SCULLIBUNDO
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Dude. Woola looked fucking AWESOME in John Carter. He would have made THG about 950% better than it was.
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The Hunger Games (Dir. Gary Ross) |OT| May The Odds Be Ever In Your Favor
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Dude. Woola looked fucking AWESOME in John Carter. He would have made THG about 950% better than it was.
I'm actually really curious if you'd find the BR sequel better or worse than The Hunger Games. Because it is godawful.
This was a really really boring movie. It seemed to go on forever.
Audience kids kept announcing when characters were about to die and stuff.
Audience kids kept announcing when characters were about to die and stuff.
Katniss: "If you wear this you'll be ok." Kids: "She's wrong. She's the first one picked!"
Katniss: "Don't worry, you'll be ok." "Actually she's about to get killed by a spear!"
Here comes the spear! Spear to the tummy... wait, where's the spear? Oh there it is! YEAH! SPEAR TO THE TUMMY! What? That's it..? guess it was too graphic.
"She's gonna shoot the apples!"
Katniss: "Don't worry, you'll be ok." "Actually she's about to get killed by a spear!"
Here comes the spear! Spear to the tummy... wait, where's the spear? Oh there it is! YEAH! SPEAR TO THE TUMMY! What? That's it..? guess it was too graphic.
"She's gonna shoot the apples!"
Just came back. I think it's okay. Being too kid-friendly (age rating) is my main problem with it. And yes, the dogs and CG in general was that of normal quality ala 1999, not that it matters much as the focus is on running around the woods. I was surprised that this was only about half the film though.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
I never knew a sequel even existed. Will skip.
How bad is it? I got it in my complete collection which I bought because I'm a stickler for theatrical cuts (+I hear the directors cut of the first is ass anyways and the TC doesn't come with the standalone first movie release) and I got it for $20 when Amazon put it up first. Pricing error I guess.
Is it worth a spin or should I just forget it?
The CG was awful. But the CG was pretty bad in all the Harry Potter films (and, from what I've seen of the trailers, Twilight too), and most blockbusters anyways so it's hardly without precedent. I'm just surprised so much of it was CG - it looked awful and could easily have looked better + been a bit cheaper with a more clever blend of practical effects, miniatures, and CG. Even something like Rise of Planet of the Apes was made on the cheap (for a massive blockbuster film) and, I thought, looked really really good, to say nothing of the likes of cloverfield and district 9.
Pachterballs
Banned
never watch the BR sequel. its complete ass.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Saw this with my GF earlier today in a theater that was maybe half-full. Thought it was utterly forgettable. Aside from a couple of solid performances, the acting was weak, the action was poorly done, and the shaky-cam was annoying. At one point I realized that I actually didn't care if any of the characters lived or died, but it was so predictable that it didn't matter anyway. I had zero sense of fear for anything but the ending I expected.
Totally don't get the hype for this film. I know I'm not the target demo, but I wasn't for Harry Potter either and I still enjoyed those films.
Totally don't get the hype for this film. I know I'm not the target demo, but I wasn't for Harry Potter either and I still enjoyed those films.
I concur, and he had the disadvantage of being drenched in bright sunlight for most of the film.
It's really, really bad. It has a couple of moments that are laughable in their badness, so it can be kind of funny, but you should not watch it if you want an actual good movie. They manage to borrow more than a couple of concepts from the first film, then execute them in a way that makes no sense, and somehow make the ramped-up carnage boring and silly. Also, it's all based on the idea that
Shuya decided to go be a terrorist in revenge for the events of the first movie
It has a few parts that are so dumb they're funny, but it's a huge disappointment if you're expecting anything near as good as the first.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Awwwww.
I was hoping that she would start removing the regime. I liked the movie but i don´t want to watch a recycled version 2 years from now, or whenever the second movie comes out.
I feel like I'm Mr. Easily Pleased because I am fucking blown away by all the criticism towards shaky cam. People keep mentioning it makes it difficult to follow the action. My only reaction is.. So? I see it as a chance to make the action look chaotic and I don't feel like I have to catch everything 100% durin those scenes....
David Incorporated Esq.
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I usually don't mind a little shaky cam but fuck, totally shit all over the last fight.
Also, pretty surprised at how early it ended. When Cato says it's just him left I thought, wait what, what happened to everyone else?
And I just want to say that the entire premise of the fiction is fucking retarded. I don't care how jaded and cynical a civilization gets, nobody's going to see a 12 year girl old take a spear to the gut and shout "Cheerio! What jolly good sport!"
