BattleMonkey
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Mossberg 500 is nice n cheap
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Mossberg 500 is nice n cheap
Skel1ingt0n
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First time lurking this thread.
I currently live with my single mother, but will be moving here mildly soon. While we live in a decent neighborhood in a fairly safe city, I'd still prefer that she be protected in the case of a robbery/assault/etc. I know very little about guns, and have never owned one myself - and have only used them a few times for hunting - but have nothing against those that choose to embrace their right to carry. And I'm fairly sure my mom would feel comfortable with the idea if I got her something small, easy to use, and took her to a shooting range a few times with it and making sure she was comfortable using it.
Anyway, that brings me to my questions. Recommendations for a small, easily-locked-away-in-a-drawer, handgun for an older woman? Little kickback as possible, extremely safe and easy to use? Preferably as cheap as possible without "cheaping out."
I know a lot of people recommend a shotgun; but that straight-up isn't happening. My mother would never, ever go for it. She just wouldn't be comfortable, period. So that's out. To be honest, I'd wager there's a .0001% chance she'll ever even need to use it; but I'd be more comfortable if she had it.
Thanks!
I currently live with my single mother, but will be moving here mildly soon. While we live in a decent neighborhood in a fairly safe city, I'd still prefer that she be protected in the case of a robbery/assault/etc. I know very little about guns, and have never owned one myself - and have only used them a few times for hunting - but have nothing against those that choose to embrace their right to carry. And I'm fairly sure my mom would feel comfortable with the idea if I got her something small, easy to use, and took her to a shooting range a few times with it and making sure she was comfortable using it.
Anyway, that brings me to my questions. Recommendations for a small, easily-locked-away-in-a-drawer, handgun for an older woman? Little kickback as possible, extremely safe and easy to use? Preferably as cheap as possible without "cheaping out."
I know a lot of people recommend a shotgun; but that straight-up isn't happening. My mother would never, ever go for it. She just wouldn't be comfortable, period. So that's out. To be honest, I'd wager there's a .0001% chance she'll ever even need to use it; but I'd be more comfortable if she had it.
Thanks!
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Glock 26. Beretta Storm PX4. Springfield XD compact. Kahr K8 compact. Smith & Wesson Bodyguard .380 pistol. Ruger LCP. NAA Guardian. Taurus Millenium Pro 111
What this man said. Has she ever fired a weapon? Make sure along with a weapon you get her some training. This thing is to protect your life learn to use it and take care of it.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Oops, I meant Kahr K9 Compact.
SuicideUZI
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I'm no expert, but if she wants something small and least amount of kickback as possible I would recommend something that takes a .380 since its a smaller bullet than a 9mm and they tend to be small enough that you can carry them in your pocket, like one of these Taurus 738 TCP or Ruger LCP:
or a 9mm that has a steel frame. most of the sub-compact 9mm pistols have a polymer frame which is going to have a lot more felt re-coil than a full size 9mm or one with a steel frame. I would say the Kahr MK9 but its probably a little to expensive:
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
I wanted to recommend a Walther PPK, but they bite.
SuicideUZI
Member
actually a small revolver with a steel frame would probably be her best bet
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Yep. Easier to operate, no slide to pull back, easy to reload, less recoil than an alloy frame. Any small revolver in .38 or .357 (don't load .357, just use .38 rounds) would be good.
Basically anything on this page: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/885/Handguns/Buds+Spectacular+Snubbies
Probably this one would be good.. No hammer, cheap, .38 only so you can't load the wrong ammo.
Or that.
fastford58
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Just bought a S&W .500 Magnum today. I'll post pics as soon as it is in my mits.
That's it for new guns now for 2 years.
That's it for new guns now for 2 years.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Gonna check out a Bushmaster ACR and an FN SCAR this weekend.
I'm so excited.
I'm so excited.
I live in NJ and want to shoot a pistol at an indoor range, I would be renting their gun and ammunition. (First time shooter, don't own any guns).
Do I really need to obtain a firearms ID card for something like that? Seems like a lot of hassle to go through just to be able to shoot off a few rounds for an hour.
Do I really need to obtain a firearms ID card for something like that? Seems like a lot of hassle to go through just to be able to shoot off a few rounds for an hour.
BattleMonkey
Member
Probably not as long as your a legal resident of the US, but just call the place you plan on going too and asking them.
fastford58
Member
Lucky. We have been waiting for the FRT number (how the RCMP classes firearms) on the SCAR for like 2 years now. Canuckistan is slow to do these things sometimes.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Yeah, I am excited only because if it goes well, I will base my 5.56 purchase based on it. One thing I do like about the ACR over the FN ahead of time is the amount of AR parts the ACR uses, like the trigger assembly. But, how they feel and shoot overrides all.
The place I asked said "You need your own firearm OR, a firearms ID card in order to rent a firearm. NJ driver's license is not it."
Seems silly I would need a firearms ID just to rent a pistol at an indoor range. The gun would never be leaving ther premises and I'd be under supervision of the staff.
Hoping that is their own specific policy and not some kind of law. I'll ask around a few other places.
BattleMonkey
Member
Picked up a new Baby Eagle 2 in .40, steel frame
Loving this gun
Loving this gun
Poindexter
Member
I did too. Unfortunately im having a ridiculous amount of FTF's. Everything is ejecting properly, no stove piping. Racking is fine but after the first round is fired it jams on feeding the next round. Im going to polish the feed ramp. The nose of the bullets seems to be getting caught up in the ramp.
