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There's 3: Control(left),Destroy(right), or merge(middle)
Choseing the middle makes all organics to biosynsethics
Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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There's 3: Control(left),Destroy(right), or merge(middle)
Choseing the middle makes all organics to biosynsethics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlgfryAh0aw&feature=related
Watch this. Only option is to destroy, and when the vid shows the earth battle, the fire burns the soldiers too, and a fire "wave" covers the planet.
BuckRobotron
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I finished it first time last night (Paragon, yet chose Destroy but could always redo the endrun...). Perhaps because I was prepared beforehand, it didn't make me as angry as it did many others. That does not mean I liked it, and I await further comment from Bioware so I can judge the intelligence (or lack thereof) that was responsible for it. But regardless, there was a finality to it that I expected in terms of extreme galactic solutions to fighting the Reapers, a dire feeling that the other characters were also written to recognize as you make that final somewhat-tedious London run.
But it was an entertaining ride, generally improved combat gameplay--especially in variety of weaponry--and nice resolution with other characters and love interests (Tali in this case). Very solid integration with previous game saves too. Indeed ME3 without an import sounds terrible in some ways, especially in regards to the lack of romance options.
Speaking of which, just imported another ME2 game, a part-renegade (selectively barking at people who piss him off, but nice to most friendlies) who romanced Ashley and stayed exclusive. And already a lot of the first Mars mission has changes where Shep specifically looks at or references Ash when in other games he might talk about saving people in general.
So the ending has not eliminated my interest in seeing at least some other story variations before it.
But it was an entertaining ride, generally improved combat gameplay--especially in variety of weaponry--and nice resolution with other characters and love interests (Tali in this case). Very solid integration with previous game saves too. Indeed ME3 without an import sounds terrible in some ways, especially in regards to the lack of romance options.
Speaking of which, just imported another ME2 game, a part-renegade (selectively barking at people who piss him off, but nice to most friendlies) who romanced Ashley and stayed exclusive. And already a lot of the first Mars mission has changes where Shep specifically looks at or references Ash when in other games he might talk about saving people in general.
So the ending has not eliminated my interest in seeing at least some other story variations before it.
Which is exactly why is irritating that it isn't even mentioned in the end. The god-child is spewing all this talk about "co-existence is not a option", and you just busted your ass proving in can be done, even if the future of the peace isn't going to be easy (we already had a discussion about this a few pages back). And if you did manage to keep both Quarian and Geth alive, you're only option to kill the reapers involve wiping the Geth too.
Turing to the what is the "paragon" choice, for me is control. Renegade was always a more pragmatic approach, which is what "kill the reapers, sorry about the Geth" is. Also.. it's the red option! (really Bioware? Red, Green and Blue as the colors of space magic? Way to be creative, hehehe)
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If I'm reading the ign guide right, synthesis is the last *choice* to unlock based on the readiness score, requiring 2800, so one could assume is Bioware way of saying it's the best ending. The "Shepard lives" 5 second requires more, but to me it's just a little easter egg, and it appears you have to play multiplayer to get it, while the synthesis can be obtained with singleplayer alone.
Yeah, if you played ME2 right and did all the of the ME3 side missions on Rannoch. If you don't play ME2, it's impossible to get peace.
Shepard ended the conflict 300 years later, and that's arguably only because he's Space Jesus. If, in the future, without such a pragmatic leader to lead everybody to deliverance, whose to say that the synthetics won't rise up and destroy all organics? It almost happened during the Prothean's cycle.
The Librarian
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Yup. Plus, the Salarians didn't create Krogan, nor Cerberus Shepard. Plus, the only reason why there was any major conflict between organic races and synthetics was because Sovereign initiated it.
Okay? That doesn't negate anything I said. It was all because of Sovereign, not by chance. The theme would make sense if ME1 was introduced while humanity was fighting a robot army of its own creation – or if the galaxy was united in fighting a war with machines – but it wasn't. The reasons was pulled out of BioWare's ass, there's no other way around it. There's no justification in it. It doesn't make sense within the context of the trilogy or its major themes.
Shining Sunshine
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Then what's Synthesis? I thought that was Paragon since it saves everyone.
I think the other two are renegade, but the ending is absurd anyway.
I prefer it symbolized by Shepard if I'm going to delude myself into believing it was all a Reaper indoctrination ending. Shepard can choose to go either the routes of Saren or TIM, or he can do what no one before him has done and defy the Reapers and their brainwashing.
