Winter 2012 Anime Thread 2.22: You Can (Not) Outpost Cajunator

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Steroyd

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Both aren't spectacular to be honest. Decent enough for a few laughs but not Nichijou or Daily Lives of High School Boys level.

Nichijou had a level? lol

You think Seitokai Yakuindomo/Seitokai no Ichizon is superior to Nichijou?

Nichijou was far far too erratic between funny and extremely boring, and when it was funny it relied far too heavily on visual gags which is Kyoani's forte so that's no surprise. SYD/SnI at the very least doesn't go between both extremes and levels out all the way through.
 

frostbyte

Member
Nichijou had a level? lol

Nichijou was far far too erratic between funny and extremely boring, and when it was funny it relied far too heavily on visual gags which is Kyoani's forte so that's no surprise. SYD/SnI at the very least doesn't go between both extremes and levels out all the way through.

Personally, I thought the 'boring' sequences were part of its overall charm and true to its title 'Everyday/Regular Life". The 'Slice of Life' vignettes are supposed to be boring but that's everyday life. I can see where you're coming from though.

And what's wrong with emphasis on visual gags? I'd rather have it than over-saturation of the same jokes.
 

Westlo

Member
Shin Mazinger Z 17-18

Uh, holy shit. I was having doubts after the Germany stuff but
jumping to the past last day of Mycenaean civilization and touching on the Zeus story
was great. Giving Ashura even more spotlight has only paid off. I thought him tragic before but
to be shunned by memories of its past selves? That's just cold. Its worsening identity crisis is rather sad too. I'm torn between the notion of informing a potential viewer just how much of the show is its story versus letting them be surprised on their own.
I liked its character tic of requesting and being appreciative of the mechanical beasts was touched upon here. I'd wondered why since the first time I caught it.
Zeus' rocket punch deserves an amazing wtf too.

I really feel like watching this series again after reading your impressions of it.. one day maybe.. but yeah I also had a lot of doubts with the Germany stuff in the beginning but it really delivered in the end.

And dat rocket punch by Zeus, just awesome shit lol.
 

Steroyd

Member
Personally, I thought the 'boring' sequences were part of its overall charm and true to its title 'Everyday/Regular Life". The 'Slice of Life' vignettes are supposed to be boring but that's everyday life. I can see where you're coming from though.

And what's wrong with emphasis on visual gags? I'd rather have it than over-saturation of the same jokes.

Nothing wrong with the visual gags, it's just that when Nichijou tried to move away from that, it fell flat on it's face.

If they re-edit the whole thing with all of the visual gags it'd be much better.
 

Westlo

Member
Guys, can you recommend some good anime soundtracks, so I can test out these new headphones?

Gundam SEED Destiny, no joke, great soundtrack. The score + trolling Shinn fans about Kira replacing him eventually when it was airing was the only redeeming things about Destiny.
 

Ultimadrago

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Are you me? :p

I like SYD too but it recycles it's jokes a bit too much. Although not as much as Baka to Test or Ika Musume, half due to its virtue of having an always expanding cast. I still enjoy all of them though. Nichijou's just on a different level.

Nakama GET!

I knew I liked you, frostbyte! A man with an eye for excellence!
 

Articalys

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Rinne no Lagrange 11

Exciting episode. Can't wait for the season finale next week; I already feel like it's going to be a long wait until summer.

Triple blossoming can't be a good thing, right? Maybe? Damn cliffhangers...
 

Steroyd

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Hunter x Hunter - 23

Looks like they're charging through quickly again, which is funny because it was going at a measured pace before.

Symphogear - 11

What is up with villains and the moon?

Knight of the Area - 11

What is with the counsellors, the heart thing is bad enough but now it seems like council lady is trying to make a case study of Kakeru or something.

Zero no Tsukaima F - 11

Excruciatingly painfull love-love ending incoming.

Ozma - 01

Something about sand whales and a damsel in distress rather standard first episode overall.

Now and Then, Here and There - 01

a.k.a Time to get some 12/13 episoders out of my backlog.

There better be a good reason why the girl can barely speak, and we have a main protag who just charges through things with little thought, oh joy.
 

Steroyd

Member
Now and Then, Here and There - 02

Steroyd does not approve of cat abuse. And the king is crazy all his ramblings because he wants
water
lolwut?
 

Lain

Member
You just can't make that kind of ridiculous statement without unpacking what you mean.

