Phoenician_Viking
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I thought as much.
I know, but we did not get the reason of why
Rue saved Katmis in the first place
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The Hunger Games (Dir. Gary Ross) |OT| May The Odds Be Ever In Your Favor
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I know, but we did not get the reason of why
Yeah, and the ability to start and cease forest fires at the touch of a button was lulz too.
The fireballs made me lol
One thing that wasn't really clear, or maybe it was, but I want to believe I missed something and that there was more to it than in the film:
Where do the dogs come from? Do they seriously just materilize these things in an instant? Or were there some secret holding points for these things Gladiator-style that I never saw? I suppose what I'm asking is whether I'm watching a fantasy film or not.
They were magic computer dogs, far as I can tell. What's odd (or odder), however, is that the guy's body disappeared along with them.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Lol in the book:They were all the already dead tributes crossed with evil wolves. They had their human faces and stood on their back dog legs. It sounded retarded then. Glad to hear they sort of changed it now, but with little context. Oh well. Evil dogs. Same as the fire, just a "gamemaker" thing they did.
Okay, suspicions confirmed: Movie was bad because book was bad.
I know, but we did not get the reason of whyRue saved Katmis in the first place
She was a compassionate - and, I suppose, naive - little girl. I don't think it was any deeper than that.
Barack Lesnar
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You know, the 87% isn't a rating, it's the percentage of reviewers that thought it was at least decent.
Never said it was a rating.
Lol in the book:They were all the already dead tributes crossed with evil wolves. They had their human faces and stood on their back dog legs. It sounded retarded then. Glad to hear they sort of changed it now, but with little context. Oh well. Evil dogs. Same as the fire, just a "gamemaker" thing they did.
This is absolutely crazy.
Of All Trades
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This is absolutely crazy.
They don't have
human faces in the book, just human eyes. It does come out of nowhere, though. The genetically engineered critters are talked about in the book but there's nothing to suggest that human-wolf monster brain transplant stuff would be possible
Rue
helping Katniss: it's an alliance of convenience, the idea being they'd work together until the numbers get lower and then eventually kill each other. Very Survivor-ish in theory. Why she cared at all about Rue in the book, though, is barely explained other than "reminds her of sister".
Phoenician_Viking
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Thanks.She was a compassionate - and, I suppose, naive - little girl. I don't think it was any deeper than that.
That´s quite shallow. I guess i was over thinking things.
This is absolutely crazy.
Well it's explained better in the book and there is a particular reason for it. It's done better in the second book as far as the point goes.
This is absolutely crazy.
That's some Twilight Bella-baby shit.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Well it's explained better in the book and there is a particular reason for it. It's done better in the second as far as the point goes
In the book do they also
materialize out of nowhere?
SteveWinwood
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They don't have.human faces in the book, just human eyes. It does come out of nowhere, though. The genetically engineered critters are talked about in the book but there's nothing to suggest that human-wolf monster brain transplant stuff would be possible
Ruehelping Katniss: it's an alliance of convenience, the idea being they'd work together until the numbers get lower and then eventually kill each other. Very Survivor-ish in theory. Why she cared at all about Rue in the book, though, is barely explained other than "reminds her of sister".
I happened to have the book next to me and I paged through it again and yeah I was wrong.
Yeah it was just eyes, and human like hair on the back of their necks, and standing up on their hind legs and using their front paws like they had human wrists. They knew it was the tributes from the eyes, the hair, and that each had a collar with the number of the district they were from.
In the book do they alsomaterialize out of nowhere?
They were fighting that one dude so they didn't notice where they came from. When they left it was the gamemakers opened up some hole in the ground which isn't too out there because they were already on the cornucopia.
They were magic computer dogs, far as I can tell. What's odd (or odder), however, is that the guy's body disappeared along with them.
Apparently, in the books it's explained that all dead bodies are immediately swept from the ground, due to fear of cannibalism. Why this is problematic I have no idea, but apparently it is.
