John Blade
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You tell me.
Which Moé Are You?
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You tell me.
Oh please. There's no such thing as 'pure' love. Romanticized bullshit.
maybe not in 3D-love, but the 2D world can safely be idealized.
surely you must have a waifu?
I have no idea what this 2D world is.
I'm not married yet, no. Still looking for the right girl. Last one was a bit of a headcase.
Femmeworth
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I don't think he understands how breasts work.
BlazingDarkness
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Femmeworth
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TheNatural
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you think fire can kill such horrors?
I don't wanna look stupid, but the monstrosity above me is photoshopped right?
nope!
you need to go watch Kanon 2002 right now.
lunarworks
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A lot of what is "moé" are anime/manga tropes that have been around for ages. They've just been distilled and cranked to 11 in the past decade.
watch kanon 2002 and find out!
BlazingDarkness
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Dat chinny chin chin
It's called fish-eyes lol
SentientStone
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So I've just wiki-ed what moé is thanks to this thread, and I have to say that moé is the main reason I quit watching most anime series many years ago and just stick with anime films (thank you Studio Ghibli, Satoshi Kon, etc. for not going moé).
I hate moé. Old school animes have much more appealing style to me (more gritty, or just not 'this'), not this commercialized (for Japan) cutesy crap (not against cute, just moé cute).
I hate moé. Old school animes have much more appealing style to me (more gritty, or just not 'this'), not this commercialized (for Japan) cutesy crap (not against cute, just moé cute).
There have been lots of anime in the past few years that aren't just about cute girls doing cute things. Hell this season alone has so many different anime styles, it's amazing.
John Blade
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Look like I am not the only one here who feel the same way. Unfortunately, the majority of the moe are the problem for this issue. It`s like Japan animated industry have to make this stuff now to keep the moe happy (basically destroy what Animated use to be in the past).
Crash Station
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Uh, Ghibli does plenty of moe stuff.
What the hell is wrong with you?
SentientStone
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The only one I have watched recently was Kaiji which I did enjoy (don't think I even remember seeing any girls in that one, seems only men gamble in Japan or something
).why are you still in this thread?
SentientStone
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Hm, what is moe exactly then?
When I think of moe I think of stuff like this:
Which I often see posted by anime fans here, and with that I think of those exaggerated cute gestures and characteristics that goes along with it.
I don't think I have watched any Ghibli movie that is like that, so perhaps I am getting what moe is wrong.
Femmeworth
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iKeepPlaying
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you think fire can kill such horrors?
I have a fighting game with this girls.
I don't even...
Yeah, kill it with fire.
SentientStone
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It does have lots of exaggerated gestures, but I guess I am fine with that as long as the show is not primarily focused on moe anime girls to appease fans, and that it is not the overall art direction the particular series uses.
John Blade
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I wish they is more anime that have this kind of look at the background. Looking at some Chinese animated work and this one is always something I wish they release here in North America. Shame they only have a mini teaser in Youtube which is still interesting to watch.
Hm, what is moe exactly then?
When I think of moe I think of stuff like this:
Which I often see posted by anime fans here, and with that I think of those exaggerated cute gestures and characteristics that goes along with it.
I don't think I have watched any Ghibli movie that is like that, so perhaps I am getting what moe is wrong.
This season alone has like 5 shows that aren't like this. I hope you are watching them all.
Crash Station
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Ponyo is more moe than Rika.
And even among moe stuff, there should be a certain threshold. Even in something like Cowboy Bebop, there is an exaggerated genki girl, but people are able to forgive that for the rest of the awesome. People should not dismiss something that has moe depending on the context and/or volume. Something like Madoka for example could be seen as moe in design and possibly concept, but as far as content goes, it's about as far from moe as you can get in terms of how the word is commonly perceived.
In other words, it's best to keep an open mind.
SentientStone
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I will try but I still have lots of old stuff I need to watch first which I neglected for years (NieA_7 and Paranoia Agent).
I am fine with Ponyo because she was cute but not in any sexual way and the style is very much different compared to the above image (plus that film was made for very young children specifically). Even sexualized I am fine with (I enjoyed the new Eva movies and just watched that series last year believe it or not), just the particular style that I posted above which I just cannot get into no matter what. The content / context will need to be drastically different thematically for me to enjoy the above cute-style. The problem is that the visual style of an anime should define what content is going to be expected coming from that particular anime, unless the intent is for a parody or something. I would not expect an anime to be in the above artistic style to suit me in terms of content, for example, because the style itself should not be used if it is for anything more serious (which is what I usually enjoy watching).
Because you don't look hard enough. Stop blaming this mostly imaginary moe plague for your own laziness.
Because you don't look hard enough. Stop blaming this mostly imaginary moe plague for your own laziness.
More helpfully, you can always ask for recommendations in the seasonal anime thread, where you'll get more than enough posts that prove "moe" is hardly some all-encompassing plague.
Also about the whole "moe" plague thing - there is good moe and there is bad moe. I mean there's nothing wrong with a character having moe characteristics as long as it isn't the main point of the character.
Ehh, a lot of recent stuff that has sold extremely well, doesn't even have any panty shots or follow anything close to a "pantyshot quota". Not that they are great shows, mind you.
InfiniteNine
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Hm, what is moe exactly then?
When I think of moe I think of stuff like this:
Which I often see posted by anime fans here, and with that I think of those exaggerated cute gestures and characteristics that goes along with it.
I don't think I have watched any Ghibli movie that is like that, so perhaps I am getting what moe is wrong.
Rika is pretty moe until she gets all dark and
starts stabbing herself in the neck.
qq you can't win. I'm getting all of Texas GAF on my side.
John Blade
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Because you don't look hard enough. Stop blaming this mostly imaginary moe plague for your own laziness.
I did but it`s tons out of tons of anime that is targeting at Moe. You gotta literally spend quite a long time before you can look for one that is decent and something you can watch it. Maybe this years it might be a bit better but that`s not saying much
I might check the GAF anime topic for any serious anime type show.
No, you really don't! I could go on a longwinded rant but I'll just take the easy way out and say visit the anime thread in community. We are, surprisingly, not a horde of pervert moe masturbation monsters. You ask for something and we will likely give you a title or several that fit(s) your specifications within minutes.I did but it`s tons out of tons of anime that is targeting at Moe. You gotta literally spend quite a long time before you can look for one that is decent and something you can watch it. Maybe this years it might be a bit better but that`s not saying much
We (well some of us) also discuss things beyond "aww man that shit was so kawaii/10" and talk about staff, animation, the history of anime, styles among directors, styles among animators, etc. We're a good place! ...most of the time.
I did but it`s tons out of tons of anime that is targeting at Moe. You gotta literally spend quite a long time before you can look for one that is decent and something you can watch it. Maybe this years it might be a bit better but that`s not saying much
Ehh anime is like one of the easiest mediums to find good stuff for I mean - Look at seasonal charts > filter out all the shit with bad art styles > check out stuff that looks semi-decent / interesting > check staff > check what other people are looking forward to (to make sure you aren't missing anything) > rinse repeat. At least unlike say books, films and video games you can theoretically keep up with everything!
I mean this current season alone has - lupin the third : the woman called fujiko mine, tsuritama, kids on the slope and then afterwards - space brothers, mysterious girlfriend x, saint seiya omega, fate/zero s2, eureka seven ao etc. Not sure how any anime fan can complain about the state of anime right now, until the next shitty season comes, then it will be justified!
Adam Blade
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John Blade said:
Those types of things aren't representative of moe at all, brah. That's just good old fanservice.
And there can only be one Blade here in this part of town.
Indeed, you aren't trying to find the good stuff anymore.
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