Really stupid, all around, but not a bad flick for Saturday afternoon.
Edit: And can someone explain a little more what the fuck is going on with the Districts? Okay yeah wealth inequality is obviously a problem but it's pretty much slave labor. How does the capitol not have daily protests and riots of "Hey let's not be such utter dicks to poor people." Maybe it's all the wine I shared with my neighbors but now I'm all mad at the premise for the movie. It's straight up bullshit.
Also, pretty surprised at how early it ended. When Cato says it's just him left I thought, wait what, what happened to everyone else?
And I just want to say that the entire premise of the fiction is fucking retarded. I don't care how jaded and cynical a civilization gets, nobody's going to see a 12 year girl old take a spear to the gut and shout "Cheerio! What jolly good sport!"
Really stupid, all around, but not a bad flick for Saturday afternoon.
Edit: And can someone explain a little more what the fuck is going on with the Districts? Okay yeah wealth inequality is obviously a problem but it's pretty much slave labor. How does the capitol not have daily protests and riots of "Hey let's not be such utter dicks to poor people." Maybe it's all the wine I shared with my neighbors but now I'm all mad at the premise for the movie. It's straight up bullshit.
It would've made sense for a character who said he wasn't ready to kill and who had no survival skills (outside of hiding) to setup a trap in the woods involving poison berries he knew nothing about and baiting?
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Yeah, the conclusion that they should offer up a sacrificial kid into death games as a way of keeping the peace and no explanation beyond that made me laugh. This had to be one of the dumbest societies ever depicted.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
No.
When I first saw the cherry-juice on his hands and he explained that they were being followed closely, I thought it was blood. I thought he was forced to take a life for the sake of saving himself and Katniss. That would have been confronting the interesting themes at play.
Then Katniss explained about the berry juice and that it was an accident and I groaned inside. I never assumed he planted poison food for her. He didn't seem that smart or conniving.
Then Katniss explained about the berry juice and that it was an accident and I groaned inside. I never assumed he planted poison food for her. He didn't seem that smart or conniving.
David Incorporated Esq.
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It really breaks the world for me. Sure, if it were set in ancient Greece or something (yes I know that's what the fiction borrows from already) it would make sense, but for a modern society it's a truly absurd premise.
Oh yea my impressions:
As a person who read the books, I did enjoy it to a certain degree but I think it tried too hard to stay faithful to the source material to the point where it was kind of boring. It was the book without all the fluff which is fine but the whole thing seemed very safe. Like they didn't want to piss of the fans or something. Had no voice of it's own so everything just fell flat to me. All the emotional points ended up being rather comical.
Though the casting did seem strange to me. I cant imagine them pulling off what they have to in the next two books emotionally with the tone and actors used in this one. Shit gets rather serious. I can see it being very cheesy.
As a person who read the books, I did enjoy it to a certain degree but I think it tried too hard to stay faithful to the source material to the point where it was kind of boring. It was the book without all the fluff which is fine but the whole thing seemed very safe. Like they didn't want to piss of the fans or something. Had no voice of it's own so everything just fell flat to me. All the emotional points ended up being rather comical.
Though the casting did seem strange to me. I cant imagine them pulling off what they have to in the next two books emotionally with the tone and actors used in this one. Shit gets rather serious. I can see it being very cheesy.
Jack Scofield
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This movie was fucking stupid. I wouldn't have thought that a book about a fight to the death would have played it so safe. To boot, it's not even internally consistent at all.
In summary, the movie (and by extension, the book) sucked and made no sense.
First off, why the fuck isn't the main character offing her competition whenever she has the chance? I get it, she's supposed to be the "good guy," pure and innocent or whatever. But when you're in a competition in which 23 other people want to KILL YOU, your morals and ethics take a backseat to your survival instinct. So when Katniss comes across an enemy in a forest clearing, why the fuck doesn't she kill him/her with an arrow? Makes no sense. And to make matters even worse, every time she does hurt someone it's through indirect means (bees, dogs, poison berries). It's obvious this is a series written for children based on how it's totally defanged.
