I think any possibility of this being simple incompetence is now completely gone. I would wait for a neutral party to listen to the 911 tapes, but it lines up exactly with what the witnesses said.
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I think any possibility of this being simple incompetence is now completely gone. I would wait for a neutral party to listen to the 911 tapes, but it lines up exactly with what the witnesses said.
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and the asshole is still walking free.
what the fucking is going on with that police department?
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If what that quote says is true, this is not incompetence. No way, if you can really hear two shots, and the kid crying in between the shots, there was some coverup attempts by the police.
America in 2012. Jesus Christ.
Edit: Just read the huffington post article and it seems like Trayvon was actually fleeing. Can't make this shit up people.
Edit2: if you wanna listen the 911 tapes are here. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/
Edit3: Zimmerman on 911 tape: "He (trayvon) ran"
Edit: Just read the huffington post article and it seems like Trayvon was actually fleeing. Can't make this shit up people.
Edit2: if you wanna listen the 911 tapes are here. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/
Edit3: Zimmerman on 911 tape: "He (trayvon) ran"
GhettoGamer
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Man this shit makes my blood boil, if they dont arrest this guy.......
TestOfTide
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So why aren't people bombarding his facebook and the police facebook with this shit.
Or at the very least try and contact organizations like the today show. They would love to cover something like this.
Or at the very least try and contact organizations like the today show. They would love to cover something like this.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/ the 911 tape can be heard here.
Angry Fork
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What's currently going on regarding this case? Meaning what's the official statements from police, the family etc. and has the guy who shot the kid spoken out yet?
Ugh @ "up to no good" on the 911 call. Why is it taking so long for actual updates? I want to see some closure on this or just something substantial. What's the official reason why the guy hasn't been arrested yet?
Ugh @ "up to no good" on the 911 call. Why is it taking so long for actual updates? I want to see some closure on this or just something substantial. What's the official reason why the guy hasn't been arrested yet?
....i heard the screams of help...heart breaking.
A warning shot to the heart, apparently.
Ghost_Protocol
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Public execution. It's the only way.
For those who listened to the tape, is it obvious that the boy is the one screaming?
For those who listened to the tape, is it obvious that the boy is the one screaming?
zimmerman claimed self defense and the cops took his word for it
Dreams-Visions
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shit.
in just listening to Zimmerman's voice, the person screaming was definitely the teenager. I wasn't sure when I heard the 911 call from the woman with the screaming in the background, but listening to Zimmerman's voice from the police call removed all doubt.
yes...yes it is
Dreams-Visions
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I expect a police chief resignation in the next 5 days. Nothing less is acceptable.
Leona Lewis
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I'm just dumbfounded. It's been almost a month, nothing but mounting evidence against Zimmerman, yet the guy's free to roam about while a kid is dead.
What the fuck is going on? I can't even imagine what the parents are feeling, it's like an added insult.
What the fuck is going on? I can't even imagine what the parents are feeling, it's like an added insult.
Foxy Fox 39
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Yup. I want Lee out. Maybe more officers. This is ridiculous and I can't believe that they're getting away with this.
I can't either knowing what's on them.
Mortrialus
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soundahfekz
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I don't expect, but I'd like corruption charges on anyone shown to have assisted in covering this shit up. I'm tired of bad police officers never seeing any meaningful consequences for their actions beyond a lost job. This shit is reprehensible.
Bumblebeetuna
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So Zimmerman is basically a wanna be rent a cop who confronts someone for no reason which results in a fight. A fight that even though he outweighs the kid by over 100 pounds, Zimmerman is losing. So naturally being the piece of shit he is, his only recourse was to shoot the kid dead and claim self defense. I wonder what happened in the backyard that made a fight begin. Logic would tell me Zimmerman probably tried to subdue Martin and keep him there until police arrived.
I don't see how anyone can look over the information of this story and not just be extremely pissed.
