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EGM: Final Fantasy Versus XIII a No Show at E3
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Well there's the emo all-black silver-haired is-it-a-he-or-a-she protagonist that sits on a throne with one hand holding up his/her dainty porcelain face all sad and "woe is me, 'tis a dark day for technoland." For one. I remember when they revealed there's an actual world beyond the city with green fields and shit it seemed so out of place given all the glass and grit they had showed prior. I did like the Amano art used in a stained glass window or clock or something in one screenshot. And I suppose it's more thematically cohesive than the futuristic --> prehistoric --> etc melting pot of FFXIII. But meh, getting tired of FF's shtick. All feels the same these days.
bluedeviltron
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Rockstar: save us from this terrible, terrible E3.
Bitch, we gettin' Pikmin 3. This E3 needs no savin'.
And Eternal Darkness 2, BELIEVE.
â Narayan
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Heh.
Appollowexx
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Still pretty sure we'll see a new trailer for this at the Sony conference with a spring 2013 release date at the end. We shall see I suppose.
Haunted
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I actually started typing something up but it got too long and was already ridiculous so I scrapped it.
Thirteen Guitar Hero (and spinoff) games - AC, Mass Effect, Gears of War and Uncharted all starting and ending their trilogies was enough to drive it home for me, tbh.
mysteriousmage09
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It's good to want things.
Rahxephon91
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I really get tired of this complaint. Are people blind or does having long hair really just make anyone look like a girl? I'm not sure how anyone could be confused with Noctis' being a girl or a man. His face is obviously of a young man. Oh noes, he is a bit pretty. Welcome to FF!
An emo? Ok, going off what? Emo is a lame term that basicly means nothing. Nomura has said if anything he will not be anything close to a "emo" character and the trailers hardly give that impression. The character never looks like he is going woe is me, no if anything he looks like a character who is very annoyed and just wants to get shit done.
And really using the emo just seems dumb. Even XIII did'nt have emo/ "woe is me characters". Or is showing any emotion emo? The term is almost as bad as duebro.
The character if anything looks annoyed.
That really dosen't have a"oh I'm so sad" expression. I mean if thats what they were going for, thats pretty badly presented. Shouldnt his head be down and not looking at the camera?
Appollowexx
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How exactly? Those games were made by multiple developers. Versus 13 wasn't even a real game until a couple of years back.
With Ubisoft specifically on the mainline AC games (which is 4 games at this point) there is a reason they can push out so many: they use a ton of people. Have you ever watched the ending credits for an AC game? They are like 20 to 30 minutes long. I don't know the inner workings of Square but I am pretty sure they don't farm their games out all across the world letting multiple studios work on tiny parts of them. If they did I am pretty sure they could push out a new major game every year.
For CoD... I really shouldn't have to explain it but every single one of those games uses the same engine and are worked on by 2 different developers (with others pitching in elsewhere iirc). They are essentially the same game with new locales and very minor tweaks to their formula. The thing to keep in mind is each one actually takes about 2 years to create. Which guess what, SE using the same engine/characters/combat etc managed to push out 13-2 in almost exactly 2 years after FF13. They could keep doing that forever if they wanted, but Versus 13 is an entirely different game.
Comparing it to the AC and CoD games specifically is like apples and oranges.
tl:dr - SE, Assassin's Creed, and Call of Duty are all different I am amazed people are trying to compare them all.
Looks emo to me, along with the shots in the trailer of him staring at his reflection in the limo window, etc. Why does every Japanese boy want to be a feminine Neo with copy/paste anime hair? Ah well. At least the other character, the one that's definitely a girl, with the light brown hair, at least she seems a bit more palatable in a "girl you might know" sort of way.
That really dosen't have a"oh I'm so sad" expression. I mean if thats what they were going for, thats pretty badly presented. Shouldnt his head be down and not looking at the camera?
Really, at this point, shouldn't they just turn this into FFXV?
Tylahedras
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Sigh* this game is going to suck when they finally release it...
Rahxephon91
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So basically emo is anything not dudebro. Gotcha.
True. I started looking through films, Daniel Craig's Bond films were about the only noteable contribution in the timeframe.
Justin Beiber's music career, almost all of Lionel Messi's senior career (actually began in the '05-'06 season), the entire history of the Oklahoma City Thunder....
