Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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Yeah, that's what it immediately reminded me of, too. Except, you know, the ending to Hyperion was way better than this.

The two did touch on some very similar themes, if you think about it.

I'm reading the Rise of Endymion currently and I thinking the ending is going to be very similar to one particular ending in Mass Effect 3.
 
Yep. When Harbinger saw Shep and Garrus charging straight at him, he exploded out of fear and took all the remaining Reapers with him. The Citadel then exploded out of sheer awesomeness and the relays followed. Shep then used his biotic heavy melee to smash holes into the fabric of space-time and open up a new means of FTL travel.

Unfortunately this awesomeness caused the galactic core to go supernova, and the resulting radation gave him this strange vision where he talks to a god living on the Citadel's ass. It also caused speech defects and weird mini-adults for thousands of generations to come.

Even this is better than the actual ending
 
Someone at Bioware really liked the Hyperion Cantos. Destroying the Mass Effect relays is almost identical to destroying the farcasters at the end of The Fall of Hyperion, and oh the endings.

I've wanted an adventure game based on Endymion since forever.
 
Wait a minute. Doesn't the Catalyst reside on the Citadel? Doesn't it send out a signal to control the Reaper's? Couldn't Shepard just say "Fuck you", self destruct the Citadel, killing the Catalyst, thus ending the Reaper threat without resorting to control, synthesis, or destruction of everything? Or am I wrong in my reasoning?
 
Somehow I really want a Ending DLC. Seriously give it to me. I can not play the campaign with this shitty ending again. I liked everything till the last 15-20minutes. Hell I even liked the post credits sequence except that an adult model was used as a child.
 
EDI seems to always offer insight on missions when you take her as a squad mate -- what happens if you never take her? Does Shepard speak to her over the PA? Or do the other squad mates offer their own insight?
 
Guys. Im so sorry for ignoring your pleads of "The ending is crap". It is so bad. I am upset as well now... it's like 3 fucking games where I did EVERYTHING, thinking HARD with every choice and it ends the way Bioware wants. This is ridiculous.

Welcome to the support group.

We have punch and sadness. But mostly sadness.
 
I still think the entire video game world is blowing this shit out or proportion. It was neat. Yah, there wasn't a lot of closure- Don't worry, there's more stories to tell in this universe.

Can't wait that long? Don't worry, there will be epilogue DLC.

Don't let this ruin the rest of the game for you. Part of me wonders if Bioware planned this so they could demand for a DLC epilogue.

For what it's worth: 3>2>1. What a great ride.
 
Wait a minute. Doesn't the Catalyst reside on the Citadel? Doesn't it send out a signal to control the Reaper's? Couldn't Shepard just say "Fuck you", self destruct the Citadel, killing the Catalyst, thus ending the Reaper threat without resorting to control, synthesis, or destruction of everything? Or am I wrong in my reasoning?

I think that's the 'Destroy'-ending. He destroys the Citadel's magical power conduit that's conveniently sticking out right at that spot, and it cascades and kills everything remotely Reaper.

I really wonder what the fallout of the endings has to be. Having a galaxy that big and then ending it like that... I just wonder what the fuck would be going on in those character's heads when they see the Citadel going kablooey and discover the Mass Relays got borked.
 
I really wonder what the fallout of the endings has to be. Having a galaxy that big and then ending it like that... I just wonder what the fuck would be going on in those character's heads when they see the Citadel going kablooey and discover the Mass Relays got borked.

Well what about the people on the Citadel? Those thousands, millions of people just getting on with their lives (you could still see traffic lights moving during the Illusive Man showdown). All those people we helped, all that stuff we did on there... GONE.
 
I think that's the 'Destroy'-ending. He destroys the Citadel's magical power conduit that's conveniently sticking out right at that spot, and it cascades and kills everything remotely Reaper.

I really wonder what the fallout of the endings has to be. Having a galaxy that big and then ending it like that... I just wonder what the fuck would be going on in those character's heads when they see the Citadel going kablooey and discover the Mass Relays got borked.
You're probably right. Though it doesn't make sense why killing the Catalyst automatically kills anything synthetic. Magic beam of light to go along with the magic power conduit that powers a God and has no shielding of any kind which allows it to be destroyed due to fire from a pistol of all things.

Well what about the people on the Citadel? Those thousands, millions of people just getting on with their lives (you could still see traffic lights moving during the Illusive Man showdown). All those people we helped, all that stuff we did on there... GONE.
What was the point of even having War Assets related to Citadel defense if they were going to get steam rolled anyway?
 
