Oldschoolgamer
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I hope never. Shane was far more interesting as a character to me. He should have died on that rooftop.
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I hope never. Shane was far more interesting as a character to me. He should have died on that rooftop.
It's even worse when they were supposed to be on lockdown since Randell was 'said' to be out there with a gun.
walbertsmith
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Fair enough, but it was all based on what was filmed and established, so not sure how that's as big an "if" as what you said.
NYR
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Battersea Power Station
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What? I didn't know there was a new team, but I was thinking to myself that the dialog and melodrama in the last 3 or so episodes has gotten much cornier...
Different tastes, I suppose.
RamzaIsCool
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Maybe it's just me, but nothing that the characters do in this series makes sense. It's one illogical brainfart after the other. In the last 10 minutes of this weeks episode, I had atleast 5 wtf moments because of the stupidity that was displayed on screen. Is it like this in the comic too?
I like that Kirkman is apparently writing Daryl into the comics as well. He is absolutely the most deserving character to be written in from not originally being there.
bengraven
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What's an S rank?
Indeed, he's the best candidate to be 2nd in command now. Then they'll probably strain the relationship by bringing the psycho brother back. Some good developments coming in this show I feel.
OMG I don't know why I didn't make this connection before. DERP!
Seriously if he were to take Tyrese's place, I would be okay as long as he kills a metric fuckton of walkers when he gets trapped in the gym at the prison and everyone thinks he's dead. They open it up and find out good ol T-Dog took em out like a fuckin BAUSS!
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If Carl kept his ass inside the house and didn't run in on Rick about to kill Randal, Shane would still be alive because he wouln't of had to take him into the forest.
If Carl didnt give a shit about that stupid Deer, he would've never have gotten shot, thus Otis would still be alive.
AND he's responsible for Dales death too. Kid is the Devils son.
If Carl didnt give a shit about that stupid Deer, he would've never have gotten shot, thus Otis would still be alive.
AND he's responsible for Dales death too. Kid is the Devils son.
If Dale wasn't dicking around on the RV and spotted the large herd heading their way, Sophie wouldn't have ran into the woods, and none of what you wrote would have happened.
Hero_of_the_Day
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If the zombie apocalypse didn't happen, we wouldn't have a show.
RatskyWatsky
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And if we didn't have the show, then this thread wouldn't exist! :O
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If Sophia stayed put like Rick said none of this would have happened either. Rick wouldve found her in the same place he left her and they would have went along their way.
Lol. But what would they have done even if Dale had seen the swarm coming anways. Theyd still have to just hide it out, the highway was jammed and RV busted.
Hero_of_the_Day
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There is no Gaf.
Yes, he does that a lot. Lori is a bad parent.
Pachterballs
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It really would not have been hard for Rick to push/lift sophie up a tree. She's a child so she probably could have then climbed up.
sometimes.. logic fails this show and its stupid people.
Seriously?
Hide in the woods together until they passed rather than hide right beside their feet. They should have had a 5-10 minute warning instead of 10 second.
Pachterballs
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also.
seeing how this isn't um, that 28 days later and zombies actually shamble in this (as opposed to being able to run) ... I honestly don't know how sophie/rick couldn't just outrun the motherfuckers.
Haven't they ever heard of sprinting?
seeing how this isn't um, that 28 days later and zombies actually shamble in this (as opposed to being able to run) ... I honestly don't know how sophie/rick couldn't just outrun the motherfuckers.
Haven't they ever heard of sprinting?
Live Free or Die
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Well that's just a stupid plot. :/ hmm....
FantasticMrFoxdie
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So wait, where the heck did the Shane and Rick standoff happen? On the farm?
Don't you ever question Lori parenting!!!!
Don't you ever question Lori parenting!!!!
Phonomezer
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Poor Lori. She can't keep an eye on her insolent child 24/7, she's been busy during the whole apocalypse having feelings!
a secret-boss
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Shane's death was better than I expected. At least they didn't go by the comic book, and that scene killed two birds with one stone 
HadesGigas
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stupid asian kid refused to go up to the hot chick's room.
he used to be my favorite character, now hes a lame woosie
Well he was able to kill walker Randall in the woods. That was probably supposed to represent him getting over those love-related fears he had that caused him to freeze up at the bar.
He'll probably even get a chance to kill a bunch more next episode considering the end of this one. Maybe even dramatically save Maggey and/or Hershel.
Al-ibn Kermit
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If Shane wanted to make it look like Randall killed Rick, why didn't he actually lead Rick to where Randall was? It would be very hard to explain that Randall shot Rick and that you then chased Randall (who remember, was armed) like half a mile until you managed to break his neck with your goddamn hands. These are the people who magically knew you killed Otis.