SteveWinwood
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Apparently, in the books it's explained that all dead bodies are immediately swept from the ground, due to fear of cannibalism. Why this is problematic I have no idea, but apparently it is.
Because it's cannibalism? They had a tribute in one of the previous years who did that. It was also implied that they killed that contestant off because of it.
Apparently, in the books it's explained that all dead bodies are immediately swept from the ground, due to fear of cannibalism. Why this is problematic I have no idea, but apparently it is.
Its said that it happened before and really turned off the viewers.
In the book do they alsomaterialize out of nowhere?
No
kat notices them chasing Cato from a distance
BertramCooper
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I really, really liked it.
It was a rather substantial improvement upon the book. It's so much more interesting and satisfying when you're not limited to Katniss' point-of-view.
It was a rather substantial improvement upon the book. It's so much more interesting and satisfying when you're not limited to Katniss' point-of-view.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I happened to have the book next to me and I paged through it again and yeah I was wrong.Yeah it was just eyes, and human like hair on the back of their necks, and standing up on their hind legs and using their front paws like they had human wrists. They knew it was the tributes from the eyes, the hair, and that each had a collar with the number of the district they were from.
They were fighting that one dude so they didn't notice where they came from. When they left it was the gamemakers opened up some hole in the ground which isn't too out there because they were already on the cornucopia.
It's certainly out there in the movie.
The gamemaker is all like 'Alright. Give me two more!' Then two more suddenly appear out of nowhere mid-chase, along with the other one that was already chasing. Really stupid shit.
BertramCooper
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I quite liked the movie but the lasting taste it left me with was that of a movie that could have and probably should have been so much more. I felt that the concept was so ripe with potential but unfortunately it kept things mostly superficial and never really delved too much into social commentary aside from in some very basic ways. But I think my biggest problem was that the emotional core of the film really didn't work. The beats were all laid out, but they didn't have the gut punch effect on me they were intended to, so I felt a bit detached from it. Throw in the awful use of shakey cam and those are the three pillars of my disappointment.
However, I did still like the movie. After Winter's Bone and now The Hunger Games, Jennifer Lawrence is without a doubt completely legit and at the very top of the class of her generation of actors. In fact, I think the movie wouldn't have worked have as well had a lesser actress played Katniss. Lawrence really brought a lot more to the role than I bet was on paper. For a two and a half hour film, I thought it was nicely paced and felt pretty brisk, and I really liked a lot of the secondary characters. I enjoyed James Newton Howard's work too.
In the end, this is more frustrating experience for me than a total stinker is, because I got a 6/10 type movie that I liked when I know there is a 9/10 movie I would love buried deep in there.
Most of the flaws can be attributed to Suzanne Collins, who had some really great ideas but just isn't an exemplary writer.
I'm extremely impressed by Ross. He took a good (but by no means great) novel and really elevated it into a surprisingly profound film.
And the sequels explore some of the deeper philosophical questions, so perhaps you'll enjoy them a bit more. Glad to see that you liked it, though.
I really enjoyed the movie, having not read the book. I'll agree they could've done more with it based on the premise, but I still thought it was a pretty good watch and I'm interested as to what happens in the sequel.
Suspend disbelief and take the movie at face value and you'll enjoy. Surprised people are being so hard on it in here.
Suspend disbelief and take the movie at face value and you'll enjoy. Surprised people are being so hard on it in here.
This movie has an 87% on RT but mostly meh/bad impressions from gaf. Not sure what to believe. I usually go the gaf/regular person route as it tends to be the most honest and unbiased.
GAF is naturally harsh on things. Just go see it and make up your own mind.
District 9 being the exception, I generally like sci-fi that critics like and Gaf is very harsh on sci-fi themed movies (or at least the vocal ones).
I'm going to see it based on my enjoyment of the book which is getting weird hate too. However, critics seal the deal on it as they tended to have a different opinion of other supposed teen flicks.
