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[Papercuts]

The one thing that brings a smile to my face is the certainty that Mac Walters is sitting wherever completely perplexed that people hate that kid so much.

"Bu...bu....bu... It's a human kid! Everyone loves human kids! Why wouldn't that traumatize a Commander Shepard who may have brutally killed several of his own squad members! I don't get what the complaints are about!"

For why I think this, witness the 1up interview he did before the game's release where he got hammered on the whole Earth-focus of the pre-release stuff.

He's actually indoctrinated and knew everyone would hate the kid, it's an angle to help people push forward into buying the ending DLC.

 

[Patryn]

He's actually indoctrinated and knew everyone would hate the kid, it's an angle to help people push forward into buying the ending DLC.

Nah, I think he's just prone to crappy writing.

I also think he compromised far too much to the idea that they had to bring in "new" fans who hadn't played the previous games. The dream figure really should have been the Virmire victim.

 

[Vamphuntr]

I was more noticing the vignetting around the corners, which proves that Harbinger indoctrinated Hackett and Liara is the true reaper boss – didn't anyone notice how she can take you to dark space at the end before the last fight? You think this is coincidental?

Well she could be a reaper I mean according to Asari's biology:

Asari + Asari = Asari
Asari + Salarian = Asari
Asari + Krogan = Asari
Asari + Human = Asari

So Asari + Reaper = Asari ?

 

[heliosRAzi]

Penny Arcade

Lore Errors and Plot Holes

I don’t know much about this one. I’m just not a big enough ME fan to know what’s supposed to happen when a Mass Relay explodes.

What I do know is that you can let yourself get bogged down by details like how long a Star Destroyer is or how many innocent people Luke murdered when he destroyed the Death Star, or you can try and enjoy it knowing that it all doesn’t match up perfectly.

Um, it's explicitly stated in canon DLC (which is why you are grounded at the beginning of ME3) that destroying a relay is catastrophic.

 

[Rebel Leader]

*Puts kid in duck hunt dog costume*

What about now? Is a punch gonna satisfy?

 

[Karak]

If you actually read Jessica Meridian's twitter you'll find for every supposed vague, cryptic tweet about the ending there's at least one other where she discusses the events as if they're concrete. Like many community managers and the community BioWare has harboured for a long time now, she seems to be urging discussion and speculation, nothing more.

Do we think all the others are the same then? Because her's is one of like 40 that lit up around the same time 2 days ago and all are hinting around the same bits.

 

[Achtius]

Well she could be a reaper I mean according to Asari's biology:

Asari + Asari = Asari
Asari + Salarian = Asari
Asari + Krogan = Asari
Asari + Human = Asari

So Asari + Reaper = Asari ?

For 2 of 3 dream, Liara is always outside your room. I thought she was the one causing it initially XD

 

[Patryn]

Penny Arcade



Um, it's explicitly stated in canon DLC (which is why you are grounded at the beginning of ME3) that destroying a relay is catastrophic.

Gabe has never been one to delve deep into a game's lore if it wasn't a Star Wars game.

 

[DTKT]

Do we think all the others are the same then? Because her's is one of like 40 that lit up around the same time 2 days ago and all are hinting around the same bits.

Show me.

Because right now, the only tweets regarding the ending are from the offical ME twitter and Jessica Merrizan. They are both bad sources for anything concrete.

 

[Cagey]

Penny Arcade



Um, it's explicitly stated in canon DLC (which is why you are grounded at the beginning of ME3) that destroying a relay is catastrophic.

If he didn't play the DLC, like me, he wouldn't know unless he found it in the Codex or the Mass Effect wikias on the internet.

It's still canonical and thus important, but I can understand if he wasn't aware.

 

[Vire]

If you actually read Jessica Meridian's twitter you'll find for every supposed vague, cryptic tweet about the ending there's at least one other where she discusses the events as if they're concrete. Like many community managers and the community BioWare has harboured for a long time now, she seems to be urging discussion and speculation, nothing more.

I agree for the record, just trying to fuel the Indoctrination theory because I'm an asshole.

 

[1stStrike]

I'm impatiently awaiting Angry Joe's review of ME3. Based on his past reviews, I have a feeling it's going to be epic.

 

[Alchemy]

Anyone notice the first shot with the kid is of him trying to deceive you with a toy ship?

