For the first time ever Xbox 360 tops PS3/Wii in Yearly global sales (14.9/14.1/10.3)

*Hugs XBOX 360 fat and PS3 Phat*

Both systems had amazing games this year, and got near equal playtime from me. Netflix was my highest use on both consoles though.
 
Takao said:
My last post should explain why I dropped my play time total. I'm slowly drifting further away from consoles entirely to the point where I'm not sure I'll be buying any next generation consoles. The fact that the 2011 market leader is the one that didn't bother me at all concerns me a bit about the future.
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Yeah, but for those 14+ million that got an Xbox 360; it will be the first time they play many of the games that has been released all this years; on top of the ones that got it for Kinect. So is not like 5+ years of games should be ignored now; when to many it will be the first time they play those games.
 
2011 was probably the year where I've played the fewest amount of hours of games total.
I think I beat like 3 or 4 games. And a couple of those were super short.
 
Cheech said:
The PS3 doesn't exactly have a vast JRPG/SRPG libary either. That genre of game is pretty niche nowadays.
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I am inclined to agree, but it is larger then the Xbox's.

However, let's go back to here:

Cheech said:
You might want to consider board games then. The 360's software library is as broad as any other console in the history of gaming.
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False.

PS2 has about 2,016 games.

Xbox 360 has about 887.

Not even close.
 
Poster makes jokes about pedophile-friendly art in JRPGs, gets slammed by posters with little girls for avatars.

Takao said:
It's telling that the only 360 games I bought this year were multi-platform and only purchased on 360 because my PC is jank, or is considerably better on 360 than PS3.
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Out of curiosity, do you think that this makes you a case-study or an anomaly?
 
AngelSoldier said:
PS2 has about 2,016 games.

Xbox 360 has about 887.

Not even close.
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Why aren't you counting XBLA?

And Indie has a nice number of awesome games too.

Shit, if you're counting the PS2's shovelware, then throw the 2,294 Indie Games in there.
Oh look, that alone is more than the total amount of PS2 games.
 
KageMaru said:
I thought this was a typical cocky move I hate seeing from a company and it sucks that they fulfilled that goal. Still, congrats MS.
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Hmmm, tell me more...
Takao said:
Because it disappoints me that hardware with software that doesn't target me at all manages to achieve such success. I would've thought larger success = larger target audience but my interests are niche and I suppose don't fit in with MS's plans.
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Larger success DOES equal larger target audience. The 360's library DOES reach a larger target audience than the PS3's. And for most of this generation (possibly even now), the 360 has satisfied more niche gamers than the PS3. XBL Indies, XBLA, Cave Shooters, Motion Control Games, Kids Games, hell even now the 360 probably has a better range of JRPGs to pick from.
 
Cheech said:
You might want to consider board games then. The 360's software library is as broad as any other console in the history of gaming.
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If by broad you mean the majority of titles in specfic genres than yes I agree but I would say that it's not near as broad as previous systems like playstation 1 and 2 or even the dreamcast
Captain Tuttle said:
They lost literally billions of dollars.
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Yes and I still think it should have hurt them way more than it did, I just hope next gen it makes a difference.
 
Sho_Nuff82 said:
Most 360 software is 3rd party, and the vast majority of it is multiplatform. It's not something to be ashamed of.
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Of course not, that was my point! It's funny when posters here with fringe preferences apply them to the entire market in order to make a point, the same thing happens in threads about smartphones where people declare proudly that they don't even have a mobile phone as though it's a badge of honour, when really they're just as boring and tiresome as hippies who can't stop telling you how many years it's been since they watched TV.
 
Takao said:
I played video games on my 360 for like 10 hours the entirety of 2011. :/
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I played less than that, as I picked up a PS3 and made a concerted effort to switch to that. It kinda blows that the PS3 user experience is inferior in every way to the 360's but it's a price I'm willing to pay in order to send the message that I'm not paying to play online.
 
Hmm, yea my 12M estimate may be a little low for a year with near certain price cut.

80M possible this year then.

Forgot about that Mattrick quote and said little chance of that happening without a cut; bow.

I wonder if they would do one more redesign as it is my opinion the growth has been about just as much as that as it has been Kinect. They have to see the value here.
 
Someone really trolling this thread and making it a 360 vs PS3 bitching match? Christ.

How about you play both? Or play one and be happy?
 