I'm going to see it based on my enjoyment of the book which is getting weird hate too. However, critics seal the deal on it as they tended to have a different opinion of other supposed teen flicks.
I enjoyed it well enough. I'm gonna agree with the people that said that it didn't go far enough with the material. I understand that it's a YA novel, but at times it just came off a bit tame. Not just in terms of violence, but also in the personalities of the characters. Which was jarring, considering the situation and world they live in.
That was my only serious issue with it. I liked it, and I'd like to see them take a shot at the sequels.
Btw, like it hasn't been said enough, but Jennifer Lawrence is fucking gorgeous. I liked her in First Class, but this is the movie that did it for me.
That was my only serious issue with it. I liked it, and I'd like to see them take a shot at the sequels.
Btw, like it hasn't been said enough, but Jennifer Lawrence is fucking gorgeous. I liked her in First Class, but this is the movie that did it for me.
Some good performances, brilliant by Lawrence in fact, mixed with some average action and played a bit safe (haven't read the film, just based on the subject matter - when compared to something like Battle Royale). The technology in the movie was a bit jarring to me, but having read some of the spoilers about the book re: the hunting dogs, I understand why they did the magic technology - look the other way, thing.
Would rather have teens aspiring to be Katniss and Peeta (why is it spelt that way?), then Bella & Edward that's for sure.
Thought half the cinema was going to riot after:
. Really cheap. Having said that,
Would rather have teens aspiring to be Katniss and Peeta (why is it spelt that way?), then Bella & Edward that's for sure.
Thought half the cinema was going to riot after:
Thresh died off screen
Why didn't he protect Rue? He was obviously upset with the knife girl for mocking her death
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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It's certainly out there in the movie.The gamemaker is all like 'Alright. Give me two more!' Then two more suddenly appear out of nowhere mid-chase, along with the other one that was already chasing. Really stupid shit.
They can pretty much control everything about the arena. They make it night and day on a whim, and transporting two dogs is really stupid?
goodness....
FRIDAY 4:10 PM, 4TH UPDATE EXCLUSIVE: My movie studio sources are telling me that the Friday gargantuan opening box office for Lionsgates The Hunger Games is ranging from a low of $60M to a high of $75M today from 4,137 North American theaters.
That number includes the record-setting $19.75M midnight grosses. For the 3-day weekend overall domestic blockbuster number, my insiders are predicting a low of $135M to a high near $150M.
SCULLIBUNDO
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They can pretty much control everything about the arena. They make it night and day on a whim, and transporting two dogs is really stupid?
Well I assumed the
Night and day stuff was like The Truman show in that it was an enclosed biosphere whose borders (including the ceiling/sky) were artificial. Conjuring two dogs out of thin air did seem jarring in comparison to this.
It's certainly out there in the movie.The gamemaker is all like 'Alright. Give me two more!' Then two more suddenly appear out of nowhere mid-chase, along with the other one that was already chasing. Really stupid shit.
I don't see how that was that outlandish given that the film previously set up several times the fact that they could control things on a whim. Like
specifically having a burning log fall in front of her.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I don't see how that was that outlandish given that the film previously set up several times the fact that they could control things on a whim. Likespecifically having a burning log fall in front of her.
Yes, that shit was just as stupid.
Not to say that HG doesn't deserve a high score, but it's got to be more of an art than a science to rate a review as either positive or negative. I'm wondering if there is some sort of sentiment analysis algorithm involved because of the weirdness with how some of the reviews are being treated.You know, the 87% isn't a rating, it's the percentage of reviewers that thought it was at least decent.
A 6/10 review that was summarized as "May the Dramamine be ever in your favor" was treated as a positive review.
There are a lot of other examples of lukewarm reviews like "Lawrence is terrific, but the film is a sleek, competent example of a big-budget, sure-fire commercial hit without much soul or style" that could have been rated as either positive or negative, but ended up in the positive pile.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Well I assumed theNight and day stuff was like The Truman show in that it was an enclosed biosphere whose borders (including the ceiling/sky) were artificial. Conjuring two dogs out of thin air did seem jarring in comparison to this.