Also, the movie makes no effort to remain internally consistent. We (the audience) are led to believe that the cannons fire whenever a contestant is killed. And indeed, at multiple times in the movie the cannons boom the second a character dies. Then why the fuck don't the cannons fire when the little black girl and her killer die? Oh right, because it would ruin the mood. And later, Katniss hears the cannons and fears that Peeta has been killed, so she scrambles around calling for him. But not five minutes later, a cannon booms and notifies everyone that the black guy was killed. Why didn't Katniss just look up into the sky and see if Peeta was killed if the notifications are always displayed in the sky? Fucking dumb.
I find it hard to believe that the Districts aren't crying foul at how often (and to which extent) the producers intervene in the games. I thought these contestants were supposed to fend for themselves? Why are you trying to kill them with fireballs and giant dogs. Unfair.
And I knew the author of the books had no backbone the second she allowed two winners to the Games. What a fucking joke.
Also, the movie makes no effort to remain internally consistent. We (the audience) are led to believe that the cannons fire whenever a contestant is killed. And indeed, at multiple times in the movie the cannons boom the second a character dies. Then why the fuck don't the cannons fire when the little black girl and her killer die? Oh right, because it would ruin the mood. And later, Katniss hears the cannons and fears that Peeta has been killed, so she scrambles around calling for him. But not five minutes later, a cannon booms and notifies everyone that the black guy was killed. Why didn't Katniss just look up into the sky and see if Peeta was killed if the notifications are always displayed in the sky? Fucking dumb.
I find it hard to believe that the Districts aren't crying foul at how often (and to which extent) the producers intervene in the games. I thought these contestants were supposed to fend for themselves? Why are you trying to kill them with fireballs and giant dogs. Unfair.
And I knew the author of the books had no backbone the second she allowed two winners to the Games. What a fucking joke.
In summary, the movie (and by extension, the book) sucked and made no sense.
anyone else feel like there was like
half a good movie here, buried under a pile of YA crap
i mean the books obviously arent for me, seeing as im a grown ass man and all but you know
it was like watching baby's first battle royale
and the male lead was pathetic and shitty as all fuck
goddamn he didnt do a thing
and was i meant to care about
plus,
so many problems that just weigh down the movie for no reason
they really need like a reality tsar dave jacoby type guy to fix their shitty tv show
like goddamn the amount of unfair garbage.
half a good movie here, buried under a pile of YA crap
i mean the books obviously arent for me, seeing as im a grown ass man and all but you know
it was like watching baby's first battle royale
and the male lead was pathetic and shitty as all fuck
goddamn he didnt do a thing
and was i meant to care about
how much they cared about one another in the end or some shit, i dont even know. did they even? he obv wanted her but was she just putting on a show? thats what i thought, but then she ends up being hysterical near the end when she hears the canon and shit
plus,
how was i meant to give a shit about the little girl dying when she had like 2 minutes of screen time
so many problems that just weigh down the movie for no reason
they really need like a reality tsar dave jacoby type guy to fix their shitty tv show
like goddamn the amount of unfair garbage.
why start them with no gear, why have no weight classes, no age classes. fucking 12 to 18? 12 year olds are gonna get rocked yo. forest fires and genetically engineered dogs when the producers get bored? fuck off
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Oh no. I'm on the same side as Jack Scofield.
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
This right here seriously bothered me. Not just because it would be a great way to throw the districts into riots but because it was a terrible plot device. Don't throw vicious mutant dogs into a movie about humans on the raggedy edge of morality.
In short: I'm too old for this shit.
Biff
Member
I didn't read the book, and I was able to enjoy the movie.
I think it's just another example where the PG rating hurt the movie. Don't get me wrong, I think the acting was great, setting was great and plot was generally good, but it was so clear that the directors were trying their hardest to stretch the PG rating. Just go 14A. The book is targetted at that age range anyway.
Also, Jennifer Lawrence has such a weird face. At times she is smoking hot, at times she is forgettably average. I don't know if it was makeup or camera angles or what but she is definitely the most variably hot actress I've ever seen.
I think it's just another example where the PG rating hurt the movie. Don't get me wrong, I think the acting was great, setting was great and plot was generally good, but it was so clear that the directors were trying their hardest to stretch the PG rating. Just go 14A. The book is targetted at that age range anyway.
Also, Jennifer Lawrence has such a weird face. At times she is smoking hot, at times she is forgettably average. I don't know if it was makeup or camera angles or what but she is definitely the most variably hot actress I've ever seen.
