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What time this airing? Am I going to have to wake up tommorrow and block tumblr?

/edit holy sheet,
Zuko be alive and sheet
 
Any guesses of what our next trolling moment from the creators will be? Shipping trolling? Zuko's mom again?! Amon's identity? Toph's husband (
if its Sokka, I swear I will start believing in a divine being
) what?
 
Mumei said:
What do you even mean by "people project onto it," anyway? It seems to me like a part of the process of making meaning of any piece of fiction and seeing complexity in it involves that process of extrapolating the limited information we're given. And while it is possible to read or view anything on a shallow, surface level and argue that it is all right there on the screen (or page, as it were) and argue that anything else is wishful extrapolation, I don't see how you can argue that and not apply that to any attempts to find deeper meaning in any form of fiction.
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Mumei said:
You probably just missed it in the shuffle (or forgot), but I was wondering if you could clarify this for me.
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I just hate it when people try to read the characters minds. Like "so-and-so goes through this this and this, he did this because of this" and they never EXPLICITLY (even though it can be heavily implied even, most of the time it isnt so heavy handed) say what the characters motivations are, you need to recognize that you are consuming a well written piece of dialogue and not something that is complex.

For example, There's never any exploration into anyone in the fire nation being anything but the "bad guys". It gets mentioned a bit with Jeong Jeong, but after that you don't see him ever again and it's always assumed firebender = evil and it's never explored.

Remember the episode where Zuko is traveling alone? He rescues this little kid 2 or 3 times and the kid wants him to stay when his dad leaves for the war. But the second he firebends: bad guy, get the hell out of here. Someone even yells he isn't even part of the fire nation anymore. There's no reflection from anyone, he's a bad guy because he shoots fire from his hands.

It's a kids show, there are bad guys who are just bad, and then Zuko. Zukos arc isn't as great as people make it out to be either. The motivation behind going back to the Fire Nation was dumb, they developed him too quickly and then had to reign it back in, but the recovery where he realizes he made a mistake was much better.

I guess you could say it's complex, for a kids show. But that's not saying much, and that's not why the show is good.

tl;dr I'm saying that complex characters only really exist in books.
 
LAUGHTREY said:
Remember the episode where Zuko is traveling alone? He rescues this little kid 2 or 3 times and the kid wants him to stay when his dad leaves for the war. But the second he firebends: bad guy, get the hell out of here. Someone even yells he isn't even part of the fire nation anymore. There's no reflection from anyone, he's a bad guy because he shoots fire from his hands.
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Uh, that's in-universe expectations and stereotyping as compared to reader/viewer considerations. The show itself isn't saying all firebenders are bad, it's just a clear and realistic reaction from the characters within the show.
 
Qwomo said:
Episode 3 today? Or next week? I'm scared to check the past couple pages in case of spoilers.
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TenshiOni said:
Yeah, I'd also like to know.

Last week was the official premiere, right? Did they air episodes 1 & 2 last week?
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Last week was 1&2, today is 3.

Also, check the OP!

Wiseblade said:
Airing times

Episode 1 - 11:00 EDT, 14th April 2012
Episode 2 - 11:30 EDT, 14th April 2012
Episode 3 - 11:00 EDT, 21st April 2012
Episode 4 - 11:00 EDT, 28th April 2012
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LAUGHTREY said:
I just hate it when people try to read the characters minds. Like "so-and-so goes through this this and this, he did this because of this" and they never EXPLICITLY (even though it can be heavily implied even, most of the time it isnt so heavy handed) say what the characters motivations are, you need to recognize that you are consuming a well written piece of dialogue and not something that is complex.

For example, There's never any exploration into anyone in the fire nation being anything but the "bad guys". It gets mentioned a bit with Jeong Jeong, but after that you don't see him ever again and it's always assumed firebender = evil and it's never explored.
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What about the second episode of the third season? Were the kids in the Fire Nation school evil?

What about the third episode of the third season? Are the people in the fishing village evil?

What about the fourth episode of the third season? Was Piandao, a fire nation citizen, evil?

What about the fifth episode of the third season? Were the teenagers on Fire Island evil?

What about the sixth episode of the third season? You know, the exchange at the end of the episode:

The Avatar and the Firelord said:
Toph: It's like these people (Fire Nation people) are born bad.

Aang: No, that's wrong. I don't think that was the point of what Roku showed me at all.

Sokka: (confused) Then what was the point?

Aang: Roku was just as much Fire Nation as Sozin was, right If anything, their story proves anyone's capable of great good and great evil. Everyone, even the Fire Lord and the
Fire Nation have to be treated like they're worth giving a chance.
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Remember the episode where Zuko is traveling alone? He rescues this little kid 2 or 3 times and the kid wants him to stay when his dad leaves for the war. But the second he firebends: bad guy, get the hell out of here. Someone even yells he isn't even part of the fire nation anymore. There's no reflection from anyone, he's a bad guy because he shoots fire from his hands.
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That's a realistic depiction of a people who have seen only one side - the terrible side of the Fire Nation - and a natural consequence of war. You see the other side as the enemy, as non-human, as monsters. The episode also conveys the notion that there are evil people in the Earth Kingdom too; the bullies were parasites who were abusing their powers. Examples of non-Fire Nation people committing terrible deeds are scattered throughout the second season: General Fong, Xin Fu, one of the sandbenders, and Long Feng.

tl;dr I'm saying that complex characters only really exist in books.
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Are there no complex characters in films? None in non-kid television shows? To pick a couple of GAF (and my own) favourites, is the Wire a simple show? What about DS9? Are there no shades of grey, no subtlety portrayed in the characters on the show? Is complexity in characterization limited to the medium of literature?

I don't believe so.
 
Certainly literature has a leg up in that it's easier to get directly into character's heads (both in the sense that it's a widely accepted practice to directly convey a character's thoughts to readers, and that it only requires words, which are relatively inexpensive). But to interpret that as literature being the only medium capable of complex characterisation is a huge logical leap.
 
If there were hypothetically someone who didn't have cable who wanted to theoretically watch a livestream of the episode online, would this hypothetical person have any chance of doing so?
 
jdogmoney said:
If there were hypothetically someone who didn't have cable who wanted to theoretically watch a livestream of the episode online, would this hypothetical person have any chance of doing so?
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If you can't (legally) watch it live, I'd honestly just wait until iTunes puts up the 1080p version tomorrow. Episodes 1 & 2 looked glorious in HD :D
 
Speculation:
Amon is Mako and Bolin's father.
Calling it now.

Oh shit, Amon knows
spiritbending
?!

EDIT: Yep, holy crap.
 
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