Lothars said:
If by broad you mean the majority of titles in specfic genres than yes I agree but I would say that it's not near as broad as previous systems like playstation 1 and 2 or even the dreamcast Yes and I still think it should have hurt them way more than it did, I just hope next gen it makes a difference.
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Again, the word "breadth" does not have anything to do with quantity.

Pre-Kinect, I would even grant you the Dreamcast, but that ship sailed. Kinect alone is responsible for many new console experiences that were not possible before.

The fact of the matter is that the "breadth" you guys cling to in the PS1/PS2 days is only because the genres you're thinking about are dead, or on life support. Final Fantasy 13 was a pile, and SRPGs like Agarest War are just trash. In fact, the only SRPG that wasn't targeted at a perv/pedo audience that I can think of was Valkyria Chronicles, which sold roughly 5 copies. When excellent games like that don't sell, I think it's safe to say the genre is dead.

The last JRPG I can remember enjoying was Skies of Arcadia (I don't really count Demon's Souls as a traditional JRPG). It's been a long road downhill from there. I can't fault Microsoft for trying to buy all those exclusives early in the gen to try to attract a Japanese audience, but it was a fools' errand. Cutscene heavy, traditional JRPG/SRPGs are dead. Nobody is buying them. If there is an additional example of "variety" you guys want that the 360 doesn't have, I'd like to hear about it, because the console has everything else in spades.
 
Takao said:
Maybe if we were in 2008. In 2012 that's far from being anything near truth. Many of the 360's exclusive JRPGs are now on PS3, and there's a tonne of JRPGs that are now PS3-only.

I disregard most of the DD stuff since a huge glut seems to be arcade, or top down shooters and tower defense games. I play mostly platformers and RPGs so while there's games there, it's slim pickings for quality stuff.
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LOL! So then you're comment about BROAD target audiences was bullshit. You just wanna play more JRPGs. and let's face it, even the handful of jRPGs the PS3 gets exclusively aren't even that great. Tell me how much time you've logged into these exclusive RPGs.

Given Microsoft's first party output is incredibly narrow in scope, I imagine the overwhelming majority of software bought on it is third party.
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With Kinect, XBLA publishing, and big heavy hitters that are equivalent to Sony's, Microsoft has a much wider publishing scope.
 
Bombillazo said:
'09 was a huge year for Wii O.o

Wii momentum is fading real fast, no wonder Nintendo is pushing Wii U for this year and planning a huge launch for the machine.
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Nah, '08 was Wii biggest year.

Nintendo is releasing a new system because its current platform fulfilled the usual 5/6 year cycle.
 
Takao said:
Maybe if we were in 2008. In 2012 that's far from being anything near truth. Many of the 360's exclusive JRPGs are now on PS3, and there's a tonne of JRPGs that are now PS3-only.

I disregard most of the DD stuff since a huge glut is arcade, or top down shooters and tower defense games. I play mostly platformers and RPGs so while there's games there, it's slim pickings for quality stuff. Yeah, I know of Bastion, and Wakfu. Yes, I've played Super Meat Boy.



Given Microsoft's first party output is incredibly narrow in scope, I imagine the overwhelming majority of software bought on it is third party.
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Hardly accurate.


Boney said:
why are we talking about playtime on a sales thread

is this the new wii is gathering dust thing?
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Ask Takao
 
Takao said:
Given Microsoft's first party output is incredibly narrow in scope, I imagine the overwhelming majority of software bought on it is third party.
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That doesn't really answer my question though, do you think that the 360 library is unappealing to everyone or just you? Because the continued success of the console, in fact increasing success, would indicate that you're an anomalous data point. Most people don't care whether games are exclusive, and will only buy one games console, so even if the software is 3rd-party they're going to buy it for their 360, when in your case it's pretty clear that you would buy the PS3 version, except in extreme circumstances.

So basically, the time you've personally spent playing your 360 this year is doubly irrelevant to this thread as personal anecdotes are worthless, and your preferences clearly don't mirror those of the market.
 
Takao said:
Maybe if we were in 2008. In 2012 that's far from being anything near truth. Many of the 360's exclusive JRPGs are now on PS3, and there's a tonne of JRPGs that are now PS3-only.

I disregard most of the DD stuff since a huge glut is arcade, or top down shooters and tower defense games. I play mostly platformers and RPGs so while there's games there, it's slim pickings for quality stuff. Yeah, I know of Bastion, and Wakfu. Yes, I've played Super Meat Boy.
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You like platformers and didn't even list Outland!
 
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