I really wonder what the fallout of the endings has to be. Having a galaxy that big and then ending it like that... I just wonder what the fuck would be going on in those character's heads when they see the Citadel going kablooey and discover the Mass Relays got borked.
They probably didn't have much time to think before they got nuked from explosions caused by the relays, anyway.
 
Well what about the people on the Citadel? Those thousands, millions of people just getting on with their lives (you could still see traffic lights moving during the Illusive Man showdown). All those people we helped, all that stuff we did on there... GONE.

I'd been trying to repress that, but yeah.

Goddamit this ending is depressing.

"WE'RE GOING TO SAVE THE GALAXY! FUCK YEAH!"

*millions of people die*

"Fuck."

They probably didn't have much time to think before they got nuked from explosions caused by the relays, anyway.

I'm just going to assume that the kill-signal the Citadel sent out functions differently than smashing a relay with an asteroid. The 'pulse' you see them sending out is just the signal spreading before the relays deactivate.

Also, about that space gazer ending, I keep thinking the planet they're looking up at is actually Earth, but that doesn't make any sense. Then again, nor does it being a random planet, so I dunno.
 
I think that's the 'Destroy'-ending. He destroys the Citadel's magical power conduit that's conveniently sticking out right at that spot, and it cascades and kills everything remotely Reaper.

I really wonder what the fallout of the endings has to be. Having a galaxy that big and then ending it like that... I just wonder what the fuck would be going on in those character's heads when they see the Citadel going kablooey and discover the Mass Relays got borked.
I'm assuming this is how it goes:

Shepard makes a choice. The Reapers retract from battle and go off into space. Shepard either dies or lives after being shocked, but dies if he decides on synthesis. Hours later the Citadel activates to do what it does best: glow shit up.

Before that happens, the Normandy and other ships GTFO. Then they crash. The end.

I'm assuming that the Citadel is also a mass relay, in which case it's gone. In which case, Earth is gone, too.
 
I think that's the 'Destroy'-ending. He destroys the Citadel's magical power conduit that's conveniently sticking out right at that spot, and it cascades and kills everything remotely Reaper.

I really wonder what the fallout of the endings has to be. Having a galaxy that big and then ending it like that... I just wonder what the fuck would be going on in those character's heads when they see the Citadel going kablooey and discover the Mass Relays got borked.

That's why having no epilogue beyond "lawl jungle planet" is so shitty.

The universe literally changes completely in a moment and then there's no post-script to explain what the possible implications might be.

Either they ran out of time, it's a shitty cash grab, or Bioware are literally the best trolls ever.
 
I still think the entire video game world is blowing this shit out or proportion. It was neat. Yah, there wasn't a lot of closure- Don't worry, there's more stories to tell in this universe.

Can't wait that long? Don't worry, there will be epilogue DLC.

Don't let this ruin the rest of the game for you. Part of me wonders if Bioware planned this so they could demand for a DLC epilogue.

For what it's worth: 3>2>1. What a great ride.

Umm... really? I mean for one, the Mass Relays blew up, meaning none of them and two, if it follows the rule set by Arrival then EVERYONE DIES.

Apart from the Normandy crew who are now a bunch of space cowards who ran away from the fight for Earth.
 
Udina's betrayal was probably the most bullshit thing about the game I think. (Well, outside endings and the horrible set up to make the game's story work. You know... ruining your choices in the ME1 and ME2 endgames.)
 
I'm in shock man. 3 games... played through so many times. Feels entirely meaningless.
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I don't even know what the fuck ending I chose. I took the path to the left, what one was it?
They're all practically the same anyway.
 
Udina's betrayal was probably the most bullshit thing about the game I think. (Well, outside endings and the horrible set up to make the game's story work. You know... ruining your choices in the ME1 and ME2 endgames.)

I guess he was a convenient fall guy. And why did he start dying his hair?
 
Udina's betrayal was probably the most bullshit thing about the game I think. (Well, outside endings and the horrible set up to make the game's story work. You know... ruining your choices in the ME1 and ME2 endgames.)

I agree it was bullshit, but I could just see his character being that screwed up. He's always been shady as fuck to me.
 
the interpretation that shepard is just knocked the fuck out, dreaming at the and that the little kid is just harbinger manifesting in shepards head and that its deliberately trying to get him to not want to destroy the reapers and actively indoctrinating shepard almost unfucks the ending for me

i want to believe

i want to believe so much
 
I need to replay ME2 before I play ME3, so I decided to spoil the ending for myself last night. I figured that, since ME2 gave me the impression that BioWare had no fucking clue where they wanted to take the story, spoiling the ending wouldn't produce much discomfort.