But it also doesn't change the fact that a theme of ME1 was synthetic life vs. organic life. It doesn't matter humans didn't create them, they still were fighting them and avoiding being wiped out.
You're clinging for desperation's sake. Just as the person who wrote that is all "BioWare will release the true ending any minute now derp!"
Zomba13
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I'd say that was the middle ground. Everyone lives but they also become organic/synthetic cyborgs against their will with no input from them. They never asked for that.
The control option was the blue option (with bioware blue = paragon) plus with Shep in command of all the reapers he could move them to dark space and have them destroy each other (I like to think that is what my shep did).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qYm738hq1o
so incredibly overused but truthful at the same time. Funny too lol.
so incredibly overused but truthful at the same time. Funny too lol.
Why the fuck people talk last 20-30 pages about ending being just a dream ?
BIOWARE FUCKED ENDING. There is no dream sequence.
Reapers were motivated for stupid reasons.
Illusive man from best character from whole series become another idiot with complex
Anderson can die or die.
You can die, die or die.
Joker teleports himself with whole crew for unknown reasons into mass relay and then he lands on some unknown planet.
Whole fleets of your allies are stuck on solar system never to go back.
There is no logic in whole ending.
5 year old kid would write better ending. Shit even clishe reapers were defeated and everybody lived happy would be better.
Even not telling why reapers come in first place would be 10x better than this.
Meanwhile spacesim Freespace 2 delivered pure awasome ending with whole alien war being just tool to use their biggest ships to make a supernova and teleport/spacewarp them to their destination/home planet.
Damn even in this thread there were better fan endings than this.
Game is awasome in 99% with 1% of it being super shit.
And here is something 100x better and they cut it. make it and cut that crap about space harvest and shit and roll credits..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=booBmcFw_Lk
BIOWARE FUCKED ENDING. There is no dream sequence.
Reapers were motivated for stupid reasons.
Illusive man from best character from whole series become another idiot with complex
Anderson can die or die.
You can die, die or die.
Joker teleports himself with whole crew for unknown reasons into mass relay and then he lands on some unknown planet.
Whole fleets of your allies are stuck on solar system never to go back.
There is no logic in whole ending.
5 year old kid would write better ending. Shit even clishe reapers were defeated and everybody lived happy would be better.
Even not telling why reapers come in first place would be 10x better than this.
Meanwhile spacesim Freespace 2 delivered pure awasome ending with whole alien war being just tool to use their biggest ships to make a supernova and teleport/spacewarp them to their destination/home planet.
Damn even in this thread there were better fan endings than this.
Game is awasome in 99% with 1% of it being super shit.
And here is something 100x better and they cut it. make it and cut that crap about space harvest and shit and roll credits..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=booBmcFw_Lk
First Name
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This makes more sense to me considering the destroy option is pretty much genocide. Some end justifies the means stuff there which seems more fitting with a renegade choice.
thetrin
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It's not a central theme of the story, and never has been. To make it the crux of your final decision in ME3 is completely out of left field. It's especially stupid if you manage to end the war between the Quarians and the Geth, because you basically do what the reapers were not able to do, and you do it without wiping out civilizations.
And then in the end you doom everyone and kill yourself anyway? What the flying fuck?
...Coming to harvest the wallets of lowly organics, as they will next try to peddle DLC that leads off where the Normandy crashes. That is my bet.
Oh, I agree that it's a stupid thing to base the main plot of the series on after the events in ME2, but that theme was present in ME1.
So the Reapers assume other robots we create will kill us off completely? Why do they care about organics? Why have us around at all. Having organics around creates the possibility of dead reapers ultimately.
The fact that a new cycle happened anyway and without the mass relays is kind of a bummer. No mass relays is the biggest one but they can always write themselves out of that.
I think what I dislike about the ending is if I pick "Destroy", I want to see Reapers fucking exploding. If I pick control I want to see Shepard controlling the fucking Reapers and making them play dub-step or something. A really unsatisfying FMV for each choice is really lame.
I think he's referring to the brief cinematic that flashes during the description of the destruction ending. It shows Anderson making that choice, just as it shows TIM taking the control option.
Vid reminds me of how much better FemShep's lines are, over ManShep.