He is clearly Harbringer controlling the Normandy to do his bidding. Obviously the Reapers wanted Sheppard to bring all the species together into one area so it would easier to wipe out all the military threats in the galaxy all at once.

And indoctrinate them.

 

[GorillaJu]

I don't think we've properly considered the theory that the fecal matter the Salarians had on their base was reaper feces and carries indoctrinating pathogens. If you travel through a mass relay, as molecules quickly multiply and divide through space would cause a mass effect fecal flux and release the pathogens, which would mean that... Bioware took a big viral dump on Mass Effect.

 

[sdornan]

I figured it out: the Bioware writers themselves were indoctrinated by the Reapers, their own creation, to create a terrible, nonsensical ending to Mass Effect 3!

By Stephen King

 

[Karak]

Show me.

Because right now, the only tweets regarding the ending are from the offical ME twitter and Jessica Merrizan. They are both bad sources for anything concrete.

They are everywhere, look back in our thread. They are shown in numerous places. That's why I am asking because I found it suspicious that they all started around the same time. Like planned but if others think these guys are all lying and actively leading on fans. It just makes me hate Bioware even more. Its needlessly antagonistic.

 

[Rebel Leader]

I'm impatiently awaiting Angry Joe's review of ME3. Based on his past reviews, I have a feeling it's going to be epic.

I think I've seen his previous reviews

 

[bengraven]

If you actually read Jessica Meridian's twitter you'll find for every supposed vague, cryptic tweet about the ending there's at least one other where she discusses the events as if they're concrete. Like many community managers and the community BioWare has harboured for a long time now, she seems to be urging discussion and speculation, nothing more.

Address? Only one person named Jessica Meridian on there and she's definitely not it...I think.

 

[Dresden]

I agree for the record, just trying to fuel the Indoctrination theory because I'm an asshole.

taking the easy way out? for shame

 

[Vire]

taking the easy way out? for shame

FUCK THAT I'M GOING DOWN WITH THIS SHIP.

Indoctrination all the way.

They are everywhere, look back in our thread. They are shown in numerous places. That's why I am asking because I found it suspicious that they all started around the same time. Like planned but if others think these guys are all lying and actively leading on fans. It just makes me hate Bioware even more. Its needlessly antagonistic.

The only one I can think of is the Michael Gamble tweet besides the other tweets from PR people.

Michael Gamble ‏ @GambleMike Close
Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto your copy of me3 forever.

Even then, he could just think we all want MP stuff.

 

[jediyoshi]

Penny Arcade

Breezing over what a relay does when it explodes is more of a plot chasm.

 

[EatChildren]

Do we think all the others are the same then? Because her's is one of like 40 that lit up around the same time 2 days ago and all are hinting around the same bits.

It's a hot point of discussion. Of all things in the game, the ending is what everybody is talking about, not just their personal reactions, but speculating what happened (largely due to how crappy and vague it was). BioWare thrives off a tight nit community that speculates about their game universes. They've harboured a community like this across all their franchises for many years now. Given this is the hot topic, and the deliberately vague end of the game, it is in their best interest to encourage fan speculation, which is really all I see the community managers doing.

What might seem vague and cryptic I see as deliberately allowing fans to speculate without imposing too much upon their opinions and thoughts. Fans say they don't believe something, or they feel a certain way, or they suspect something else might have happened, and it kills discussion for a community manager to go "NO. THAT IS WRONG.".

Keep in mind this is the end of a long standing trilogy. There is no known post-ME3 content coming in any form. For the first time, fans are left truly in the dark.

Address? Only one person named Jessica Meridian on there and she's definitely not it...I think.

@JessicaMerizan

 

[Replicant]

So Asari + Reaper = Asari ?

WAT? No. It's this gorgeous creature:

EDIT: Welp! Didn't realize that there's that big gaping.....hole. Edited just to be safe.

 

[XANDER CAGE]

Armarna Gerbrandt ‏
@JessicaMerizan @Iron_Moses Who's to say the relays are destroyed... I personally don't buy it.

Jessica Meridian

@ArmarnaG @Iron_Moses if college taught me anything, it's to always question what is presented to me. Critical thinking ftw.

If they're going to pull that card, college taught me how to write a coherent story.

 

[Rebel Leader]

FUCK THAT I'M GOING DOWN WITH THIS SHIP.

Indoctrination all the way.

We wanted you to believe it.

It's all going according to plan.

 

[hateradio]

FUCK THAT I'M GOING DOWN WITH THIS SHIP.