Well, I was right. Spoiling the ending didn't produce any substantial discomfort, but I'm confused as fuck about the purpose of the Reapers. Basically, you have these evil synthetics who assimilate civilizations into their own flock on the assumption that organic life would be overtaken by synthetics? So... you have synthetics that are preserving organic life by... destroying organic life? What? What the fuck? What's going on here?

And yeah, the endings are totally ripped from Deus Ex.
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I'm probably going to return my unopened copy. The game is at least fun... right? I might just play through the game if it's fun. I don't fucking know. I'm not comfortable with giving BioWare my money anymore. This series had so much potential. ME1, while very rough around the edges, was a pleasant experience because it gave you a glimpse of what you could expect from a hard science fiction video game. (I'm using hard science fiction loosely here since ME1's fitting into the hard sci-fi mold is debatable. At the very least, for me, it gives off the vibe that's produced when I read a hard sci-fi novel.) Now it's just some lame-ass space opera shit.
 
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I need to replay ME2 before I play ME3, so I decided to spoil the ending for myself last night. I figured that, since ME2 gave me the impression that BioWare had no fucking clue where they wanted to take the story, spoiling the ending wouldn't produce discomfort of any kind.

Well, I was right. Spoiling the ending didn't produce any discomfort, but I'm confused as fuck about the purpose of the Reapers. Basically, you have these evil synthetics who assimilate/destroy advanced civilizations into their own flock on the assumption that organic life would be overtaken by synthetics? So... you have synthetics that are preserving organic life by... destroying organic life? What? What the fuck? What's going on here?

And yeah, the endings are totally ripped from Deus Ex.
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I'm probably going to return my unopened copy. The game is fun at the very least... right? I might just play through the game if it's fun. I don't fucking know. I'm not comfortable with giving BioWare my money anymore. This series had so much potential. ME1, while, very rough around the edges, was a pleasant experience because it gave you a glimpse of what you could expect from a hard science fiction video game. Now it's just some lame-ass space opera shit.

99 percent of the game is great. It just totally falls apart in the last 10 minutes.
 
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I'm probably going to return my unopened copy. The game is fun at the very least... right? I might just play through the game if it's fun.

It is fun, it has some amazing moments. It's just the ending... I really want to play through again, but there doesn't seem to be much point.

And that sounds like a contradiction... damn this game!
 
I expected Udina to do something stupid, Bioware has always painted him as a huge dick.

However, they didn't in this game lol. It comes out of nowhere. They didn't even bother to really let you understand where he was coming from. Seems like that would be a big deal given the character's history since ME1.


Also will I get banned if I made a thread called "Which game had the worst ending? FFXIII-2 or ME3"

EDIT: The game really has nothing to do with the ending, so you can probably get a lot of enjoyment out of it. However there will still be moments where you'll think to yourself "They had no idea where they were going with this even as late as ME2". Especially Cerberus stuff. However cool enough stuff happened for me to get over it.
 
99 percent of the game is great. It just totally falls apart in the last 10 minutes.

Yup.
And it literally is the very last 10 mins (well, not counting the credits. I skipped them because I was pissed). They really did fall at the last hurdle with this.
 
However, they didn't in this game lol. It comes out of nowhere. They didn't even bother to really let you understand where he was coming from. Seems like that would be a big deal given the character's history since ME1.


Also will I get banned if I made a thread called "Which game had the worst ending? FFXIII-2 or ME3"

Maybe just leave out the games in the title.
 
I expected Udina to do something stupid, Bioware has always painted him as a huge dick.

Well, he was likely indoctrinated to at least some extent by TIM, which makes sense given how much effort he's put into learning how to do it.

Indoctrination tends to twist the already existing things about your personality. Udina probably already believed that humanity would never receive any help from the rest of the council races, so a little indoctrination was probably all it took to lead him straight into Cerberus.
 
99 percent of the game is great. It just totally falls apart in the last 10 minutes.
This. It spoiled everything. I can't replay it because of the ending. It was a great Sci-Fi ride. My two favorite topics of ME2(and the only reason why I put the disc into tray) were main plots in ME3. But I know now, that everything I'll do is pointless and doesn't have meaning.
 
I guess he was a convenient fall guy. And why did he start dying his hair?

I figured he was indoctrinated, just like the Illusive Man. If not then yeah, he was a convenient way to get Cerberus onto the Citadel (as if the Citadel doesn't have any defenses that could have...you know...stopped them. If not, why has no one taken the Citadel before that?)
 
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