I've never played Def Jam. I see that it was developed by Aki. Now I'm contemplating whether or not I should order it.
Agreed. I feel exactly the same way. I'm hoping the Wii U reels me back into Nintendo games.
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I've never played Def Jam. I see that it was developed by Aki. Now I'm contemplating whether or not I should order it.
Agreed. I feel exactly the same way. I'm hoping the Wii U reels me back into Nintendo games.
Dion Blaster
Member
The N64 has an incredibly underrated lineup as some here have already listed.
The crazy thing is how cultural some of those games were. Goldeneye 007 and Mario Kart 64 were basically THE games everyone played at get togethers. Smash Bros, Wave Race, and Mario Party were also super popular.
Ocarina of Time and Mario 64 were complete revolutions in the gaming world. Star Fox 64 was a really quirky game that was just released at the most perfect time and everyone thought it was fun. Banjo-Kazooie and Tony Hawk were crazy good as well.
N64 didn't have the variety of the PS1 but it certainly had the most memorable multi and single player games of the gen. Which was perfect for everyone except the most hard core of hard core gamers. Kart and 007 took up enough hours for an entire generation lol
The crazy thing is how cultural some of those games were. Goldeneye 007 and Mario Kart 64 were basically THE games everyone played at get togethers. Smash Bros, Wave Race, and Mario Party were also super popular.
Ocarina of Time and Mario 64 were complete revolutions in the gaming world. Star Fox 64 was a really quirky game that was just released at the most perfect time and everyone thought it was fun. Banjo-Kazooie and Tony Hawk were crazy good as well.
N64 didn't have the variety of the PS1 but it certainly had the most memorable multi and single player games of the gen. Which was perfect for everyone except the most hard core of hard core gamers. Kart and 007 took up enough hours for an entire generation lol
But seriously, the wii was awesome.
SMG 1
SMG 2
LoZ TP
LoZ SS
World of Goo
MM9
FFCC:MLK
SSBB
Xenoblade
Metroid Trilogy/Corruption
Kirby's EY
Kirby RDL
NSMBWii
DKCR
Punch Out
Boom Blox 1 & 2
Zack and Wiki
Little King Story
Tatsunoko vs Capcom
Sin and Punishment 2
Super Paper Mario
MH Tri
Rhythm Heaven Fever
No More Heroes 1
No More Heroes 2
Goldeneye
Madworld
Warioware
MKWii
Muramasa
A Boy and his Blob
Last Story
Trauma Team
Trauma Center:SO
Lost Winds
HotD:O
Red Steel 2
Excitetruck
Excitebots
Rune Factory
Silent Hill:SM
Metroid:OM
Endless Ocean
Sonic Colors
Warioland
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close to) scores of 80 and above. The Wii was awesome (though admittedly not a system geared towards all audiences)
SMG 1
SMG 2
LoZ TP
LoZ SS
World of Goo
MM9
FFCC:MLK
SSBB
Xenoblade
Metroid Trilogy/Corruption
Kirby's EY
Kirby RDL
NSMBWii
DKCR
Punch Out
Boom Blox 1 & 2
Zack and Wiki
Little King Story
Tatsunoko vs Capcom
Sin and Punishment 2
Super Paper Mario
MH Tri
Rhythm Heaven Fever
No More Heroes 1
No More Heroes 2
Goldeneye
Madworld
Warioware
MKWii
Muramasa
A Boy and his Blob
Last Story
Trauma Team
Trauma Center:SO
Lost Winds
HotD:O
Red Steel 2
Excitetruck
Excitebots
Rune Factory
Silent Hill:SM
Metroid:OM
Endless Ocean
Sonic Colors
Warioland
All average edit
close to) scores of 80 and above. The Wii was awesome (though admittedly not a system geared towards all audiences)Agent Unknown
Member
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Not meant to be an affront on your stance- I just couldn't help myself. 
In the interest of relevance, though, I agree with you.
In the interest of relevance, though, I agree with you.
(╯°益°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Getting the word out about upcoming games is easy. "Hey, we know you like this cuz you played it, here's a trailer of this game coming out later this year."
Done.
Like I said, the only thing left is their opinion. And well.... considering what we see from them in this regard, no loss. I don't think the industry press should disappear, but it doesn't need to exist at the level it does now. One or two writers at currently established news agencies is all we'd need if such a thing comes to pass, and I'm all for it.
Also, a thought on the EA being ripe for a buyout thing....
Does anyone think that the publisher-developer dynamic will change? With smartphone game development in full force and taking a LOT of talent that was bound for this industry and placing it outside the current business model, I have this feeling that the publishing powerhouses will end up in the future just being the middleman, with developers holding IPs and getting most of the gross revenue. It's really the only way for the industry to keep its talent, and when and if EA tanks, that future will become a lot more present. There will still be internal developers at certain publishers, but I think the creators of content will hold more power, just like you see in certain aspects of the movie industry.
