The Formula 1 2012 Season |OT| The Year of the...uh...Platypus?
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So, for those who watched the Sky coverage today, how would you rank it out of 10 overall?
I watched the BBC all this weekend, and I honestly have to give it an 8.5/10. Not 100% on the new lead commentator, and the tech guru is a boring guy unfortunately, but apart from that, I loved it.
I watched the BBC all this weekend, and I honestly have to give it an 8.5/10. Not 100% on the new lead commentator, and the tech guru is a boring guy unfortunately, but apart from that, I loved it.
I think he needs to say that to convince himself so in a way it's good maybe he can get himself in that mind-frame to improve. He should also be pleased that he never crashed into Hamilton. So it's all good, next race target 11th then hopefully by Monaco he can score a point, jokes aside I wish him good luck.
Sleeplessnights
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The pass Mark did on Seb was really good. Last time I was that excited from a pass was Canada last year!
Mercedes almost looked like they don't know how to celebrate.
Mercedes almost looked like they don't know how to celebrate.
If kimi had pitted the moment the tyres dropped and did a hell of a final run on low fuel and new tyres then he may have salvaged a point or two but it would have been more of a chance then falling down the order several seconds off pace. As is they were guaranteed to score no points so should have had a stab.
7/10 at best. Brundle is one of the few positives. BBC is much better.
brotkasten
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Haug didn't even know the way to the podium. :lol
Or whether to give a high, medium or low five ha it was sweet to watch them all though, thoroughly deserved, surprising they managed it but great stuff.
SunhiLegend
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Didn't watch much of the sky footage apart from the race, just about woke up in time for the start. Brundle was awesome as he usually is in the commentary box. Had both the BBC and Sky post race on at the same time but turned sky off as it was getting really boring and they were hardly showing any race footage. On the BBC they show the overtakes, pit stops and other various race footage, with sky they used that big TV thing which is annoying as I want to see the raw footage.
*Massive touch screen TV segment thing*
"So Ant, what is it we're looking at here?"
"Well, clearly we're seeing [driver name] doing something that they do all the time, maybe even getting a bit wide here on the marbles."
"Great stuff."
*End segment*
I didn't watch Sky today, but judging by the two previous races I imagine that's how it went again.
Considering McLaren used to be Mercedes' presence in F1 it's a nice thing to see.
Elvin Atombender
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Great work by Pirelli to make tyres that let teams use different strategies.
Less marbles would be appreciated, the amount being created almost creates a single racing line by the end of the race confining overtaking to DRS straights.
Sleeplessnights
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Pointing out the Mercedes logo on their outfits. Loved it!
Or excellent moments as drivers go wide, losing spots. Works both ways.
brotkasten
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Alonso went wide and lost precious places and points. Less marbles would be great.
Ha
'So ant what are those numbers on the dash telling us'
'Well if we look closer at the dash we can tell how fast the driver is going and how much he is gaining or loosing'
'So numbers on a dash is a good thing, sweet'
In all fainess he is really informative though and always looks excited when he's explaining things, I like ant.
frontieruk
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7/10 the tech coverage is impressive things to improve on
- needs more Natalie
- they need to find something for Georgie to do as she's a fish out of water and looks uncomfortable hosting the Sky pad
- Davidson does a good job but cutting away from a full screen analysis to watch him draw on the screen is annoying, just show the spot he draws we can work out what he's talking about.
I'm not so sure on that, compared to the first race they've improved a lot, they need to cut back on the chatter, though Brundle and Herbert was ok, but generally the team seems to not gel and bar Whitmarsh a lot of the interviewees really don't seem to want to talk to the Sky lead.
basically this needs a bit more style as well.
I'm fine with it, personally.
Myoclonic Jerk
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In a hindsight things could be much easier. I would say he should've pitted as soon as he realised that he's stuck behind Massa
His race was sabotaged by the slow pitstops, 3 critical positions were lost for no reason other than the slow stops
If he didn't lose those positions he wouldn't have been stuck behind Massa, he then might have increased the gap to Alonso and pitted for a third time comfortably
With the right strategy He could've easily got 4th but I don't think he could've gone any higher
SunhiLegend
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brotkasten
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Fine, I won't secretly root for you in the F1 2011 races anymore.
I was watching the live timing during the race and after settling back down after 2 sectors of position losses it was obvious kimi was losing .7s *a sector*, over the rest of the pack challenging for points and that he would be out of the points and falling back very very quickly, at the time I said almost out loud 'pit him now' and was amazed that lotus seemingly settled for a strategy that was seeing kimi falling away from the points massively.
Surprised kimi didnt pit in anyway and simply refuse to leave the pit box until he got some new tyres as it was blindingly obvious that he had no chance as is.
You sometimes have to wonder if the strategy guys have too much info to go through as they always seem to be behind the fans who are looking at a simple live timing screen. Mclaren in particular seem to keep missing the obvious while trying to pull off a strategy that the even the armchair experts can easily see isn't going to work.
Surprised kimi didnt pit in anyway and simply refuse to leave the pit box until he got some new tyres as it was blindingly obvious that he had no chance as is.
You sometimes have to wonder if the strategy guys have too much info to go through as they always seem to be behind the fans who are looking at a simple live timing screen. Mclaren in particular seem to keep missing the obvious while trying to pull off a strategy that the even the armchair experts can easily see isn't going to work.