And yeah, the fact that Randall and Shane turned so quickly without apparently touching any walkers suggests that the virus is always dormant inside the living. But hold on a second, last season the convoy all the main characters traveled in was attacked by a swarm of walkers at night which killed a few of the characters including Sophia's dad. Her dad's brain wasn't destroyed until the following morning though. So either that's just a plot hole the writers can't go back in time to tie up or Rick was sitting on top of Shane's body for several hours. Either/or. I'm leaning towards Either.
Shane was a great character and I'm sad yet satisfied to see him go. Don't know what they could replace him with, even though this episode was a long time coming. In two consecutive episodes, they killed off the two most morally opposite characters so I'm confident that they think they have some decent replacements written up.
What I also noticed is that it seems like Carl is aware that Rick killed Shane which is pretty ballsy because the writers have always shown Rick and Lori as trying to shelter Carl from the moral ambiguity of the new world. Now it's like his real dad killed his substitute dad, and then he had to blow his brains out. I guess Carl will be a less shitty character from this day forward.
And yeah, the fact that Randall and Shane turned so quickly without apparently touching any walkers suggests that the virus is always dormant inside the living. But hold on a second, last season the convoy all the main characters traveled in was attacked by a swarm of walkers at night which killed a few of the characters including Sophia's dad. Her dad's brain wasn't destroyed until the following morning though. So either that's just a plot hole the writers can't go back in time to tie up or Rick was sitting on top of Shane's body for several hours. Either/or. I'm leaning towards Either.
Shane was a great character and I'm sad yet satisfied to see him go. Don't know what they could replace him with, even though this episode was a long time coming. In two consecutive episodes, they killed off the two most morally opposite characters so I'm confident that they think they have some decent replacements written up.
What I also noticed is that it seems like Carl is aware that Rick killed Shane which is pretty ballsy because the writers have always shown Rick and Lori as trying to shelter Carl from the moral ambiguity of the new world. Now it's like his real dad killed his substitute dad, and then he had to blow his brains out. I guess Carl will be a less shitty character from this day forward.
Jennar at the CDC said people change at different times last season.
HadesGigas
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At the CDC they said the time it takes the virus to bring the dead back to life varies greatly from person to person.
It does seem like kind of a stupid thing for them to wait until morning to put their brains down though. Since at that point they had no idea how the reanimation process worked or how long it'd take.
It does seem like kind of a stupid thing for them to wait until morning to put their brains down though. Since at that point they had no idea how the reanimation process worked or how long it'd take.
so i was on the can and thinking about the show and how to get rid of the biggest problems at camp... lori and carl. i figure that now that everyone is a potential zombie i really want lori to fall down some stairs while pregnant causing the baby to die and zombie its way out of her. in turn she will become a zombie, eat carl and rick will have to put them all down. many high fives will be given at camp that night.
That's not fair, she also has to do her womanly duties like cooking and washing clothes while the men are taking care of Zombie Business. She knows her place.
...Seriously, these writers...
SpeedingUptoStop
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Still can't imagine a show where Lori is still alive and pregnant. It's just not gonna work. We're gonna be in S7/8 asking how she's not even remotely fatigued by the pregnancy. She probably won't even have the kid til season 12 or 15 or something, since the show is strictly linear and has moved maybe a month in two seasons.
Said it before, she is getting an early C-section from Dr. Zombie.
That reminds me... The highway scene with all the corpses chilling in the driver's seat makes even less sense now. Why weren't they zombified? Did all 300 of them suffer a fatal head wound from being stuck in traffic?
Also, she needs some extra time to pester other women about "knowing their place" and "doing women's work."
Possible item mixup...when they showed Glenn walking behind Daryl he looked like he was carrying a car jack not the edged blade he used before. Yet he pulled the Edged blade out of randall's head. I know when Daryl and Glenn were hiding behind trees they swapped a couple items in eachs hands was it just flashlight or more?
GAF explain this to me.
GAF explain this to me.
While they were walking looking badass, Glenn was carrying the edge if I'm not mistaken.
And Lori's parenting is just... I don't know. I understand Rick telling Carl that now he's a grown man and such but c'mon. Does this kid even do anything? When Sophia was alive you could see them do some homework here or there, is he on some sort of studying break? Just give the damn kid something to do. Hopefully with all this wandering at night they'll confuse him with a walker and just put an end to this lame character.
Also, I thought Shane had been scarred by the walkers during the Otis thing (remember the shower scene?). Couldn't it be the virus was just dormant? Does it mean he could have infected Rick during their fight? I don't know, these people bleed for anything.
