Why? The only way anyone is getting a suspension is if a goalie gets trucked over. Sorry Chicago.
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NHL '12 Playoffs |OT| "The Cup is our destiny this year."
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Why? The only way anyone is getting a suspension is if a goalie gets trucked over. Sorry Chicago.
Pickles the Firecat
Banned
It's not the 80s anymore and I'd like to think we've come a long enough way in our understanding of head trauma and other injuries to make an effort to end this bullshit.
And it's definitely not going to help the image of the game in public.
Flyers or Pens winning the Cup would be awful, or any other team using intimidation for that matter. Elliott Friedman had a great point on the Hotstove yesterday. Teams are doing what Boston did, winning by intimidating the opponent, and getting away with it because the refs and the league are allowing it to happen. It's worse this year. Much worse. Same thing is happening between Ottawa and New York.
Zombie James
Banned
Really want this series to go seven but it's unlikely now 
what exactly crossed the line? not trying to be snarky, interested to hear the opinion.
National TV game on NBC. I expect hammers.
To be fair to Bylsma I think the message that he was sending is that if they play the system they are supposed to play they'll be fine, like they were the majority of the regular season. I think he didn't want to screw with the team's mentality and have them think they have to make major changes in the middle of the playoffs. I think he just wanted them to have faith in the system that made them successful this year without putting too much pressure on them. I think.
This team's reaction in Period 1 was pathetic though. This was almost as bad as the Islander's game. It's pathetic this team keeps getting involved in this garbage.
Brucewaynegretzky credit to you, you wanted the Pens and now your boys got a 3 game lead. You were bang on.
SpectreFire
Member
I think this was a culmination of all the shitty refereeing going on through this entire playoffs.
The officiating so far this post-season has just been downright garbage all around.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Shit I less than an hour to recoup for the Panthers game lol.
smokeandmirrors
Banned
Really want this series to go seven but it's unlikely now
If this went 7 games I think someone would be murdered on the ice by game 7.
How so? There were a few individual players who crossed the line with illegal hits, but I don't see what was so embarrassing about the scrum that ensued.
Wendel Clark
Member
hopefully it's as entertaining........
I've been a hockey fan for most of the 30 years I've been alive. I love hockey. I don't love when Hockey gets a horrible reputation because it's a 60 minute circus of goons fighting each other in a match of payback.
Just because it's "always been like this" doesn't exactly make it right. And I know it's not always like this.
What do you mean by intimidation? Being chippy and cheating a little?
Crazymoogle
Member
Pretty much. When you put away the whistle the players just take it into their own hands and things spiral out of control. I guess that's your "playoff hockey", but not sure how long the league lasts if every game is like this one or the Preds game
sazabirules
Unconfirmed Member
There was more than a few.
Hey what are you doing here
This isn't the 80's. This is 2012. The game should have evolved away from this kind of barnyard bullshit.
apocalidiot
Banned
If this happens, I'm stabbing Shanny in the neck with the nearest object. Not because Shaw's on the Hawks, but because Shanny has been an assclown this post season
Edit: chicken next?
happens once in awhile now. This is part of the sport, whether we choose to acknowledge that fact or not. And while the refs lost control the players are just as bad. I mean Neal was headhunting at the end of the game.
bean breath
Member
Once upon a time, I was a San Jose Sharks fan, but that was another life.
Well said
sazabirules
Unconfirmed Member
The sport will not grow if games like this are shown on tv.
Emotions boiled over. It's not like this happens every game.
:O what
Square Triangle
Member
So salty.
The complete lack of control by the officials.
Players trying to deliver cheapshots for the hell of it.
I could go on but it seems that most people have covered it already.
OVER-RATED!
It's a regional sport. And the sooner people realize that the better.
It's happened in four different series in this playoffs already.
Something is wrong on a league wide level.
As soon as inflicting serious injury on someone takes precedence over winning the game, the line is crossed.
Doesn't exist because fighting has always been part of hockey. It's permanently sealed into the sport's identity, or the NHL's identity. There's always been a little self-policing within games by enforcers, who are there specifically to fight.
Any physical altercations on the court in NBA games are not part of the norm, and that's why people are quick to call NBA players thugs at any sign of a scuffle.
That's my answer, at least. Feel free to correct me, or provide better answers.
CrazedArabMan
Member
I hope you burn
sazabirules
Unconfirmed Member
But it happened in the 80s so that makes it okay right?
wsoxfan1214
Banned
Nothing about that "hit" deserved a suspension.
I expect all Flyers to be suspended and the Pens to get nothing.
Would it even surprise anyone at this point?
Also:
:lol
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Definite suspensions:
Asham (cross-check to the throat)
Neal (2 headhunts on 2 straight shifts)
Should-be suspensions:
Bylsma (lost complete control of the team)
Referee (Not kicking James Neal out after the headhunts, which led to another huge fight)
Asham (cross-check to the throat)
Neal (2 headhunts on 2 straight shifts)
Should-be suspensions:
Bylsma (lost complete control of the team)
Referee (Not kicking James Neal out after the headhunts, which led to another huge fight)
that's not the point people are making.
Fixed.
Anyone saying the actions in this game were "okay" is kidding themselves.
A guy went after Neal's knee. Asham pushed Schenn's face into the ice. Hartnell's hair was pulled. Neal tried taking the head off a player. These things are not "okay." This should not have been allowed to happen.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
The league is now going to become a nationwide joke if they don't do anything to these players. The weak punishment on Weber started it all.
The national media could have a field day with this if they wanted.
The national media could have a field day with this if they wanted.
Future Foundation
Member
Someone just brought something up. What if Pronger was playing in this series?
sazabirules
Unconfirmed Member
Don't forget the cross check to the throat.
CrazedArabMan
Member
All of the Pens players on the ice would be dead.
With all due respect, we're watching playoff hockey. It was like this last year, and the year before that, and the year before that, etc.
Whether you think this stuff has a place in the game is your opinion, but to say that something is wrong this season compared to whatever it is your comparing it to is wrong, IMO.
With that being said, some of the stuff that happened is definitely suspension worthy. It'll be interesting to see how severe Shanahan's punishments are.
dem
Member
Someone would be decapitated by now.