That's the right way to interpret it, but I think everything about the arena is basically artificial. They have cameras everywhere, have separate rooms for each tribute to get to the arena, and don't want to ever lose control of what happens. They probably have a giant base under the whole arena.
Demoncarnotaur
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You know, I really liked this movie. It wasn't perfect or anything, and the shaky cam was overboard, but I really enjoyed it. My GF and I have not read the books, so we went in blind and both came out really impressed. Also, my theater was freaking packed, and while they were mostly younger girls, there was more diversity and tameness compared to the twilight crowds. Something closer to HP crowds. I think this series can really evolve into something great.
Spoilers:
Spoilers:
Rue's death was a really well done and impactifal scene, something that the rest of the movie lacked. The editing of the riot, etc, was very well done and really hit the right emotions.
Did that dude kill the girl with the red hair? The way the camera panned down to the red from the berries on his hand seemed as if it was implying he was somehow involved with her death. And not just by accidentally picking poisonous berries and her seeing that and eating them.
Did that dude kill the girl with the red hair? The way the camera panned down to the red from the berries on his hand seemed as if it was implying he was somehow involved with her death. And not just by accidentally picking poisonous berries and her seeing that and eating them.
Demoncarnotaur
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Yeah, I caught that too (blood on his hand).
Yeah, I dunno if that was just a result of awkward editing or if it meant something else.
Did that dude kill the girl with the red hair? The way the camera panned down to the red from the berries on his hand seemed as if it was implying he was somehow involved with her death. And not just by accidentally picking poisonous berries and her seeing that and eating them.
From what I remember in the book, I don't think he had anything to do with it. It was all an accident.
For those interested, there was a fan made recreation of the
Rue death scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_jw3z68TW0&feature=player_detailpage#t=67s
Demoncarnotaur
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From what I remember in the book, I don't think he had anything to do with it. It was all an accident.
For those interested, there was a fan made recreation of thefrom a long time back. Despite it's fan-made quality, the acting is surprisingly decent.Rue death scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_jw3z68TW0&feature=player_detailpage#t=67s
Re-spoiler tag what you quoted.
But also, thanks for the answer. Awkward editing it is.
Spoilers:Did that dude kill the girl with the red hair? The way the camera panned down to the red from the berries on his hand seemed as if it was implying he was somehow involved with her death. And not just by accidentally picking poisonous berries and her seeing that and eating them.
Won't get to see the movie for a week, but it sounds like you're talking about when
Peeta picked the poison berries for lunch and Foxface ate them and died. Peeta didn't intend to kill her, but she'd been stealing their food all along and wound up stealing the berries he'd set aside for lunch, thus dying. When the cannon goes off and the helicopter/hovercraft thing airlifts Foxface out Peeta wonders who could have killed her. Katniss explains she was 'his kill' since she'd eaten the berries he'd left behind. No intent, but his actions did actually cause her death, so he could feel guilty about it/responsible for it.
Re-spoiler tag what you quoted.
But also, thanks for the answer. Awkward editing it is.
Yikes, didn't notice that! Thanks
SCULLIBUNDO
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Won't get to see the movie for a week, but it sounds like you're talking about whenPeeta picked the poison berries for lunch and Foxface ate them and died. Peeta didn't intend to kill her, but she'd been stealing their food all along and wound up stealing the berries he'd set aside for lunch, thus dying. When the cannon goes off and the helicopter/hovercraft thing airlifts Foxface out Peeta wonders who could have killed her. Katniss explains she was 'his kill' since she'd eaten the berries he'd left behind. No intent, but his actions did actually cause her death, so he could feel guilty about it/responsible for it.
Holy shit that is lame. I assumed it was the darker alternative as well. Should have known the pattern of ballessness was even worse than I suspected.
