Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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How is that even possible? Is Hawke INDOCTRINATED as well?

Also, the best thing to come out of this thread is EDI camel toe, surely. Stay classy, BioWare.

DA2's ending is not worse then ME3's it is one ending, but sets up an awesome premise if they execute it well the game could be amazing.

Nope Marauder Shields is the best thing I now lol every time I see one in multiplayer.
 
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*sigh* its not about "happy endings" its about the closure. I wouldn't mind if Shepard died but I just wanted to see the aftermath of the reapers being destroyed as a result of whatever Shepard and Anderson did. I just don't get people that are happy with the ending but then again why am I surprised? Most people either don't give a flying fuck about stories in their games or they are used to shitty storytelling that it doesn't matter much to them.

Ah well, I'm not holding my breath for the "Ending DLC" to come out any time soon.
 
Actually, now that I think about it I wonder if synthesis is outright THE best ending in regards to the galactic state? What that actually did is way too ambiguous, but it may well mean everyone needs less resources to live, or can live longer and thus survive a prolonged travel back to their original planets. Former's probably more plausible, and likely the quantity of people brought along to fight is counterbalanced by the fact the Earth was practically depopulated anyway.

ALSO: guys? PA news posts STILL haven't gone up, they could well be only targetting people who wanted a happy ending. Or they play off the happy ending angle because it leads to better comedy.
 
I don't think it makes sense for it to destroy the reapers but leave the relays alone. The galaxy will just have to man up and build their own relay network.

The galaxy has no fucking clue how to build relays. The Protheans figured out how to do it on a small scale, but all that data on Illos got destroyed.
 
that's a very rude post

Anger phase, clearly

I could do much, much worse.

The fight is completely reliant on luck. There is no skill involved.

Luck that he doesn't focus on you all the time. Luck that he doesn't shoot when your shields are down. Luck that the troops bunch up and die quickly. Luck that the AI gets overwhelmed and he/troops freeze in place for a few seconds. Luck that your squad's powers actually hit an enemy instead of the fucking floor.

It's a terrible, horribly designed fight.

I've tried 10+ times and always die during round 3 with the phantoms. I'll get to a point after 1 phantom is dead and suddenly my shields are gone out of nowhere, then my health immediately drops to 1% and I can't do anything. No one is near me, I have no idea what the fuck is happening. Shields just drop and it's insta-death.

Try to heal? Die.
Take cover? Die.
Roll? Die.
 
Actually, now that I think about it I wonder if synthesis is outright THE best ending in regards to the galactic state? What that actually did is way too ambiguous, but it may well mean everyone needs less resources to live, or can live longer and thus survive a prolonged travel back to their original planets. Former's probably more plausible, and likely the quantity of people brought along to fight is counterbalanced by the fact the Earth was practically depopulated anyway.

But the system was also totally mined out when it comes to resources. Remember, in ME2 if you scanned all the planets in the solar system, they were all Depleted.
 
You know, I just thought of an easy way to fix THE BOY. They should have replaced the kid with either Kaidan or Ashley, depending on who is dead. At least then Shepard's PTSD would make some sense.

And the indoctrination really could go back to ME1 at that point. :p
 
Hell, I would have accepted this mental institution, thorazine induced ending if I could have just joined Cerberus again.

The Illusive Man's point of view is still better than anyone else's combined, even if it is somekind of thinly veiled allusion to...hell, whatever it's supposed to be. He's just cool.
 
Looking over our argument I just realized how vital it is to know what the child-ghost thing was. Did he ever state he was an AI or was that part of LOTS OF SPECULATION. Essentially there's only two options, AI/Synthetic (logically flawed) or Organic/Mystical Being (logically consistent, but stupid). I don't feel like watching the end again, does anyone know what the child says about his own state?

He said he's the leader of the reapers.

It's been said that he is not allowed to start the reaper invasion (probably a failsafe)

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Well, I mean the Reapers were pretty obviously well shackled in that they never decided to revolt and say fuck you starchild we are going to eat ALL organic life. And the ending could still technically make sense in that they don't exactly have baby monitors. They just stick their heads in every 50,000 years, scope the place out. I guess they think it is possible that synthetics might wipe out all the organics if they wait any longer than that.

You would think the whole Geth thing would have brought them in 300 years ago, though, which kind of indicates that their plan sucked. What was Sovereign doing? Just chilling? With Geth efficiency it seems like the Geth could have destroyed life in that time if they had really tried. The fact that they didn't kind of negates the conclusions that starchild makes.

Especially since you ally with them, and then fuck them just after you have given them true consciousness.

