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Or, alternatively, they stick with the handheld which already has two games past the 5 million mark, and is tracking comparatively better than their previous flop, the DS.
You know, just a thought.
Analyst on Wii U: "Competitive position has deteriorated", "No Activision support".
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Or, alternatively, they stick with the handheld which already has two games past the 5 million mark, and is tracking comparatively better than their previous flop, the DS.
You know, just a thought.
A stock analyst downgrading Nintendo's buy status based on concerns for Wii U's marketability, performance, and support (include listing two specific publishers) is not news?
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wow ROFL nice. i mean it hasn't even come out yet. these people man i swear
Chinpoko_Master
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More like the Wii U is following in the footsteps of the incredibly successful GameCube and Virtual Boy.
I think we need to know a little bit more about this particular analyst's track record. Afterall, some analysts will say ANYTHING
chickdigger802
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Consumers can't tell the difference between dvd and bluray.
People like tablets.
wii U, will not bomba.
People like tablets.
wii U, will not bomba.
more like the wii u is following in the footsteps of the dream cast and the second example
Wyndstryker
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There has to come a point where these kinds of threads become boring right?
I mean we get them almost every day. Nintendoomed this, iOS that, etc.
I mean we get them almost every day. Nintendoomed this, iOS that, etc.
nincompoop
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This analyst could find himself in a lot of trouble over these rumors. Spreading misinformation about a company in an attempt to lower its stock value is known as a bear raid, and is highly illegal.
Souldriver
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Okay, these rumors are getting so ridiculous that I'm actually entertained again. At the eve of E3 we'll be left believing the Wii U is simply a Casio calculator.
Massive disappointment, or crow eating. Either way: E3 will be glorious!
Massive disappointment, or crow eating. Either way: E3 will be glorious!
Given that quote, he is clearly speculating. What is true is that Apple currently sells content on all 4 screens, some of which does work the way he describes(audio, video).
I'm not defending the analyst, by the way, just trying to clear up what the "Four Screens" refers to.
I can wish that the console would deliver me free pizzas too.
The point is, something bad usually needs to happen for a company to change it's strategy.
Combichristoffersen
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'Anonymous developer says Wii U closer to abacus than Casio calculator'
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...No?
The first two factors are widely debated in a variety of different threads across the boards at the moment, and the Activision claim has been repeatedly proved false in this thread.
Unless we intend to make a thread about every single last thing anyone says about the WiiU between now and E3, there's little in here which wouldn't fit neatly in one of the other threads.
radioheadrule83
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Negative analyst stuff is quite common when it comes to Nintendo, they all think they should go IOS or some shit even though it goes against every single ounce of common sense and doesn't take into account where they make all their money...
But this kind of bullshit, that Activision comment, that is actually potentially really damaging and has no basis in truth. I'd be furious if I was a Nintendo investor reading this on a Good Friday..
But this kind of bullshit, that Activision comment, that is actually potentially really damaging and has no basis in truth. I'd be furious if I was a Nintendo investor reading this on a Good Friday..
While I'm not really saying Nintendo is or isn't agile, I fail to see how that is a good example of extreme agility. They dropped the price on an extremely high-margin item because it was selling like shit. That's superior agility?
I'm not saying his market analysis is accurate or not.
What I'm arguing is it's ridiculous to pretend this is an 'every single last thing' scenario. This is a huge financial securities firm downgrading one of the most respected and profitable CE companies in Japan. It's actually a pretty big deal.
The difference is the giant claim Activision, one of the biggest publishers in the world with the number one selling franchise in the world, is not supporting the console whatsoever.
Konami showing a little support doesn't really matter. They are pretty irrelevant.
Chuck Norris
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Have Nintendo stocks reached a low yet? Feeling like its time to start buying
Anonymous devs says Wii U to be on par with counting on your fingers. Speculation as to whether that includes toes as well.
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Obviously doesn't include toes, as Nintendo shot off both its feet
Sounds like perhaps he is attempting to help set the stage so that his preferred clients will be able to purchase Nintendo stock dirt cheap, either before E3, or possibly before Wii U potentially becomes a huge success. Having a part in helping to drive down Nintendo stock price, as much as possible, before their new hardware launch, can have serious advantages for the smart investor.
I do know that my dad is looking carefully at Nintendos' stock price for his clients. If it then goes beneath a certain value, I know that he will recommend to his clients to buy shares. Exactly how many shares, I have no idea. Patcher purchased Nintendo stock only after the big boom their stock price went through, instead of before. That is why Patcher was able to actually lose money on Nintendo stock, while my dads clients were able to nearly quadruple their investments.