Inspiration for the story came from reality TV shows. The producers of the games used these devices as a way to keep things interesting and create their own narrative within the game. It wouldn't be very fun to watch people camping on opposite corners of the arena for days on end, just as watching people live out their regular lives on TV wouldn't be very interesting either. It's partially manufactured to keep things interesting.
yeah but if youre ripping off battle royale anyway, be smart enough to rip off the mechanism which keeps them on the move
no point half assing it if youre straight stealing already
not ah fuck it random forest fire
Jack Scofield
Member
Another thing that bothered me!
Aggghhghh, this is fucking dumb.
So the rag-tag group of bad guys plants land mines around their supplies, hoping to kill Katniss when she attempts to steal said supplies. For no reason at all the leave a guard behind to...guard the booby-trapped pile of food and ammunition...I guess? Anyway, Katniss sees through their ruse and sets of the explosives.
But for some reason the main bad guy is pissed that the explosives went off and destroyed their supplies? Then why did you bobby-trap the supplies in the first place? They would've been destroyed regardless.
But for some reason the main bad guy is pissed that the explosives went off and destroyed their supplies? Then why did you bobby-trap the supplies in the first place? They would've been destroyed regardless.
Aggghhghh, this is fucking dumb.
i couldnt wrap my head around it either
at first i assumed they wanted the supplies to themselves, so they set up mines to defend them
but then the actual stack of supplies is booby trapped as well because it explodes more than the actual mines do
why
why would you do this
but then the actual stack of supplies is booby trapped as well because it explodes more than the actual mines do
why
why would you do this
I believe Suzanne Collins claims to have not known about Battle Royale when she wrote the book.
And there is no reason to believe that she had, since neither property is supremely original or difficult to come up with on one's own.
yeah well i believe she's full of shit so whatever
her position is incredibly implausible
i dont care that she took the idea, ideas are ideas theyre free for everyone to use
she just did it shittier than she shouldve
Good Job Bob
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What keeps them on the move in Battle Royale?
This is explained better in the book I guess.
The kid who re-armed the mines and setup the trap (because that is what it was, a trap to kill anyone who tried to steal their food/supplies) did too good of a job. Ideally a single mine would have exploded killing whoever was trying to steal the stuff, instead a chain reaction occurred blowing everything up.
slight spoilers for BR
they have exploding rings around their neck, which are meant to keep them from escaping, but they also randomly select a number of sectors on the island, announce them to the competitors, and if youre in one of the sectors you have a few hours to gtfo before they blow you up using a broadcast radio signal
guess you better hope you did orienteering in school lol
guess you better hope you did orienteering in school lol
oh ok. that makes more sense
the movie just makes the entire thing look intentional. like she KNEW it would happen. kind of daft
The bombs were too powerful. they were supposed to just be powerful enough to blow up Kat who wasn't supposed to know about them.
the guard was there because they didn't really want the guy around to begin with and it would be better to kill Kat with no explosives.
the guard was there because they didn't really want the guy around to begin with and it would be better to kill Kat with no explosives.
I liked the movie but was a bit disappointed with the Games.
I adored the first hour in the District/Capitol. Ross totally nailed the feeling of dread, much more than the book ever achieved. My favorite scenes were
. And the use of minimal or no score in some sections was brilliant. Such a great way to let you bask in the sounds of the characters and environments. I'm now questioning why more movies don't do this.
The Games themselves were disappointing. It really did just follow the script too closely at the expense of creating an atmosphere of danger. In the book it felt like Katniss had to be hidden and alert every waking moment, but that didn't translate well into the film. The arena just didn't feel dangerous despite all the bloodshed and the producers being able to instantly conjure up any horror. And regarding charater development:
Also, regarding Cato:
I wasn't annoying by the shaky cam in most occasions. I can only think of two or three scenes during the Games where it was detrimental:
. The action in the movie in general wasn't anything spectacular though.
Oh, and the ending was really damn fast. I appreciate that it didn't drag, but there wasn't any room to breathe either. They should've spent a few more minutes
. By the way, this scene that wasn't in the book was awesome:
P.S. whatever happened in the Hunger Games is certainly more plausible than a movie studio spending $250 million on a movie set in Mars with a terrible lead actor.
... oh.
Hmm.