Actually, yes. In the first ME book a bunch of people found an old starship and Saren was like Yo what? Lemme see dat shit. And he goes over and boards it and that as they say, was that.
 
But the system was probably also totally mined out when it comes to resources.
FTL may be good ENOUGH for within the local cluster, if there's more stuff just a stones throw outside of the Sol System. Especially if they can refuel over there.
 
Hell, I would have accepted this mental institution, thorazine induced ending if I could have just joined Cerberus again.

The Illusive Man's point of view is still better than anyone else's combined, even if it is somekind of thinly veiled allusion to...hell, whatever. He's just cool.

Fucker was responsible for the death of my squad on Akuze. I would have rather put a bullet in his head the first chance I got.
 
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Who's the stupid shit-sucking cunt fuck that designed this fucking anime ballerina asshole!? I'm gonna sodomize them with a splintery baseball bat wrapped in barbed-wire if I ever meet them.

I have never seen something so unfair/unbalanced in my life. A fucking enemy that cannot be stopped, constantly running AND SHOOTING at you ALL THE FUCKING TIME! Shields are down in 0.10sec and health in 0.01 after that. Stupid fucking design to have an enemy that never gets stunned no matter what you do to him.

And you have to fight his fucking butt-buddies when his bitch ass has to take a breather, and of course, they all focus on you because your 2 other teammates don't exist. Then in the 3rd round you have to fight his 2 cunts that move just like he does, constantly advancing on your position and never flinching when shot.

Real genius decision to put every fucking action on the X button, by the way!

Stand and fight? Die.
Take cover? Die.
Climb out of cover to avoid a grenade? Die.
Do anything? Die.
Bioware? DIE DIE DIE FUCKING CUNTS!

Yes. I mad. I very mad.

You sound angry. Please have a seat there.
 
The alliances don't matter because galactic unity has been destroyed. It'll take decades to get from one system to another, and the entire fleet you brought is now trapped on Earth, destined to die horrible deaths from starvation.

There are power vacuums everywhere, as all the leaders on the Citadel are either dead or on Earth, along with the Primarch and Wrex. Think about the chaos Tuchanka must be in.

The Quarians and Turians can't eat Earth food, so they're almost certainly destined to die. In addition, you've denied Rannoch the resources of the Quarian ships that went to Earth, so who knows how well that project will go.

Thessia and Palavan are in ruins, and may lack the materials to rebuild. All the major planets that are dependent on their colonies will probably be facing shortages in both food and materials. Billions will die.

Pretty much the only people in a decent position are probably the colonies, but they'll likely have to face increased piracy as people try to get what they need.

No reason to think that the quarian and turians would just starve to death. They would probably be able to synthesize something from earth materials just to keep going. Like, quarian bread or something like that xD. Just enough to keep them from dying.

Even if they're cutoff from other planets now, it doesn't mean it would be forever. Centuries may pass but just by remaining on earth it opens up the possibility of the alliances to still exist in the future. Or maybe even a joint culture of all those species.

I wouldn't be surprised if some sort of new war is instigated where the various races fight to find new territory if they can't return to their own planets in the near future.

Or Earth is used as the new Citadel, with the races who still remain near Earth getting their own chunk of land on the planet. Earth turns in to a beacon of galactic unity because of what happened, etc. Then everyone works together to slowly but surely 'recapture' or 'rediscover' new planets and places to settle in an outwards and gradual motion.

So yeah, whichever fleets you may have gotten to help Earth do matter.

At the end, the state of the galactic civilization sucks. This was a war of galactic proportions. It stands to reason that the sacrifices made are that high.
 
Other titles considered for the games before Zeshuk came up with "Mass Effect" (codename during development was "SFX"):

Space Age
Element Zero
Threshold
Epsilon Effect
 
Actually, yes. In the first ME book a bunch of people found an old starship and Saren was like Yo what? Lemme see dat shit. And he goes over and boards it and that as they say, was that.

Sovereign was plotting. He first tried to use the Rachni, but that didn't work out so well. Then he kind of sat around for about 1500 years, before deciding to use Saren.
 
BTW, I wonder what the races would do with the Reaper remains. I can't remember but did they explode in to nothing (especially the ones on Earth), or did they just blow up somewhat but still remain salvageable?

Would they be able to use any of the remains or technology? They must be able to if Cerberus was able to use the Proto Reaper's remains. Could be some interesting results.
 
Fucker was responsible for the death of my squad on Akuze. I would have rather put a bullet in his head the first chance I got.