It's always good to see some over the top discomfort for the whole cast of a show. Usually you have a little bit of drama while people are having a good time, but here? Everyone is going through hard times, be it for a reason or another they're all suffering some kind of mental anguish until they break down and then
BRS comes along and take their memories away!
making me, the viewer, always feel a kind of sad feeling no matter if a character is doing something positive or negative
like Yomi deleting Mato's directory from her phone or Yomi remembering about Mato.
If all this suffering doesn't make for a good show, then what does?!
 

Envelope

sealed with a kiss
Counterevolutionary Aspect Ratio Utena 1

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In all it's mostly unstretched glory - damn anamorphicity doesn't play nice with screenshots


NTR, yuri, a mysterious Student Council, roses, dueling... this series is off to a great start.

Utena is a great protagonist, it's as if they took one of the awesome side characters who populate a host of dull shows and made her the main character. She's strong willed, proactive, doesn't yell "EEEEEEEEHHHH??" every time something she doesn't understand happens.

Very little background is given about any of the characters in the first episode, but there is the pseudo-flashback for Utena. She's obviously not really a princess, but someone did give her the rose ring - and he was princelike enough to convince Utena she wants to be a prince and score hot girls, too. I'm confused as to how she thinks she can be a prince while adamantly denying she's like a guy in any way, I'm looking forward to seeing how this all turns out. She certainly is able to capture the hearts of all the girls in the school, especially when she's rocking that uniform.
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Interestingly, not a single male in the school wears anything even approaching her uniform, I wonder where she got it from.
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Utena's friend, Wakaba, is actually the first main character shown, as she wonders where her boyfriend has gone off to. But it isn't actually a boyfriend; it's Utena herself. So many alarms are already ringing, but I'm sure her confession of absolute love to Utena is entirely platonic, right?


Utena, after singlehandedly defeating the men's basketball team,
goes off to spy on Anthy, who is busy getting beat up by one of the idols of the school, the Vice-President of the Student Council, Saionji. However, the red-headed President himself shows up to stop the beatdown, and some rather strange terms are used, like the Rose Bride.
Utena is slightly puzzled by all this, but goes on to meet up again with her friend, Wakaba. Wakaba teases Utena a little, and reveals that she also is one of Saionji's fans.

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In fact, she's such a big fan that she wrote an extremely poetic love letter to him. Somehow, though, the letter found it's way to the bulletin board, where a large group of students gather to mock whoever was foolish enough to write such a letter. Once again, Utena is a bit more manly than she thinks she is, and tells each of the mockers how pathetic they really are.

So up until now, this has been a relatively normal show, if very stylized.

I'm usually not a fan of 90's character designs, but here, they really work well in the slightly fantastical design of the show.

About the technical aspects of the show itself, I for some reason had always thought that Utena was a very low budget, scraped out by a few animators in their basements kind of show, so I was really surprised by the quality of the animation and music.


However, back to the episode itself. After teasing it's normality for the first half of the episode, Utena plunges into the depths of stylized symbolism, where you never quite know what is real and what isn't. You have to constantly ask yourself how much you should infer from the symbolism, whether it's just window dressing like the average SHAFT production, or whether there really is substance behind it. I personally usually just sit back and enjoy the ride without worrying about stuff like that, though. Evangelion scarred me on symbolism. :(

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The student Council has gathered, and a floodgate of abstract terms is opened. Anthy is The Bride, Rose Seals are the mark of the Student Council, who is doing something with the End of the World, and a new duelist is showing up to challenge Saionji for the right to Anthy.

Utena, meanwhile, is hellbent on getting revenge for Wakaba's humiliation, and challenges Saionji to a duel. However, Utena is completely clueless to the significance of this, and of her rose ring the prince in the past gave her.

I really liked the scene that followed.

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Everything about it was perfect. The bizzare, puppetlike movements, the exposition, and the lighting created a very strange, but fitting atmosphere.

And suddenly, ABSOLUTE DESTINY APOCALYPSE.

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That staircase is pretty awesome anyway you look at it, but I'm just afraid it's going to become stock footage to pad out the show.

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After piercing the heavens and discovering she's wandered into Castlevania, Utena finds Anthy and Saionji waiting at the top.

Drawing the sword was such a freudian moment, even compared to the rest of the show.

The terms are set by Anthy for the duel: Knock the rose off the other duelist's chest. Anthy wins another pimp-slap for daring to wish Utena good luck. :( About the roses, it would be so easy to start attaching deep symbolisms to them and what they could represent, but I'm inclined to believe that for the present it's just the standard shoujo Rose Fetish in action.

I mentioned yesterday how Anthy was a complete doormat, but now that I have the time to explain fully, she isn't really. At this point, I hardly know anything about Anthy, but she shows enough defiance in action and speech to avoid being a doormat-esque character.