Appollowexx
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If it were to show up at the MS conference then it wouldn't be on the list anyway - it would be a ''surprise reveal'' kept under wraps. As I said it will show as a trailer either at Sony's conference or as an announcement at the MS conference. Or not... but I keep optimistic.
Relaxed Muscle
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Look at the definition of emo, for good's sake.
Also, if you want to be masculine you should cut your hair short? really?....
It's worthy of pointing out that the character has been clearly redesigned since that photo. His hair is a darker color + matted down more (constantly looks like he just got out of the shower, which bothers me) and his clothes no longer look like some insane Matrix outfit. Just watch the actual gameplay trailer from last year.
I find the current design to be pretty great in all honesty, I like his new outfit.
Go_Ly_Dow
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Keep thy faith!
Meccanical
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There is always the possibility of surprises.
Until then I'm just gonna wait for TGS.
Until then I'm just gonna wait for TGS.
Emo, as in he looks like a dainty depressed goth. Maybe that's not the conventional use of the word, but now you know how I'm using it, at least. But apparently his look is completely different now, so this may all be null and void. If so, my bad. And of course long hair doesn't feminize someone.
You might try using it correctly.
Haunted
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What someone else posted about no iPhone and Twitter not existing (and Facebook having like 10 million users) was pretty good for things outside of the gaming industry, I thought.
Seven Force
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I was talking moreso about how much time has passed since the announcement rather than Ubisoft & Activision's output since then. That probably wasn't clear in my original post, sorry.
How about the development and production of Marvel's Cinematic Universe?
That's:
2008:
Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
2010:
Iron Man 2
2011:
Thor
Captain America
2012:
The Avengers
Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 are also on track for release next year.
We've also seen 4 Harry Potter films and the entire Twilight Saga (essentially) as well since 2006.
Blast Processing
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You can't call out someone for using one entirely subjective and general label while you use another.
You're also attacking a straw man, here.
Finally, the guy's name means night in Latin. If that's not melodramatic, or perhaps "emo," than what is?
Yep, I suck at picking examples :-D. These are much better!
Meccanical
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My name means "Gift from God" that doesn't make me a religious zealot.
Fez 2
Why is Noctis feeling so sad all the time, anyway?Guy should take a vacation, or get out in the sun, or something. Stop watching Lifetime movies and listening to old Rob Dougan music.
Doesn't look sad to me. He looks bored.
Death? Blood? Scars? Hopelessness? Iuno...night is emo now? lol.
Also, wouldn't confuse Square's naming conventions with character traits. Lightning, Cloud, Squall, etc, don't really have much to do with their character.
Who said he's sad? His look could be that of constant boredom since his game isn't complete.
edit: glad to see someone else thinks he is bored and not sad.
You can practically hear the depressed "le sigh" in that limo shot.
Wait. Maybe he's so sad all the time because he's bored...?
Why is Noctis feeling so sad all the time, anyway?
He's had a long enough vacation... time for him to get back to work!!!
You can practically hear whatever preconceived notions you have about the character.
It's true, he might be a radiant ray of sunshine in the final game. Maybe the stuff they've shown us so far is some part of the game where's he's all mopey over someone's death or something. Hmm. Poor guy.
Yeah that's how he looks to me. I don't know how you can get sad or emo from the pictures posted here.
So it's either emo or happy? There's no medium?
Rahxephon91
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I think I can, since I just did.
It's hard to refute anything since I'm not sure what makes something or someone emo or really why the character looks emo when we really don't know much about the character. I'm not even sure we are all on the same page of what emo means. It seems from this entire thing emo means showing any emotion that is not happy or overly macho, because really the character dosen't seem to be acting sad, which is what I would assume what people think emo means. Even though I also think thats stupid.
Hmm? I'm not sure what this has do with anything. So is emo now melodrama? Well Gears 2 had a melodramatic scene, does that make it emo? And his name follows a traditional FF name pattern, but I guess they are all emo now to. So I'm not really following with what you are saying here. Please define what emo means. Because having a name like that dosent strike me as anything emo.
Guy looks like he cries himself to sleep in a Hot Topic store. Does he need to be depicted with the usual heavyhanded anime portrayal of watery eyes for him to seem sad? Hell no. Again, the limo shot: You can practically hear the world's smallest violin. I can only imagine what poetry he's drafting up in his mind to write in a cryptic Facebook musing. But maybe in the final game it'll make sense in context. Assuming there is a final game, and this isn't vaporware. Maybe they're saving it for TGS...
You see what you want.
Go_Ly_Dow
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