Myoclonic Jerk
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well, you're right. after he started to lose places they should've reacted immediately. It was impossible for him to keep any position
from 2nd to 14th in 2 laps?
Diprosalic
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oh man i was getting ready to watch the race in 20 min but it's already over lol.
Great race.
I just sadly fell asleep from about lap 15 to lap 40, but the ending was well worth it!
It really sucked for Kimi near the end though.
He needs to return.
I just sadly fell asleep from about lap 15 to lap 40, but the ending was well worth it!
It really sucked for Kimi near the end though.
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He needs to return.
Myoclonic Jerk
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With a calmer head, time to give credit to some drivers:
- Rosberg - It goes without saying. Excellent driver
- Schumi - Was doing very well. What a shame
- Macca boys, and especially Button. If he beats Hamilton next race, can we say he's clearly the superior driver in Macca?
- Webber!! - Chinboy is on fire, last lap overtake was more of a statement than more points. Good job
Overall the race was phenomenal, the last few laps I was going through the champagne menu just in case Kimi is on the podium. Settled with a double shots of whiskey to calm me down
I'm really happy Kimi is back, I didn't get this emotional about a race for some time now. He really makes F1 much more enjoyable to watch (for me)
- Rosberg - It goes without saying. Excellent driver
- Schumi - Was doing very well. What a shame
- Macca boys, and especially Button. If he beats Hamilton next race, can we say he's clearly the superior driver in Macca?
- Webber!! - Chinboy is on fire, last lap overtake was more of a statement than more points. Good job
Overall the race was phenomenal, the last few laps I was going through the champagne menu just in case Kimi is on the podium. Settled with a double shots of whiskey to calm me down
I'm really happy Kimi is back, I didn't get this emotional about a race for some time now. He really makes F1 much more enjoyable to watch (for me)
I cant see how, they were equal today.
3:0 to lewis in qual
1:1 in races with a draw.
Myoclonic Jerk
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When it comes to bagging the points, Jenson somehow always better.
I like Hamilton, but I'm not really sure what's wrong with him since last year.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.....
Myoclonic Jerk
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olore
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Right!!
Right!!
Right!!
Left, no uh right!!
Again this season is shaping up to be something else with so many different cars, teams and drivers competitive. Lets hope it stays like this although I would like to see Buttilton fight it out in the end.
Wonder how long it will be before the friction starts to appear between Button & Hamilton, Hamilton clearly has a massive lead in qualifying and so will feel like he's the faster driver, but Button will feel like he's beaten Lewis on track enough times to consider himself the more likely champion.
You know for a fact that Whitmarsh isn't going to back either one until he absolutely has to.
Has all the makings of another Senna v Prost.
Odd comment considering 3 very consistent and solid drivers from hamilton has him at the top of the table.
Sleeplessnights
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Thanks for that!
There's nothing wrong with him this year, compare this year to last year and he's in a similar sort of place to when he first began his F1 career in 2007, just not as silly. You can't forget that Hamilton would have finished higher up undoubtedly had he not gotten unlucky with the pits in Australia and Malaysia, today he got caught up in traffic the whole race and didn't really have the luxury of any clean air so we saw him having to use all his tyres to get past the traffic so he didn't lose too much time.
Despite Hamilton's awful, awful season last year he still won as many races as Button (ignoring the points for arguments sake), and we can't forget that he beat Button in 2010, scored the most points in the latter half of 2009, won 2008 and finished one point away in 2007. He's also the only driver on the grid to beat two reigning world champions in the same machinery.
Button has beaten Hamilton once so far, and you can't deny that Hamilton was in an awful state last year, so whilst Button was totally on his game (and still is) he had an 'advantage' over Hamilton mentally last year. This year, we can clearly see Hamilton playing the long game whilst lady luck favours Button so far this year (with the exception of Malaysia).
This year is totally poised to show us which McLaren driver is the better driver.
I have a feeling this season is going to be the best in a looong time, three different winners already! I really hope Hamilton gets a win soon, he must be getting a bit frustrated. Also, why the hell do the sauber strategists refuse to do anything but leaving the cars out as long as they can? It almost never pays off, and now that they have genuine pace, they need to run decent strategies.
They did a big-boy three-stopper for Koba, but couldn't pass any of the cars in that hefty Raiko-procession.
The three stoppers mostly came out of the pits behind him and such was the train of cars they all seemed to land in few could utilise free air like they could in the past when cars were no where near as close.
If the train of cars all fighting for the podium weren't always seemingly stuck behind a slower car then the 3 stoppers on fresh tyres would have been further ahead by a slightly more comfortable margin. Alas the train always seemed to be headed up by a guy a second off pace which allow the different strategies to come more in contact with each over.
Also I dont think he was as low as 20th during the race, although I missed the first ten laps so might have missed something there.
Two stops, basically. Had a couple of really good overtakes, though. Chances are that 20th may have been when he pitted earlier than everyone else (I think).
Gentle reminder: I'm still winning in our bet
It's okay, it's a marathon, not a sprint. Come on Frenchy!
Yeah, was a bit confused by Vettel's post-race interview when he said his 2-stopper cost him at the end. I doubt a 3-stopper would have got him into the Top 5.
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