The police pretty much lied about every single thing
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/16/2697604/trayvon-martins-parents-criss.html
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/16/2697604/trayvon-martins-parents-criss.html
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I don't even believe zimmerman was bloodied at this point.
The whole police department needs to be taken to town on this. Look at the kid. The kid is undersized for his age, every single thing about this case indicates the kid could not have had the shooter feeling for his life yet somehow there is no probable cause. Shit is fucking ludicrous. I don't want to hear the 911 tapes as they are only going to get me more upset. I wouldn't even be surprised if the dude has left the country or he fucking should now if he wants freedom.
Foxy Fox 39
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Well we don't know how the fight really went. The verdict is still out on that. It's possible the kid got on top of him at one point. But the way some of the witnesses tell it Zimmerman had him pinned as well.
The 911 Calls make it sound like Zimmerman was not in enough trouble to shoot the kid, since the kid cries for help for a good while before Zimmerman shoots him. Someone calling for help is not going to be randomly beating on the guy.
More like some low-level sacrificial lamb will take the fall for an "administrative mistake" and all the rich white middle aged men involved will come out fine.
Come on, you know how this country works.
Chances are he wan't losing. Look at the picture of the kid. Zimmerman is a full grown adult who had 100 pounds on him. If he was losing then he is the saddest person on the planet which actually would explain why he would feel the need to carry a concealed weapon because he is too chicken shit without it.
Every witness so far says the exact opposite of what Zimmerman said
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/16/2697604_p2/trayvon-martins-parents-criss.html
FUCK THIS SHIT. FUCK IT!
It really pisses me off that people in a position of authority would willingly do something as disgusting as this. And not just one or two, but the whole force kept quiet about this? Fuck this shit.
Edit: ^^And I'm not going outside? He had to know he could have calmed Zimmerman down though, just by being a witness?
Dreams-Visions
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Based on the amount of time the kid spent screaming, it plays out in my mind as follows:
1.) The kid tries to get Zimmerman (stranger who perhaps grabbed him for no reason, in the dark behind some houses?!?) off of him while screaming for help. Despite being outweighed by 100lbs, he at some point during what ultimately became the end of the conflict, he finally gains the upper hand in some way (by getting on top of him? a free hand to swing back with?), to which Zimmerman responded to by pulling his gun out and shooting him fatally.
2.) Zimmerman had him in some sort of a painful hold, resulting in the screams and pleas for help...after breaking out of the hold and gaining some sort of advantage in the fight, he may have gone to hit Zimmerman after which Zimmerman shoots him.
starting to feel the same way. SHOW ME THE FUCKING PICTURES.
GhettoGamer
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I dont think so, there is no way in hell the people involved in this cover-up is getting off. They cant blame a clerical error, or a rookie cop, there is to much evidence of foul play. The lawsuit on the police department is going to set them back so far, that the higher ups are gonna want some heads rolling
Dreams-Visions
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gonna shed some tears now.
yep. there they go.
I hope the state or feds get involved.
Here's something good for Eric Holder to get his hands in.
I wouldn't go outside either if I heard somebody screaming for help quieted by a gun.
This shit is sick.
Foxy Fox 39
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Nah. Happens a lot. A whole department of dudes and one main guy makes a mistake and takes the fall for the rest. That guy will probably be Lee but we know some of them helped. Like the officer who corrected the witnesses statement.
But it isn't even about that. This is what made all the devil's advocate posters so hated in here because people are simply wanting an arrest as it has been shown that given a shooting in Florida, you can arrest if there is probable cause. There has been probable cause from day one yet nothing has been done. Justice comes after in the courtroom but as of right now, there is overwhelming evidence to question Zimmerman and he should be getting questioned while under arrest.
Dreams-Visions
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I'm not looking to get myself killed. You don't know WHO is out there or why.
or, Abu Ghraib.
True.
Bumblebeetuna
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Well apparently Zimmerman was wearing red and the witnesses saw someone in white on top so I assumed Zimmerman was getting his ass kicked.
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