Demoncarnotaur
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Won't get to see the movie for a week, but it sounds like you're talking about whenPeeta picked the poison berries for lunch and Foxface ate them and died. Peeta didn't intend to kill her, but she'd been stealing their food all along and wound up stealing the berries he'd set aside for lunch, thus dying. When the cannon goes off and the helicopter/hovercraft thing airlifts Foxface out Peeta wonders who could have killed her. Katniss explains she was 'his kill' since she'd eaten the berries he'd left behind. No intent, but his actions did actually cause her death, so he could feel guilty about it/responsible for it.
Ah ok, see it was implied that was the case in the movie, but some of the camera angles implied there may have been more to the story.
Yikes, didn't notice that! Thanks
Haha no problem, its pretty easy to miss.
Holy shit that is lame. I assumed it was the darker alternative as well. Should have known the pattern of ballessness was even worse than I suspected.
But
Peeta
SCULLIBUNDO
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Butwas never set up to be that kind of character... it wouldn't have made sense.Peeta
It would have made sense in that having somebody following him and his new crush in a game of last man standing puts their goddamn lives at risk. In the context of a game which started with kids slashing each ohter's throats, it makes perfect sense as a necessary action of survival.
The story is so fucking cowardly, especially given the premise.
The story is so fucking cowardly, especially given the premise.
It would have made sense in that having somebody following him and his new crush in a game of last man standing puts their goddamn lives at risk. In the context of a game which started with kids slashing each ohter's throats, it makes perfect sense as a necessary action of survival.
The story is do fucking cowardly, especially given the premise.
Well in his little talk with Katniss by the window, when he said that he would be willing to kill, it seemed more like he only would if he absolutely needed to. Both foxface and him were playing the game the same way: defensively. I don't think foxface ever killed anyone and neither did Peeta (well... lol). If Peeta knew she was following them, and I can't remember if he did in the book, I think it would have been clear to him that it was out of survival need rather than harm, since she could have killed them at any time. Foxface also established her fear of confrontation when she ran into Katniss at the beginning of the game and fled. That being said, I know that Peeta wasn't there to see that so he couldn't have known her intentions.
I'm honestly not trying to justify anything, I'm just explaining my interpretation.
It would have made sense in that having somebody following him and his new crush in a game of last man standing puts their goddamn lives at risk. In the context of a game which started with kids slashing each ohter's throats, it makes perfect sense as a necessary action of survival.
The story is so fucking cowardly, especially given the premise.
Eh,
Peeta's the chick in the story. The Damsel in Distress who can buck up in the heat of the moment but isn't going to be able to plot his way out of a paper sack. Teaming up with the careers early on would be something cooked up with Haymitch, but calculating to kill somebody for a strategic advantage would be beyond him. One can make a good argument that Katniss should have been coming up with this shit the whole time, since she's all about her survival, but Peeta's lack of balls is like his entire point.
Gamer @ Heart
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Really enjoyed it. That first cut at the start was fantastic but man oh man at that shaky came. The movie nailed the most emotional parts.
Eh,Peeta's the chick in the story. The Damsel in Distress who can buck up in the heat of the moment but isn't going to be able to plot his way out of a paper sack. Teaming up with the careers early on would be something cooked up with Haymitch, but calculating to kill somebody for a strategic advantage would be beyond him. One can make a good argument that Katniss should have been coming up with this shit the whole time, since she's all about her survival, but Peeta's lack of balls is like his entire point.
Yeahhh.
Peeta could have killed the careers in their sleep and saved everybody a whole lot of trouble if he wanted to, but he's just not a killer.
Man-is-Obsolete
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Yeahhh.Peeta could have killed the careers in their sleep and saved everybody a whole lot of trouble if he wanted to, but he's just not a killer.
lol yea he could kill all 4 of them in their sleep. One of the careers would wake up and kill him instead, probably before he even killed one of them.
I really enjoyed the movie, none of the out of nowhere things bothered me as this is a Sci-Fi movie and thus nearly everything is up to the lore the movie establishes.
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