And Lori's parenting is just... I don't know. I understand Rick telling Carl that now he's a grown man and such but c'mon. Does this kid even do anything? When Sophia was alive you could see them do some homework here or there, is he on some sort of studying break? Just give the damn kid something to do. Hopefully with all this wandering at night they'll confuse him with a walker and just put an end to this lame character.
Also, I thought Shane had been scarred by the walkers during the Otis thing (remember the shower scene?). Couldn't it be the virus was just dormant? Does it mean he could have infected Rick during their fight? I don't know, these people bleed for anything.
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They've all soaked themselves in walker blood so who really knows the extent of the disease.
Phonomezer
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Yeah, I've noticed most of the women just hang around the house cooking or "gathering".
I find Andrea quite refreshing in comparison.
My theory is that the virus either mutated and the CDC guy knew it was going to happen. OR that he told rick that the virus <or whatever> would reach a saturation point. So people early on would have to get bitten or scratched. The amount in the air or water supply was too little at the start for people who died without direct infection from a zombie.
And maybe when the virus is in your system for a while you become immune to scratches or bites.
Maybe that's what freaked out the CDC guy enough that he decided to blow everyone up.
And maybe when the virus is in your system for a while you become immune to scratches or bites.
Maybe that's what freaked out the CDC guy enough that he decided to blow everyone up.
Night_Trekker
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The writers made a point of showing another character--in the same episode--die and come back as a zombie even though he wasn't bitten or scratched. There's no reason to suspect some hidden complexity to Shane's zombification.
That would top anything we've already seen in TWD as the worst plot twist ever.
I've noticed the zombies seem to be more active after dark for whatever reason. (It's cooler?) Remember how all the corpses outside of the CDC were initially still but then got up and attacked as the sun went down? A hoard of zombies did eventually move through the highway scene, too. I think they were probably dead people from the cars and near the roadside, zombified but dormant for whatever reason.
That's because most women are physically weaker than most men. Zombie apocalypse don't give a shit about political correctness.
also bad writing lolz
Lori's unborn child will carry the cure for the zombie virus
So it seems that Shane's demise completely overshadowed the continued poor plotting of the show. I do agree it was quite preposterous for Carl to have found them in that field by himself and then made a perfect shot in the dark. But you know what, let's just overlook that because he had to redeem himself for not killing the walker that got Dale. Such a great character development!
So it seems that Shane's demise completely overshadowed the continued poor plotting of the show. I do agree it was quite preposterous for Carl to have found them in that field by himself and then made a perfect shot in the dark. But you know what, let's just overlook that because he had to redeem himself for not killing the walker that got Dale. Such a great character development!
Night_Trekker
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Gotta love the posts in this thread saying the writing has suddenly gotten a lot better. It hasn't. If anything, it's become even more plot-holey.
But I guess as long as there's more action, the show has improved in quality for some people.
In the show's defense, the writers made a point of showing Carl trying to be more grown-up earlier in the episode by hanging out in the barn's loft and being a lookout for the farm. Considering how close Rick and Shane were to the farm (which itself makes little sense, but that's a whole other issue), and considering the strength of the moonlight, it's believable that Carl could have seen them.
On the other hand, it doesn't make any sense that Carl tagged Shane with a headshot from that far away, or that Carl didn't say, "Dad, look out!" when there was a stealth zombie coming up behind his father, or that, once again, Lori allowed Carl to be out of the farm house in the middle of the night during a zombie apocalypse. But, you know... TWD.
I'm pretty sure I remember some of the zombies running in past episodes. (But even if that's not the case, the script says so!)
But I guess as long as there's more action, the show has improved in quality for some people.
Lori's unborn child will carry the cure for the zombie virus
So it seems that Shane's demise completely overshadowed the continued poor plotting of the show. I do agree it was quite preposterous for Carl to have found them in that field by himself and then made a perfect shot in the dark. But you know what, let's just overlook that because he had to redeem himself for not killing the walker that got Dale. Such a great character development!
In the show's defense, the writers made a point of showing Carl trying to be more grown-up earlier in the episode by hanging out in the barn's loft and being a lookout for the farm. Considering how close Rick and Shane were to the farm (which itself makes little sense, but that's a whole other issue), and considering the strength of the moonlight, it's believable that Carl could have seen them.
On the other hand, it doesn't make any sense that Carl tagged Shane with a headshot from that far away, or that Carl didn't say, "Dad, look out!" when there was a stealth zombie coming up behind his father, or that, once again, Lori allowed Carl to be out of the farm house in the middle of the night during a zombie apocalypse. But, you know... TWD.
I'm pretty sure I remember some of the zombies running in past episodes. (But even if that's not the case, the script says so!)
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