I adored the first hour in the District/Capitol. Ross totally nailed the feeling of dread, much more than the book ever achieved. My favorite scenes were
the reaping, Katniss and Peeta looking at and arriving to the Capitol from the train, the few minutes before entering the Games (the movie was oozing with atmosphere in this part)
The Games themselves were disappointing. It really did just follow the script too closely at the expense of creating an atmosphere of danger. In the book it felt like Katniss had to be hidden and alert every waking moment, but that didn't translate well into the film. The arena just didn't feel dangerous despite all the bloodshed and the producers being able to instantly conjure up any horror. And regarding charater development:
Rue was certainly underdeveloped. I felt the scene of her death was executed well, but given how little audiences knew of her I'm not surprised some people are saying the scene had no emotional impact. I certainly felt sad but that's because Rue was a developed character for me via the book. District 11 rebelling was a nice addition though.
Also, regarding Cato:
I like how they handled him, especially that little scene before he died that was a redemption of sorts for his character. Totally disappointing that he was killed so fast though, I thought the way the mutts tortured him for hours in the book really grounded how gruesome the Games are.
I wasn't annoying by the shaky cam in most occasions. I can only think of two or three scenes during the Games where it was detrimental:
Clove and Cato's fight scenes. I thought the shaky camera and outright confusion when the Games started was great though, it captured the insanity of the moment nicely
Oh, and the ending was really damn fast. I appreciate that it didn't drag, but there wasn't any room to breathe either. They should've spent a few more minutes
on the train heading back to District 12
Seneca getting locked up in a room with those poison berries in the middle. Just great.
P.S. whatever happened in the Hunger Games is certainly more plausible than a movie studio spending $250 million on a movie set in Mars with a terrible lead actor.
... oh.
Interesting that The Hunger Games is getting reamed for this, yet nearly every action movie barring Cameron movies and Harry Potter have an incredibly useless female lead and no one seems to complain about that.
Hmm.
toxicgonzo
Taxes?! Isn't this the line for Metallica?
I'm tired of the whole stolen-from-battle-royale thing.
The fight to the death arena dates as far back as gladiators in the coliseum.
The fight to the death arena dates as far back as gladiators in the coliseum.
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
what the fuck are you talking about, people complain about shitty female characters all the time
did you last talk about movies with someone who traveled here from the 1950s or something
Pachterballs
Banned
unlike the book...
the final chapters wrote about the things that peeta did do to save katniss.
made her desirable to sponsors/crowd
leading the pack away from katniss
save her from the pack; by staying up all night under the tree to ensure they didn't try to hunt her in the middle of the night
of course, he told her to run when she was stung.
probably more but I can't remember it all
by the time we revisted Peeta; he was critically wounded and sick.
and still manages to kill foxface
made her desirable to sponsors/crowd
leading the pack away from katniss
save her from the pack; by staying up all night under the tree to ensure they didn't try to hunt her in the middle of the night
of course, he told her to run when she was stung.
probably more but I can't remember it all
by the time we revisted Peeta; he was critically wounded and sick.
and still manages to kill foxface
oh, the movie didn't/wasn't able to convey
katniss going deaf in 1 ear; which suprirsed me in the book. She was definitely more damaged/underdoggy in the book. She went deaf in 1 ear from the mine explosion.
re:cato's anger at the
damaged supplies. Cato is a brute. Intelligence really wasn't his game. Maybe the anger was directed because no one was killed by the trap; and because the mines were destroyed; he no longer needed the district 3 boy (tech+) and killed him
also re: gamemakers and age selection. They basically can do anything; because they're the capital. Its entertainment. eg.
the selection is to show; they can do anything to the districts under their iron rule. The idea of the tessserae is also not explored in the film. Also; re:fairness; there is a lot of mention of having an entertaining game; and past "boring games where tributes died from cold/hunger = boring shows. In the book; kato took over an hour+ to die after being toyed with by the mutts as it was "entertainment"; and the gamemakers let it continue because it was good tv. Katniss wasn't able to kill him; and she and Peeta had to listen to the dogs eat away at him for the hour. The dogs+Cato were under the shelter so she couldn't shoot him and was only able to when he was dragged out..
so yeah. differences.
like koodo; I thought the lead up to the games were stronger. I thought the violence was lacking and diminsihed act II.
Jesus christ, I fear the day that I ever accidentally write something slightly resembling anything else. Giving people the benefit of the doubt is a healthy attitude to maintain, innocent until proven guilty and all that.
If one takes reality tv to it's logical extreme, mix in a little gladiator arena shit, and being a YA author, the recipe for this book is all right there without the need for knowing Battle Royale.
VeryGooster
Banned
Have there ever been convincing
in film?
Also, with all the Battle Royale comments, kind of surprised at no mentions of The Running Man or Smash TV.