If I could bring back any game from the SNES era, it would be Actraiser.
With the sim mode.
But I don't trust SE with it.
I wish we still had quality Wrestling titles like the Aki ones. The closest we got was Day of Reckoning and THQ killed that off for SvR
Are they fun if you're not really into wrestling?
lol, I like TP on wii more than GC :3
Yup. I used to play with friends who never were into wrestling. We always had a blast.
I don't know if No Mercy still holds up to today's standards, but I would look into Day of Reckoning 2. I still play it to this day. WWE All Stars was pretty decent too, but it could have been better.
Agent Unknown
Member
But seriously, the wii was awesome.
SMG 1
SMG 2
LoZ TP
LoZ SS
World of Goo
MM9
FFCC:MLK
SSBB
Xenoblade
Metroid Trilogy/Corruption
Kirby's EY
Kirby RDL
NSMBWii
DKCR
Punch Out
Boom Blox 1 & 2
Zack and Wiki
Little King Story
Tatsunoko vs Capcom
Sin and Punishment 2
Super Paper Mario
MH Tri
Rhythm Heaven Fever
No More Heroes 1
No More Heroes 2
Goldeneye
Madworld
Warioware
MKWii
Muramasa
A Boy and his Blob
Last Story
Trauma Team
Trauma Center:SO
Lost Winds
HotD:O
Red Steel 2
Excitetruck
Excitebots
Rune Factory
Silent Hill:SM
Metroid:OM
Endless Ocean
Sonic Colors
Warioland
All average edit
Stripped. The Emperor's New Clothes are showing and the N64 just lost its nostalgia mantle cuz this list is awesome.
Freezie KO
Banned
As someone that focuses mainly on first party stuff, the Wii was very good for me.
This post makes me kinda sad for gaming as a medium. A plethora of fun titles are just going to be left to be forgotten.
With cinema, there's a very concerted effort to put all the old titles on the new hardware (VHS, DVD, Blu Ray, digital). But with games, because of the constant refreshes of hardware and different interface requirements needed to play certain games, we're never going to get this.
Imagine if all of Nintendo's DS/3DS games are lost to time because they give up the dual screen format in 10 years.
This post makes me kinda sad for gaming as a medium. A plethora of fun titles are just going to be left to be forgotten.
With cinema, there's a very concerted effort to put all the old titles on the new hardware (VHS, DVD, Blu Ray, digital). But with games, because of the constant refreshes of hardware and different interface requirements needed to play certain games, we're never going to get this.
Imagine if all of Nintendo's DS/3DS games are lost to time because they give up the dual screen format in 10 years.
list wars, I love it.
I'm definitely on N64's side. Now, I can even point to Nintendo to make my case. Too much "width", not enough "depth"!
And although Wii had more good games than Gamecube, I'd take Wind Waker, Melee, THPS3 and RE4 over its entire library (Galaxy 2 the exception) in a heartbeat.
I'm definitely on N64's side. Now, I can even point to Nintendo to make my case. Too much "width", not enough "depth"!
And although Wii had more good games than Gamecube, I'd take Wind Waker, Melee, THPS3 and RE4 over its entire library (Galaxy 2 the exception) in a heartbeat.
Thread going in circles again. And OMFG, LIST WARS. If this is still happening when I wake up tomorrow, I'm totally gonna peace out.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I played both the first and second Def Jam games and actually prefer the first despite the second being more ambitious but all I can say is I am not the biggest hiphop/rap fan(though I am selective more than disliking the genre of music) but it was the same Aki quality.
Just amazing gameplay/engine and really a solid looking title.
The finishing moves were really well done.
While they are neat, the game was not built for pointer controls thus making it an inferior experience to the original.
And for me, GC>N64>Wii games wise.
yeah I guess
but why didn't we get a new Resident Evil with the RE4 Wii controls? RE4 will always be a GC game in my mind. Maybe the controls are a little better on the Wii... but it doesn't really add to its library.
TheExplodingHead
Banned
This is a sacrilege.
I personally think the GCN version was and always will be the end all be all of RE4. Although I bought both.
I loved the gamecube so much. RE4 was easily my favorite game of last gen. Overall, I enjoyed the Wii more, but it's tough to match the cream of the crop between the two. I loved SS a lot more than WW. Double Dash is better than MK:Wii. SMG is tied with the original Starcraft as my second favorite game of all time. I've never played anything quite like FF:CC, but I can say the same for Little King's StoryZack and Wiki (LKS was great too though). Melee over Brawl definitely, though I still enjoy brawl a lot. Prime over Corruption. Put over 200hrs into Tri. Man. Good times, all of them.
You really make them sound like great games... Finding a copy is probably hard these days though.
Speaking of the GC's lineup, I'd say that it was better than the Wii's as well. At least it got most of the multiplats along with Nintendo's stellar 1st and 2nd party output.
What are you talking about?