Indoctrination all the way.

Indoctrinationists' MO:

If they're going to pull that card, college taught me how to write a coherent story.

Some people graduate without knowing how to use a comma.

 

[Karak]

It's a hot point of discussion. Of all things in the game, the ending is what everybody is talking about, not just their personal reactions, but speculating what happened (largely due to how crappy and vague it was). BioWare thrives off a tight nit community that speculates about their game universes. They've harboured a community like this across all their franchises for many years now. Given this is the hot topic, and the deliberately vague end of the game, it is in their best interest to encourage fan speculation, which is really all I see the community managers doing.

What might seem vague and cryptic I see as deliberately allowing fans to speculate without imposing too much upon their opinions and thoughts. Fans say they don't believe something, or they feel a certain way, or they suspect something else might have happened, and it kills discussion for a community manager to go "NO. THAT IS WRONG.".

Keep in mind this is the end of a long standing trilogy. There is no known post-ME3 content coming in any form. For the first time, fans are left truly in the dark.

Ok well that is going directly against all the hints they are dropping about it not being the end, him not being dead, and blah blah blah

SO I think they are all being needlessly antagonistic. That is a lot of twitters I am going to block. VERY unfortunate that they are outright lying. I was already not buying their games again on day 1. But that has made me completely sour on them as a company.

 

[heliosRAzi]

We wanted you to believe it.

It's all going according to plan.

CONTROL DIRECTLY ASSUMED

If they're going to pull that card, college taught me how to write a coherent story.

Get back to work on that video

 

[sdornan]

Some people graduate without knowing how to use a coma.

Comma.

 

[XANDER CAGE]

CONTROL DIRECTLY ASSUMED



Get back to work on that video

BUT THERE'S SO MUCH STROBING TO MAKE

 

[Tuck]

Penny Arcade



Um, it's explicitly stated in canon DLC (which is why you are grounded at the beginning of ME3) that destroying a relay is catastrophic.

I also don't like his defense of the 'Synthetics killing organics so they don't make synthetics that can kill organics'. The reapers have the power to destroy all synthetics. An easier solution to 'pruning' the galaxy would just be to use that. Problem solved, genocide averted.

 

[Vamphuntr]

WAT? No. It's this gorgeous creature:

This the Asari's husk not the Asari + Reaper offspring.

 

[hateradio]

Ok well that is going directly against all the hints they are dropping about it not being the end.

So I think they are all being needlessly antagonistic. That is a lot of twitters I am going to block. VERY unfortunate that they are outright lying.

They're not lying. They're just not saying anything.

Comma.

I totally meant indoctrination dream . . .

 

[GorillaJu]

Ok well that is going directly against all the hints they are dropping about it not being the end, him not being dead, and blah blah blah

SO I think they are all being needlessly antagonistic. That is a lot of twitters I am going to block. VERY unfortunate that they are outright lying. I was already not buying their games again on day 1. But that has made me completely sour on them as a company.

They aren't lying, they're just being vague to encourage discussion. Right now if everyone takes the ending at face value, there's no discussion except about how much everyone hates it.

By installing some doubt, they keep people guessing and talking

 

[Thagomizer]

I figured it out: the Bioware writers themselves were indoctrinated by the Reapers, their own creation, to create a terrible, nonsensical ending to Mass Effect 3!

By Stephen King

THIS HURTS YOU.

 

[Achtius]

This the Asari's husk not the Asari + Reaper offspring.

That's Liara's bad hair day, when her hair tentacle opens up

 

[Rebel Leader]

CONTROL DIRECTLY ASSUMED



Get back to work on that video

Since when did you think that you were on your own path and not the one we wanted you to walk? >=3

 

[Zomba13]

If he didn't play the DLC, like me, he wouldn't know unless he found it in the Codex or the Mass Effect wikias on the internet.

It's still canonical and thus important, but I can understand if he wasn't aware.

Do none of the Batarian's or anyone mention it? It was mentioned in my game (I did play the DLC though). Just seems weird not to comment on it if you didn't play the DLC because it is an event that happens to every Shep (like surviving ME2). It's the reason the Shep was where he was at the beginning.

 

[Karak]

They're not lying. They're just not saying anything.

Nah thats bullspeak. Throughout the last 3 days there have been a good number that just can't be spun as anything other than lies, or at the very least completely antagonistic or parasitic to fans. I am NOT into companies that treat fans, especially ones already fielding this kind of issue, that way. They have already shown that they don't care about this anyway. So I should have assumed that lying and being like this wouldn't be a stretch for them. Pretty shameful way of treating people.

