff like Galaxy Express and there's also OreImo (without the OVAs though).

Seems to be a new option to watch random old shows anyway.

Oh wow! They have Slam Dunk.... and Star Driver. I don't know what is going on here.

Theres a gaming section?
 
The voices' tones are pretty much the same, except for Faye who's constantly inhaling helium in the Japanese version.

I always thought English Faye sounded voluptuous, just like she should. I can't imagine her voice in a higher register.
 
Lupin III: Part I - End

It started as "cool" Bond-like spy action, but over the course of its run morphed into the goofy Saturday morning cartoon antics of a bunch of thieves, complete with Zenigata shaking his fist at Lupin after being outwitted once again and shouting "I'll catch you next week!" I enjoyed both, though I can see why Monkey Punch and his fans would be disappointed with the way Miyazaki and Takahata handled his franchise. Fujiko got neutered badly. At any rate, as long as the silliness was kept within sensible levels (by that I mean, not the time machine episode), it was a solid, well-executed show with occasionally stylish and notable direction. I didn't love it, but 'twas fun.
 
Chihayafuru fans: Did anyone else LOVE the flashback arc and a few of the beginning episodes but slowly become less and less interested as the focus shifted away from Arata, Chihaya, and Taichi, and more on Karata and the club members?
 
Taking a quick break from XIII-2 for dinner and Chihayafuru. Damn this thread ballooned in the last 20 hours or so.

Chihayafuru 17:
Solid episode, overall.
I thought the way that Taichi's breakup was handled was hilarious, and Taichi and Nishida's reactions to the other being there was great.
Harada is being a boss like always.

Penguindrum selling enOugh to keep Ikuhara on life support?

As long as it's enough that he'll direct something within the next decade, I'm happy.

Chihayafuru 17

An average episode.

Getting Taichi's girlfriend out of the picture was amusingly abrupt, but it does fit with the offhand way she was introduced. Well, those kinds of "girlfriend by default" relationships do exist.

That's how I saw the whole thing all along.
It was pretty obvious from Taichi's comments to Chihaya when they visited Arata that he was just kind of with her because 'why not?', so I thought the way it was handled made perfect sense in that regard.
 
So, over on Gaming the Crackle App made it over to the 360. They have anime and live action TV mashed up into one section... but the anime selection is weird. There's old stuff like Galaxy Express and there's also OreImo (without the OVAs though).

Seems to be a new option to watch random old shows anyway.

Oh wow! They have Slam Dunk.... and Star Driver. I don't know what is going on here.

Sounds like a lot of what's on Crunchyroll.
 
Chihayafuru fans: Did anyone else LOVE the flashback arc and a few of the beginning episodes but slowly become less and less interested as the focus shifted away from Arata, Chihaya, and Taichi, and more on Karata and the club members?

I think that's a reasonable position to take, as that's when the narrative was at its most emotionally powerful. Episode 3 remains my favorite episode. Still, it's managed to keep my interest since then; the karuta games are surprisingly exciting and there's just enough character development happening on the side. If you don't buy into its portrayal of karuta, I can certainly see losing interest in it.

Chihayafuru 17:

That's how I saw the whole thing all along.
It was pretty obvious from Taichi's comments to Chihaya when they visited Arata that he was just kind of with her because 'why not?', so I thought the way it was handled made perfect sense in that regard.

Agreed; it didn't bother me.
 
There is some uncertainty there, although the market is currently doing well enough at sustaining studios. I think there are two main concerns which are more realistic than everyone going out of business. First, that the votes of otakus' wallets will move late-night anime into the exclusive realm of poorly-made shows such as Infinite Stratos and Horizon. Second, that the outsourcing of animation overseas will cause a dearth of native Japanese talent in future generations and so cause the quality of anime to drop across the board.

But I don't have a crystal ball, nor am I an expert in this field, so I can't really predict what the future will hold. For now I'm content to enjoy the enjoyable and quality anime that's coming out and let tomorrow take care of itself.

So, basically odds of critical death = low but possible, odds of total death = very highly unlikely. I generally agree with this. I'm also curious what effect the ever-declining birth rate is going to have on pretty much all forms of Japanese entertainment in the future, as the market for everything is going to shrink.

Chihayafuru fans: Did anyone else LOVE the flashback arc and a few of the beginning episodes but slowly become less and less interested as the focus shifted away from Arata, Chihaya, and Taichi, and more on Karata and the club members?

I don't really do romance anime, so I was personally kind of happy that the show didn't end up focusing heavily on a love triangle. I genuinely like the competitive karuta aspect, and Chihaya is a really endearing character who could carry the show on her own even if I hadn't ended up liking the new supporting characters.