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Also, with all the Battle Royale comments, kind of surprised at no mentions of The Running Man or Smash TV.
why are you talking about innocent until proven guilty, am i a court of law or something? i can assume people are full of crap when their story is implausible
how is that unhealthy lol
do you literally go around believing everything people tell you without thinking about if it makes sense or not
and i mean im not saying she just ripped off BR obv
she also ripped off the running man
im not saying i care she did either, thats not my point. i dont mind people telling similar stories to one another, if they do it well or offer a new spin or something
this just seemed very half assed
yeah screw you gooster lol, beat me to it
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
Another thing that bothered me. The woman who announced at the reaping constantly talking about manners and such: People in the theater laughed at her comments because she was unaware there was a lot more going on than just manners, i.e. "lol she doesn't realize she's preparing a child to die."
It all goes back to the entire premise being wholly fucked. At least Battle Royale was much more tongue in cheek about it.
It all goes back to the entire premise being wholly fucked. At least Battle Royale was much more tongue in cheek about it.
It's unhealthy because it's inherently negative. A due amount of skepticism regarding anything is always good, but there is nothing to suggest that Collins couldn't have come up with this story without BR. You say it's implausible like it's a fact when it is indeed perfectly plausible.
I don't know if she copied Battle Royale or not, but I would hate to be on the receiving end of such claims if they were not true. I don't know if they're true, so I don't make that judgment.
She knows she's preparing a child to die, but she lives in a society and class level where that is acceptable. That was the point.
Pachterballs
Banned
nah; its because Capitol people; their children don't go into the games and she has no empathy and is a selfish. She's concerned about manners because people in the capitol think they're the center of the universe; and that manners matter. Well, to the people in the capitol; the hunger games are entertainment. Its her character; yes premise is fucked but the political story is there and will be covered in more depth in book2. And her character is mirrored in almost every single other character from the capitol. Their attitudes towards food while people in the district starved. Their attitudes towards the game
BR is not classy classic high cinema. Its gorey anime fun. The reason why its so well regarded is because of the combination of high violence and japanese school kids (and the associated campness).
your issue seems to be with the plot/universe. well, that's it.
Capitol = evil.
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/03/23/the-hunger-games-vs-battle-royale/
David Incorporated Esq.
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And my point is that accepting that is impossible. It is simply too repulsive to represent any sort of human civilization post-barbarism. It's plain ridiculous and I don't buy it.
There are people in the Capitol who are obviously not okay with it and I can't imagine this society continuing like this without massive riots burning the streets every year during the games.
The premise is that the people of the Capitol enjoy it and enable it, and it's just not plausible. Which gets back to what I said earlier: I'm too old for this shit. I would have bought it as a teen but now I know better.
ok? youre allowed to if you want
i just disagree
and i think your whole philosophy is kind of dumb anyway. so you dont question people or their motives without ever knowing the 100% truth, because their feelings might be hurt or some shit?
i dont know why you expect other people to think like that
Alright guys, I can't decide if I should go see this movie tonight or not. There's a show in about an hour, I'm sitting on my butt not doing much else.
Guys from my work really like the books, and have told me I should read them, but I'm too lazy to read. I don't normally spend the high ticket prices at a movie theater either though. I really don't think it's something I'm going to like, but I try not to judge a book by it's cover either. Some of my favorite games/movies have come from low expectations.
One of my friends compared the love triangle stuff in this series to something like Twilight though, and Twilight is utter garbage (to me in my opinion anyway).
I'm usually a pretty open minded guy, but I just don't know what to make out of this movie/series. Help? What can you folks tell me about this movie to help convince me to go?
Guys from my work really like the books, and have told me I should read them, but I'm too lazy to read. I don't normally spend the high ticket prices at a movie theater either though. I really don't think it's something I'm going to like, but I try not to judge a book by it's cover either. Some of my favorite games/movies have come from low expectations.
One of my friends compared the love triangle stuff in this series to something like Twilight though, and Twilight is utter garbage (to me in my opinion anyway).
I'm usually a pretty open minded guy, but I just don't know what to make out of this movie/series. Help? What can you folks tell me about this movie to help convince me to go?
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
But it's clearly not--just look at Sinna. If there's a guy directly involved with the production who's not okay with it, consider the rest of society. It's ridiculous.
Pachterballs
Banned
its not non fiction. derp
read the thread. read the OP. see the trailer
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