HarryHengst
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Not enough War Assets or whatever its called. I did all three endings on a 5000+ score and 100% Effective Military Score and the Destroy option did not burn the soldiers.
They assume the synthetics would kill all organic life in the universe, and not just the advanced races.
But it also doesn't make sense to "archive" the DNA of the harvested races and then do nothing with it. What's the point?
thetrin
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I never got the hate for Manshep. I played him all three games, using my custom face, and it worked really well.
Then again, you don't like krogans, so I can't trust anything you say.
My Destroy ending didn't burn the soldiers, either.
He's ok, but damn man, you've got a gut wound! Sound like you are about to die, not narrating a game show!
Maybe Wrex would change my feelings, but since I don't have a ME1 save, I didn't have him in 2 and 3. The Krogan left are just asses, that seem to want revenge, no matter if you cure them or not. Sure, Eve's pretty good, and would hopefully fix the Krogan's mindset, but as they stand now, they're a bunch of Doucechills!
EatChildren
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On a non "the ending is shit" topic, I was really disappointed that they never explored the yahg in ME3, beyond a quick cameo on Sur'Kesh. In fact, when one escapes I figured you'd have to fight it later in the level. Nope.
Also looked up the Tali picture. That, on the other hand, was more awful than I expect. Hilariously so. Such a shitty 'shop job.
Also looked up the Tali picture. That, on the other hand, was more awful than I expect. Hilariously so. Such a shitty 'shop job.
thetrin
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You only need 4000 for the soldiers and Shep to live. The only difference is that if you want them to live at 4000, you need to save Anderson from TIM. In 5000, you can get all that good stuff but you don't need to save Anderson.
Of course, none of that matters because Anderson just fucking dies anyway.
Of course, none of that matters because Anderson just fucking dies anyway.
HarryHengst
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Manshep has such a flat delivery. He improves a bit in ME3, but especially in ME1 its like he lacks any ability to deliver emotions.
Tali's picture is another stock photo taken from the internet, like Winter Space.
EatChildren
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I know, and it's an awful looking shop.
agreed!
Pollux
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Could someone whose going please film this? I was planning on going to PAX East, but won't be able to make it this year despite living down the street.
Same. I had about 3500 EMS too, but I didn't get that extra 2 second clip of Shepard living or whatever.
They only show up as a war asset working on the Crucible.
How dare you??? Did you forget about the "Steeeeeeeeeeeeeve" when the shuttle is crashing in the final section? hehehe
I don't hate maleshep delivery, I just think Jennifer Hale's femshep is better.
That had to be trolling on Bioware part... can't see any other explanation. All this teasing and they use a stock photo?
My rachni betrayed me before the final battle. I didn't get the ones from ME1 but I got that thing in 3 to help and sometime before the final battle I got a message saying it betrayed me
What's the consensus on Shepard possibly living?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RW_8qLPQrIc#t=76s
Bigger version: http://i.minus.com/ibvOu7FsY7mwJF.gif
Bigger version: http://i.minus.com/ibvOu7FsY7mwJF.gif
HarryHengst
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Im not really bothered by them using a stock photo, just like i dont care that they modelled ManSheps face after a real model. I would have liked for Tali to have looked a bit more original and less like a human i guess. THe only thing im confused about is the hair, she should have been bald from always wearing that suit.
Must have been my situation too. Saved Soldiers, no 2 seconds of Shepard living. Which...how, HOW? Nevermind not getting burned from the initial explosion, but the massive explosion? Or crashing on Earth? Or was Shepard "waking up" on an exploded Citadel piece, floating in space, without a helmet on?
Beyond the actual design, it's a bad photoshop. :|
lame
Just laziness.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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I'm bothered by the fact that they couldn't even model a face onto Tali. Nope, take the easy route and provide a photoshopped pic.
What's the consensus on Shepard possibly living?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RW_8qLPQrIc#t=76s
Bigger version: http://i.minus.com/ibvOu7FsY7mwJF.gif
Not sure what you mean. In that ending, Shepard survives. For no reason in the wrong place and limited to one ending with way too much war assets.
HarryHengst
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When i saw it the first time i thought it was Shepards chest, but now i cant see what it is at all? Her helmet?What's the consensus on Shepard possibly living?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RW_8qLPQrIc#t=76s
Bigger version: http://i.minus.com/ibvOu7FsY7mwJF.gif
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