Yes, it was a port - but it controlled flawlessly. Pin-point accuracy and overall a good feedback. The Wii version is easily the best in my opinion; forget the shitty PC and PS2 ports, and even the original on GCN isn't as good as the Wii version.
I swear by god this would have become a standard control mechanism if the Wii wasn't so weak.
First time I've ever heard of much better control making a game inferior to an identical one with worse control...
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Maybe he meant the pointer controls made the game too easy.
They're fun if you have friends to play with similar to how Brawl is fun when you're playing with multiple people. They're better games than SvR trash THQ feeds us now.
Ah I'm gonna have to look into these games. I'm sure it should be fairly cheap on ebay.
The Xtortionist
Member
best games ever according to me
1. re4
2. metroid prime
3. super metroid
4. f-zero gx
5. rollercoaster tycoon
oh look, 3 of those are on gamecube
gamecube=the best
list wars
This is a sacrilege.
I personally think the GCN version was and always will be the end all be all of RE4. Although I bought both.
So the GCN version is better than the version with better control and extra content from the PS2 version?
TheExplodingHead
Banned
Or maybe he meant the aiming in the GCN version took practice, timing and patience to pull off with finesse, which was how it was designed. He could have also meant the laser sights were much more tasteful and realized visually than that crappy pointer circle on-screen at all times...
Yes.
No, the controls themselves are not the issue. In fact they are perfect. The problem, as I mentioned, is that the game is not designed for these type of controls. They make the game extremely easy because all enemies are designed around someone aiming with an analog. It's the same reason why Prime 1&2 are not better games with Wii controls.
It really didn't overall though. Go to GR, filter out the games with less than 10 reviews and you'll see that Wii has 100 games over 80% while GC has around 120.
The game still offers enough challenges on higher difficulties. And since when is it a bad thing when a game gets better controls? It's not Duck Hunt with the remote , it's still RE4 where you have to watch out that enemies don't flank you or fuck you up from behind.
RE4 Wii >>>>>>>>>> RE4 GCN
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I don't know, I'll take ideal controls that make the game easier over good ones that make them more challenging but that's me and it's a tough call.
I didn't get the Resident Evil Wii version because those assholes at Eurogamer(I had to make a quick decision on the spot and chose to read their review) said it was bad but for me, Prime and Prime 2 were revelations with the Wii control setup.
I remember dreams being crushed
Yeah, one of Capcom's biggest lies in the end :lol
But that was fucking crazy back then
Smiles and Cries
Member
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
But seriously, the wii was awesome.
SMG 1
SMG 2
LoZ TP
LoZ SS
World of Goo
MM9
FFCC:MLK
SSBB
Xenoblade
Metroid Trilogy/Corruption
Kirby's EY
Kirby RDL
NSMBWii
DKCR
Punch Out
Boom Blox 1 & 2
Zack and Wiki
Little King Story
Tatsunoko vs Capcom
Sin and Punishment 2
Super Paper Mario
MH Tri
Rhythm Heaven Fever
No More Heroes 1
No More Heroes 2
Goldeneye
Madworld
Warioware
MKWii
Muramasa
A Boy and his Blob
Last Story
Trauma Team
Trauma Center:SO
Lost Winds
HotD:O
Red Steel 2
Excitetruck
Excitebots
Rune Factory
Silent Hill:SM
Metroid:OM
Endless Ocean
Sonic Colors
Warioland
All average edit
And if you hate motion controls then for the most part the Wii was a great disappointment. Like you said, it was for a particular audience.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
At least we had dreams. And three out of five great games is not bad. With Wii, outside of the launch period we never got a moment of hardcore hype for the system. There was a good two+ years in Gamecube's life where excitement for present and future games was nonstop.
BlackNMild2k1
Member
He was super excited about that when he posted it, and we were talking about it just before he posted it on the site. It came from an actual dev, but that's about as much as I can say about the source, other than what I've already said.
But that same source has also commented on Epic's comments from yesterday too
dev in response to the possibility that UE4 may not come to Wii U said:
So how ever you wish to take the info, with or without salt... or perhaps not at all, E3 should be really good this year. One that I'm sure I will never forget at least.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
Fuuuuuck. Stop making the wait longer.
RE4 Wii is a testament to good controls making a great game even better.
If you disagree... well... you're entitled to your opinion. Even if it's wrong.
Don't you dare fucking over hype me, man....man, don't you dare...
...don't...do it...AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I read it as Wii U will run the UE5(no typo) engine but that's me...
E3 is so close, yet so far. Taking it with a grain of salt, but I'm hyped.
BlackNMild2k1
Member
Maybe it's an all new engine made just for Wii U?
Epic's RU4Real Engine
"It will blow you away"
exclusively for Nintendo's Wii U
Epic's RU4Real Engine
"It will blow you away"
exclusively for Nintendo's Wii U
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Don't you dare fucking over hype me, man....man, don't you dare...
...don't...do it...AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Basically how I feel right now.
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