I would wish Utena luck too, she would be a much nicer master than GreenHair. ^^

One more bizzare song later, and Utena wins the duel somehow. I guess being an awesome shoujo protagonist allows you to do the impossible
row row fight the powa

Speaking of shoujo, though, I have to wonder if this really qualifies as shoujo? It seems a bit more mature than what generally is wanted by the 12 year old girl crowd.

Anthy attaches herself to Utena, her new master, whe're given a warning that Utena will have to participate in more duels, and credits roll.


Somehow, this was both a lot different and very similar to how I expected Utena to be. The characters are more normal than I anticipated, but the tone and the atmosphere of the show itself is quite enigmatic, with plenty of room to branch in any number of ways.

Oh, and let's not forget about all that symbolism~

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how many phallic shapes can you spot in this picture?
And all that was only in the first 5 minutes or so of the show.


You'll notice I took it upon myself to present the proper, unmutilated screenshots of the scenes Hix tried to ruin with his evil agenda. Feel free to compare them side by side, it'll make Hix's unholy desecrations look even worse when you can compare them to the glorious true aspect ratio.
 

mhayze

Member
Both aren't spectacular to be honest. Decent enough for a few laughs but not Nichijou or Daily Lives of High School Boys level.

Since we're now comparing student council shows to just general slice of life school comedies, I would amend that to 'but not Azumanga Daiou level'. Even between the two school council shows (lower level though they may be), I think SYD is much better.
 

cajunator

Banned
Aw you didnt include Dolls, that was my favorite song from it.

This show seems to have really excellent music. It makes me want to watch it just based on that alone.

http://fuse-anime.com/

Fuse - A girl gunslinger's detective story

Original Author: Sakuraba Kazuki (Gosick)
Director: Masayuki Miyaji (Xam'd)
Script: Ichiro Okouchi (Code Geass)

New theatrical anime for Fall 2012.

This has solid potential (to be a trainwreck) so I may as well hook it to my veins now. Gotta be prepared!

Now and Then, Here and There - 02

Steroyd does not approve of cat abuse. And the king is crazy all his ramblings because he wants
water
lolwut?

water
is scarce, like
dirt
was in Water World.
 

Defuser

Member
Since we're now comparing student council shows to just general slice of life school comedies, I would amend that to 'but not Azumanga Daiou level'. Even between the two school council shows (lower level though they may be), I think SYD is much better.

Problem is SYD is almost nothing but sex jokes.
 
You'll notice I took it upon myself to present the proper, unmutilated screenshots of the scenes Hix tried to ruin with his evil agenda. Feel free to compare them side by side, it'll make Hix's unholy desecrations look even worse when you can compare them to the glorious true aspect ratio.

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There's nothing proper or unmultilated about your screenshots at all! You're just trying to conceal the black bar evidence in some vain attempt to defend anime from my righteous pimp hand, like Utena defending Anthy from similar justice!

Here's your "proper and unmultilated screenshot";

Utena%20bad%20Utena%20BAD.png


You have a problem Envelope, but worry not, Media Player Classic has the solution;

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On another note, I dare you guys to try and pull the impossible body contortion that the teacher pulls in this screenshot, face frozen in a permanent state of anger and defiance. I just tried and now my arms hurt.
 

cajunator

Banned
Gaffers seem to watch it because of its badness. I watched it because it was depressing and Hamdo is like an insane
Hitler

Plus, Lalaru is HNNG.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
http://whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/dont-believe-his-lies.jpg

There's nothing proper or unmultilated about your screenshots at all! You're just trying to conceal the black bar evidence in some vain attempt to defend anime from my righteous pimp hand, like Utena defending Anthy from similar justice!

Here's your "proper and unmultilated screenshot";

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61998807/Anime Screenshots/Utena bad Utena BAD.png

You have a problem Envelope, but worry not, Media Player Classic has the solution;

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61998807/Anime Screenshots/utena1 3.png

On another note, I dare you guys to try and pull the impossible body contortion that the teacher pulls in this screenshot, face frozen in a permanent state of anger and defiance. I just tried and now my arms hurt.
you could just crop the image in post-production...
 

cajunator

Banned
I do need to be careful watching shows just because of a great OST because Angel Beats has a pretty good one and you guys LOOOOOOOVE that show.
Although, to be fair I did enjoy Angel Beats for the stupid show that it is. The music easily got me through it.

Music is oftentimes a pretty good indicator of a good show though.
 
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