I can see how someone would feel like their expectations for the show were betrayed by how different it ended up being post-flashback, but I feel like the show is depicting how Chihaya is working her way toward blazing her own path in the world of karuta instead of doing it in part for Arata, as it may have remained if he had never
moved away and given up karuta
.
 
I was into the game at first, and it was introduced excellently, but there's just been way too many matches so close together (club practices, tournaments, training, etc) that they all just meld together to me now. The game has lost it's mystique.

It doesn't help that my favorite character in the show, Arata, has become little more than a phantom at this point. Chihaya is likable enough to keep me watching week to week, but the main thing keeping me from dumping the series all together is Arata's inevitable super sayin 2 comeback, whenever the hell that is.....Hopefully not the last episode.
 
Chihayafuru fans: Did anyone else LOVE the flashback arc and a few of the beginning episodes but slowly become less and less interested as the focus shifted away from Arata, Chihaya, and Taichi, and more on Karata and the club members?

Hm no. I think if the show had played its romance angle by the book and focused too heavily on what is a pretty traditional love triangle, it wouldn't have been nearly as good a show as it is. The karuta matches and the show in general are incredibly well directed, the romance works in combination to that rather than as an overpowering aspect of the show. I also felt that the flashback episodes were some of the least engaging, whereas many of the best episodes of the show came much later on. In short I think the show has succeeded(well at least critically lol) by putting most of the focus on karuta with the romance playing a siderole so to speak. In this way, the moments when the show does take a more romantic turn are often quite powerful. Arata's few moments have also been some of the most emotionally powerful in the show, his role as a sort of background main character has made for some amazing moments in the show I think. It's also allowed the side characters to much more fleshed out and interesting than I think they would have been had the show only focused on the main 3.
 
It's not January anymore on lesser continents.

Do you...do you want it back???

What? W-w-why would I want it back? I-I-I don't want it back or anything! Do w-w-whatever you want, I don't care!

Idiot.

You know, considering your love of gruesome and bloody death scenes, you really should be watching Another with us.
 
It doesn't help that my favorite character in the show, Arata, has become little more than a phantom at this point. Chihaya is likable enough to keep me watching week to week, but the main thing keeping me from dumping the series all together is Arata's inevitable super sayin 2 comeback, whenever the hell that is.....Hopefully not the last episode.

While Arata hasn't been physically present with the rest of the characters most of the time, the show has done a good job keeping him involved through both long-distance communication and a motivating force for Chihaya, then pulling him into a more direct role at appropriate moments. I mean, not too long ago we had a full episode (13) devoted to him and his backstory.

You know, considering your love of gruesome and bloody death scenes, you really should be watching Another with us.

Blood-C did it better.
 
That's how I saw the whole thing all along.
It was pretty obvious from Taichi's comments to Chihaya when they visited Arata that he was just kind of with her because 'why not?', so I thought the way it was handled made perfect sense in that regard.
The way it was all resolved makes
it feels like the author was trying to set up some kind of love polygon but then got disinterested.

Chihayafuru fans: Did anyone else LOVE the flashback arc and a few of the beginning episodes but slowly become less and less interested as the focus shifted away from Arata, Chihaya, and Taichi, and more on Karata and the club members?
It essentially went from a relationship show with sports to a sports show with relationships.
 
Penguindrum 1

Sho and Kan are pretty cool, great character designs. I like the animation direction for the series and seems quite emotional of a series.
Survival Strategy is a cool concept, and am curious what this penguindrum truly is and if girl can truly be saved from death.

Steins Gate 13/14

Phenomenal.
My tears, that was pretty emotional, Mayuri's spiral of continued death was too much to handle, especially falling in front of the train. John Titor was mindblowing.

Tiger & Bunny 12/13

Stunning conclusion to the first half and Kotetsu and Bunny make a great team. Love it when they get along. Hope Ivan has a more visible role in the second half, would love to see my favorite get more in action.
 
It doesn't help that my favorite character in the show, Arata, has become little more than a phantom at this point. Chihaya is likable enough to keep me watching week to week, but the main thing keeping me from dumping the series all together is Arata's inevitable super sayin 2 comeback, whenever the hell that is.....Hopefully not the last episode.
Arata's intent was to theme, I feel, and I dont ever think he'll be there to do more than it.
 
Daily Lives of Nichibros 4

I was already really feeling this episode but goddamn that last skit got me good. Karasawa is my husbando.
 
Cowboy Bebop Episodes 2-7

Now I’m starting to get why Bebop is so heavily revered. Really enjoyed episodes 5 and 6 the others were just okay.

Moribito Episode 12

Holy shit, when is the plot going to pick back up? Don’t get me wrong this was a good episode but let’s get this ball moving.

Chihayafuru Episode 17

Chihaya is finally starting to work on something other than speed. If she’s not god-tier at karuta by the end of this series I’m going to be pissed.
 
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