 

[Achtius]

Do none of the Batarian's or anyone mention it? It was mentioned in my game (I did play the DLC though). Just seems weird not to comment on it if you didn't play the DLC because it is an event that happens to every Shep (like surviving ME2). It's the reason the Shep was where he was at the beginning.

one side mission involves that

 

[heliosRAzi]

BUT THERE'S SO MUCH STROBING TO MAKE

Make sure there are a lot of lens flares

I also don't like his defense of the 'Synthetics killing organics so they don't make synthetics that can kill organics' defense. The reapers have the power to destroy all synthetics. An easier solution to 'pruning' the galaxy would just be to use that. Problem solved, genocide averted.

Some people (not me) have argued that it makes sense because then organics could come up with AIs that are stronger than the Reapers eventually. Some people (not me) have even said that the geth and EDI are not good proof to show that organics and synthetics could live peacefully because they can still rebel in the future. Some people (not me) are not thinking right.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Penny Arcade

Um, it's explicitly stated in canon DLC (which is why you are grounded at the beginning of ME3) that destroying a relay is catastrophic.

Yeah, I like this:

I’m just not a big enough ME fan to know what’s supposed to happen when a Mass Relay explodes.

His argument is invalid.

 

[Zomba13]

WAT? No. It's this gorgeous creature:

EDIT: Welp! Didn't realize that there's that big gaping.....hole. Edited just to be safe.

Easily the most terrifying enemies in the game. So scary looking

 

[EatChildren]

Ok well that is going directly against all the hints they are dropping about it not being the end, him not being dead, and blah blah blah

This is what I mean when I say they're encouraging speculation for speculation's sake;

@CapitanoMal Because closing Shepard's story means everything has to be closed?

@MichaelJCZack @superfuturexo That's what I mean. It's more than just completing a game. It's closing a chapter of our lives.

@mike12324 what's going on when you enter the beacon?

@WillPhillips01 1) the whole game is "the end" that closed chapters as it progressed 2) The implications of the end are openers not closers.

@WillPhillips01 @carbonmotion @EpochSentinel @Derek_McL what about the implications of your choices afterward?

@Arztaak when I first played, I saw it differently, but I can definitely appreciate your opinion. You don't think Shep did the impossible?

@superfuturexo I am having a dialogue with my Twitter friends and followers. No hints, just encouraging people to think past gut reactions.

@JonRyan13 yeah I know some people don't like that I think they're cool, but BioWare fans are creative and intelligent. So many ideas!

Though these are all open to interpretation, mine says this is less about implying there's more to come in a very specific way, and more about implying the universe has a future that is open to speculation until we find out.

 

[hateradio]

Nah thats bullspeak. Throughout the last 3 days there have been a good number that just can't be spun as anything other than lies, or at the very least completely antagonistic or parasitic to fans. I am NOT into companies that treat fans, especially ones already fielding this kind of issue, that way.

@karak I'm sorry you feel like that. Don't forget to get the @masseffect3 DLC next month!

 

[Achtius]

WAT? No. It's this gorgeous creature:

[I MG]http://i.imgur.com/FR2Ch.jpg[/IMG]

EDIT: Welp! Didn't realize that there's that big gaping.....hole. Edited just to be safe.

You forgot the glowing nipples

edit: and i think that is a treasure trail and not a hole

Spoiler

and what you find is anything but

 

[Karak]

@karak I'm sorry you feel like that. Don't forget to get the @masseffect3 DLC next month!

Hahaha so fucking true. PERFECT response! But I am indeed trully done with them. Disrespect for the game ending and such was bad enough but needlessly trolling fans is beyond even my acceptance level. Strange to realize I don't ever want their games again..>Damn.

 

[heliosRAzi]

Since when did you think that you were on your own path and not the one we wanted you to walk? >=3

Ever since I tried to shoot the little kid in the head.




You know, I fear that the FBI is going to comb through this thread and think we all want to kill little kids.

 

[Replicant]

You forgot the glowing nipples

Those are not glowing nips. Those are the Christmas lights/decorations covering the real nipples.

 

[Dresden]

You know, I fear that the FBI is going to comb through this thread and think we all want to kill little kids.

It's okay, they're too busy monitoring the anime thread.