Yeah, but imagine him finally assuming direct control over the reapers, turning into somekind of gigantic Reaper, ultraman mech thing and fighting alongside humanity against all aliens.

America fuck yeah would be playing, too.

You know it would be epic.
 
Hell, I would have accepted this mental institution, thorazine induced ending if I could have just joined Cerberus again.

The Illusive Man's point of view is still better than anyone else's combined, even if it is somekind of thinly veiled allusion to...hell, whatever it's supposed to be. He's just cool.

Indoctrination detected!!!
 
No reason to think that the quarian and turians would just starve to death. They would probably be able to synthesize something from earth materials just to keep going. Like, quarian bread or something like that xD. Just enough to keep them from dying.

Even if they're cutoff from other planets now, it doesn't mean it would be forever. Centuries may pass but just by remaining on earth it opens up the possibility of the alliances to still exist in the future. Or maybe even a joint culture of all those species.

Synthesize how? They're silicon-based lifeforms. Everything on Earth is carbon-based. Unless you think they have some sort of replicators which ME has never indicated ever existed?
 
BTW, I wonder what the races would do with the Reaper remains. I can't remember but did they explode in to nothing (especially the ones on Earth), or did they just blow up somewhat but still remain salvageable?

Would they be able to use any of the remains or technology? They must be able to if Cerberus was able to use the Proto Reaper's remains. Could be some interesting results.

In the video the ones on the ground just shut down in the destroy ending. The Thanix weapons everybody use in the universe now are all derived from Sovereign so yah they will probably use them to make neat stuff.
 
But they do know about mass effect fields. That's what biotic powers are. The foundation of that tech exists.

They haven't learned in the thousands of years since they found the citadel. What's going to make them learn before they starve to death from being stuck on their mined out home systems?
 
Hell, I would have accepted this mental institution, thorazine induced ending if I could have just joined Cerberus again.

The Illusive Man's point of view is still better than anyone else's combined, even if it is somekind of thinly veiled allusion to...hell, whatever it's supposed to be. He's just cool.

The Illusive Man's character gets ruined beyond repair (a process started in shitty side-story comics) by the time you hit the Cerberus base. They go out of their way to make out Cerberus and Shepard's relationship to be a sham from the beginning.

They could have made it so that the Illusive Man was only indirectly overseeing Miranda's father and made him the real Cerberus villain (who would only be supplanted by TIM if you couldn't sway him to your side and change his role in the ending). However that seems a bit too high concept for ME.
 
In the video the ones on the ground just shut down in the destroy ending. The Thanix weapons everybody use in the universe now are all derived from Sovereign so yah they will probably use them to make neat stuff.

Wouldn't the Thanix cannons explode since they are made from Reaper technology?
 
I could do much, much worse.

The fight is completely reliant on luck. There is no skill involved.

Luck that he doesn't focus on you all the time. Luck that he doesn't shoot when your shields are down. Luck that the troops bunch up and die quickly. Luck that the AI gets overwhelmed and he/troops freeze in place for a few seconds. Luck that your squad's powers actually hit an enemy instead of the fucking floor.

It's a terrible, horribly designed fight.

I've tried 10+ times and always die during round 3 with the phantoms. I'll get to a point after 1 phantom is dead and suddenly my shields are gone out of nowhere, then my health immediately drops to 1% and I can't do anything. No one is near me, I have no idea what the fuck is happening. Shields just drop and it's insta-death.

Try to heal? Die.
Take cover? Die.
Roll? Die.
THIS HURTS YOU

Is DIRECT INTERVENTION NECESSARY?
 

Turians and Quarians are silicon based humanoid and Volus are ammonia based. In other words their atoms have silicon or ammonia wherever we would have carbon. Different planets evolve differently this is a common theory among scientist that life on other planets does not necessarily have to be carbon based.
 
I could do much, much worse.

The fight is completely reliant on luck. There is no skill involved.

Luck that he doesn't focus on you all the time. Luck that he doesn't shoot when your shields are down. Luck that the troops bunch up and die quickly. Luck that the AI gets overwhelmed and he/troops freeze in place for a few seconds. Luck that your squad's powers actually hit an enemy instead of the fucking floor.

It's a terrible, horribly designed fight.

I've tried 10+ times and always die during round 3 with the phantoms. I'll get to a point after 1 phantom is dead and suddenly my shields are gone out of nowhere, then my health immediately drops to 1% and I can't do anything. No one is near me, I have no idea what the fuck is happening. Shields just drop and it's insta-death.

Try to heal? Die.
Take cover? Die.
Roll? Die.