As for the Activision claims, I think him suggesting that simply serves his companies purpose. Anyone who has followed gaming knows that this is about as likely as the American government attempting to do away with all corruption within the federal government. But if they are able to convince a few Nintendo share holders to sell their stock as well as stave off potentially new major investors, lowering its value, then again, I believe it serves their potential overall purpose.
I do know that my dad is looking carefully at Nintendos' stock price for his clients. If it then goes beneath a certain value, I know that he will recommend to his clients to buy shares. Exactly how many shares, I have no idea. Patcher purchased Nintendo stock only after the big boom their stock price went through, instead of before. That is why Patcher was able to actually lose money on Nintendo stock, while my dads clients were able to nearly quadruple their investments.
As for the Activision claims, I think him suggesting that simply serves his companies purpose. Anyone who has followed gaming knows that this is about as likely as the American government attempting to do away with all corruption within the federal government. But if they are able to convince a few Nintendo share holders to sell their stock as well as stave off potentially new major investors, lowering its value, then again, I believe it serves their potential overall purpose.
AndyMoogle
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It will obviously not include toes. Nintendo is always one generation behind.
That's a better response.
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That quote does specifically says gaming though, that is why i was wondering what the 4th iOS device was. But yeah, video and music works more all those devices indeed, so it could be that this is what they mean.
Thats why the campaign for them to drop everything and make mobile games stays far far away from actual numbers, revenue and profit reports. Looking at the numbers illuminates how extremely stupid and unlikely it is. Getting direct quotes from Iwata telling folks to "dream on, it aint happening" after the media has thrown all they can at him, and the stock price has fallen is just salt in the wound.
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Yeah, probably not.
The Hermit
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That being said, the WiiU had th strangest/most underwelming reveal last year. Add the constant rumors that it will be weaker than even current gens and the fact that its competitors will have some kind of gimmick as well its no wonder that some people are having bad feeling towards it....
Because that wasn't soley what happened. It was also re-positioning and readying quality software in the midst of a major earthquake.
Spreading lies and rumours about a company with the sole aim of driving their stock price down is illegal.
Fuck no, fuck never. iOS games are cute distractions that work well on the device, but you cannot play a majority of console/portable games with a pure touchscreen interface. Every time I see a transparent d-pad on my phones screen I want to burn a daycare to the ground.
Grymm, you've left quite an impression in your short time on this board! Never seeing any outcome other than utter doom for Nintendo! I'm actually quite impressed.
While true it can be difficult to prove.
Not sticking to strictly wiimotes makes the WiiU less easy to differentiate, a low spec tablet controller seems like a massive mistake
for the wiiu not to be a failure I think they would need to:
- ditch the tablet
- ensure the system is atleast somewhat more powerful than the ps360
- change the name to wii 2
- emulate sony and ms by actually being supportive of 3rd parties
- $200 price point, max
and even then, this thing will never come close to putting up wii numbers, nintendo has really squandered the wii brand name
for the wiiu not to be a failure I think they would need to:
- ditch the tablet
- ensure the system is atleast somewhat more powerful than the ps360
- change the name to wii 2
- emulate sony and ms by actually being supportive of 3rd parties
- $200 price point, max
and even then, this thing will never come close to putting up wii numbers, nintendo has really squandered the wii brand name
Yeah. But this is a bit blatant.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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i don't understand what the Analyst means by Apple and four screens??
analysis (if you can even call it that) makes baby Jesus want to punch a wall.
analysis (if you can even call it that) makes baby Jesus want to punch a wall.
MadOdorMachine
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Not that surprising about Konami, but I was really hoping for Castlevania and Metal Gear Rising to make it to Wii U. I hope this isn't true. I don't see Activision not supporting Wii U.
test_account
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I can't even imagine what that would cost.
To be fair there hasn't been much of anything positive to say about Nintendo. And never once have I said anything like Nintendoomed or anything of the sort.
Iwata invited the president of EA, recently voted Americas most beloved company (or something like that) out on stage with them last year for a reason.
So if the only reasons this journalist would write this are
committing bear raids to devalue Nintendo stock
being paid off by Nintendo competitors
or Activision wants no part of WiiU because of EA involvement
I'm going to lean towards it's the EA involvement until something shows otherwise.
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