This fight is a terrible piece of shit but even on insanity it is not that hard. Just keep pausing and hitting him with all the powers. Use Vega and spam his grenades. Boom done. I used the matlock with all the +10 weapon damage gear.
 
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Who's the stupid shit-sucking cunt fuck that designed this fucking anime ballerina asshole!? I'm gonna sodomize them with a splintery baseball bat wrapped in barbed-wire if I ever meet them.

I have never seen something so unfair/unbalanced in my life. A fucking enemy that cannot be stopped, constantly running AND SHOOTING at you ALL THE FUCKING TIME! Shields are down in 0.10sec and health in 0.01 after that. Stupid fucking design to have an enemy that never gets stunned no matter what you do to him.

And you have to fight his fucking butt-buddies when his bitch ass has to take a breather, and of course, they all focus on you because your 2 other teammates don't exist. Then in the 3rd round you have to fight his 2 cunts that move just like he does, constantly advancing on your position and never flinching when shot.

Real genius decision to put every fucking action on the X button, by the way!

Stand and fight? Die.
Take cover? Die.
Climb out of cover to avoid a grenade? Die.
Do anything? Die.
Bioware? DIE DIE DIE FUCKING CUNTS!

Yes. I mad. I very mad.

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I could do much, much worse.

The fight is completely reliant on luck. There is no skill involved.

Luck that he doesn't focus on you all the time. Luck that he doesn't shoot when your shields are down. Luck that the troops bunch up and die quickly. Luck that the AI gets overwhelmed and he/troops freeze in place for a few seconds. Luck that your squad's powers actually hit an enemy instead of the fucking floor.

It's a terrible, horribly designed fight.

I've tried 10+ times and always die during round 3 with the phantoms. I'll get to a point after 1 phantom is dead and suddenly my shields are gone out of nowhere, then my health immediately drops to 1% and I can't do anything. No one is near me, I have no idea what the fuck is happening. Shields just drop and it's insta-death.

Try to heal? Die.
Take cover? Die.
Roll? Die.

Just wait till you get to the fight with several Banshees and Marauders, it's absolute bullshit. I understand that BioWare wanted there to be things that keep you moving and out of cover but it doesn't work when leaving cover means instant death.
 
Just wait till you get to the fight with several Banshees and Marauders, it's absolute bullshit. I understand that BioWare wanted there to be things that keep you moving and out of cover but it doesn't work when leaving cover means instant death.
Hardest part on insanity was mars when you get off the tram.
 
Synthesize how? They're silicon-based lifeforms. Everything on Earth is carbon-based. Unless you think they have some sort of replicators which ME has never indicated ever existed?
It's not like raw elements don't exist on Earth. They don't have to make a quarian chicken, just a serum or something (clearly I'm not a medic nor a biologist) just to stay alive. Kinda like people in a coma are nourished via IV treatment.

Also, I just remembered the existence of comm buoys. Were those destroyed also? We don't know. Maybe communications across the galaxy are still possible.
 
So has more gamers beat the game and join the unrest or we had reached the nerdrage singularity at the revealation of "LOT OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE"?
 
Wouldn't the Thanix cannons explode since they are made from Reaper technology?

They use the same basic mass effect tech as other starship cannons in ME, the key difference is that instead of shooting a solid slug, they shoot molten metal. This is why it rips through shields since the shields are kinetic barriers, not thermal barriers.
 
THIS HURTS YOU

Is DIRECT INTERVENTION NECESSARY?

If that means you'll come over and beat this stupid fucker before I put a hole in my TV... then yes, direct intervention is very fucking necessary.

Still fighting him. Nothing works. I'll do good and then bam -- insta-death out of nowhere. I would seriously break the nose of every fucking idiot that OK'd this fight if given the chance.

It's inexcusable.
 
So has more gamers beat the game and join the unrest or we had reached the nerdrage singularity at the revealation of "LOT OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE"?

Our arm...err group swells in numbers every day!

This thread is only like 800 posts from passing the OT now lol
 
My issue with the ending of the Mass Effect trilogy is that it was not executed well (Joker was at the Battle for Earth, no way he and the crew magically ended up in the relay) and they didn't lay any groundwork for what comes next.

If they had people in the game talking about the need to end their reliance on the mass relays and showing ways to do it, that at least would provide the foundation for the future of the Mass Effect universe. Right now the galaxy is just screwed. It is as if someone magically got rid of all planes, boats and highways, society would be in a pile of hurt if our transportation systems were destroyed like that.

I love the depth of the universe BioWare created with Mass Effect and for them to say that any new games would take place before or during the war makes me wonder what the future holds for that universe.
 
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