You guys can't even buy airsoft guns unless they have clear plastic bodies and colored with lame neon colors. So sad for you.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
They can. I think the colors and clear bodies are for minors.
fastford58
Member
.500 Smith pics time!
This thing is a beast.
In relation to the Tavor
Relation to a Glock 17
.500 vs. 9mm
Now lets hope my little wrists can take it lol.
This thing is a beast.
In relation to the Tavor
Relation to a Glock 17
.500 vs. 9mm
Now lets hope my little wrists can take it lol.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
I'm single. I need my wrists.
Good luck, sir.
I have seen people one hand it. Well.
Good luck, sir.
I have seen people one hand it. Well.
soundscream
Member
As I wait for my NJ Firearms License (1 month and counting) I got a damn summons for Jury Duty. Im sure my applying for the license put me up higher on the grid for potential jurors.
Poindexter
Member
Im sure some of you have a c&r license so I guess I'll ask. For a collector is it worth it? I love buying up old firearms. Do I get wholesale pricing from distributors like a full ffl? How hard is it to qualify for the ffl? And I can get firearms shipped straight to me correct? All firearms or just collectables?
fastford58
Member
I had no idea this would become the official gun thread when I started it. Haven't been shooting in a long time. Funds are running low.
It's actually a pretty great thread. Hope you get back on the wagon soon!
BattleMonkey
Member
Eek, hope it works out. My 1911 is giving me trouble and its making me sad. Going to probably have to take it to a smith to check it out as the shells after firing keep getting stuck in the breech instead of ejecting. Cleaned it up but still randomly happens more often than i'm comfortable with.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
So, I fired a gun for the first time this weekend (it was cool) and now I'm curious about handgun ownership in Canada. I know there's multiple tiers for gun ownership, how does all that work. I'd like to buy a handgun a few years from now when I can afford it.
Also, the gun I used was a CZ... something (75?). It felt good. Just curious if anyone can give me more information on it compared to similar weapons in the same caliber (9mm). I have very little experience with firearms. I'm just curious.
Also, the gun I used was a CZ... something (75?). It felt good. Just curious if anyone can give me more information on it compared to similar weapons in the same caliber (9mm). I have very little experience with firearms. I'm just curious.
TOM f'N CRUISE
Member
Next up is my Kriss Vector Carbine. What a crazy little sub-gun! My wife was like "what in the hell is that thing?" Haven't got it to the range yet, but soon.
i dont know the rules of gun GAF but may i ask how much it was?? god that gun is beautiful
It has nothing to do with the RCMP. The US wont export those guns to canada anymore. Same reason we cant get .50 cal bmg rifles from the states, certain handgun models, and so forth. Theres the whole cat and mouse game of stamping .223 on barrels instead of 5.56 because it causes export issues. We have barret .416 caliber guns up here but not .50 bmg.
Its not Canada thats the problem. Its the US.
They usually go for 1600-1700 in California.
God damn, that is a monster. I've fired a 3" .44 mag before, but I don't think I would take on a .500, it's just insane..500 Smith pics time!
This thing is a beast.
In relation to the Tavor
Relation to a Glock 17
.500 vs. 9mm
Now lets hope my little wrists can take it lol.
Can we get a picture of your whole collection? You've got some interesting stuff.
The CZ75 is a great pistol. A little heavier than the more modern polymer framed guns, but it has one of the best triggers around, and is not expensive at all compared to most nice guns. It also has a pretty solid aftermarket and custom work scene if you want to modify it later.
fastford58
Member
Basically there are 2 licensing tiers now (three if you count prohib, but they are getting rare). Unrestricted and restricted. You need a restricted to own any form of hand gun (unless it is a legally defined antique which requires no license). You can do the restricted and unrestricted course together. You can not have your restricted license without your unrestricted license.
You do the approved CFC courses for both classes, write a multiple choice exam for both and do practical exams for both. The it is the waiting game as paperwork is shuffled around. The whole thing can be done in a couple of weekends.
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The CZ are Czech made small arms and are some of the most comfortable pistols I have ever held. I have a CZ SP01 Shadow and just adore it. Low bore axis and heavy weight keep the accuracy up and the recoil down. The triggers are also quite nice compared to some of the other 9mm that have become standards over the years. The CZ pistols are known for ruggedness and reliability. Many IPSC shooters (probably like 99% of them) use the Shadow as competition guns.
The gun takes internal design ques from 1911 style pistols, but eliminates the barrel bushings to make tear down and re-assembly more conventional to modern pistols such as Glocks or Sig P226.
It is a fantastic pistol.
fastford58
Member
In the case of the SCAR, it is the RCMP. There are SCARS in Canada sitting at Questar, but the RCMP is dragging their asses on classification.
But you are correct about military designated calibres and import/export between the US. Civilian market became an unfortunate victim of a sweeping regulation.
Poindexter
Member
thanks man. Im taking it out to see if it works today. I hope it does!
Have you looked into adjusting the extractor? I had to do it on my 1911 Colt XSE and it was ridiculously easy.
lostsupper
Banned
You might be limp-wristing it. Have a bigger/stronger shooter run through a few mags and see if he has the same problem. Then try different ammo. If you have an underloaded batch, it may not be able to cycle the slide completely.
If you can eliminate shooter and ammo problems, have a competent smith look at the ejector.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
So Saturday, I shot the SCAR and ACR.
The lightness of both weapon systems impressed me. Especially on the SCAR.
What I didn't like:
SCAR has a reciprocating bolt.
ACR's ambi selector switch gets in the way. But this can be fixed aftermarket.
What I liked:
Recoil on both weapons was light. SCAR had lighter trigger pull.
ACR felt more solid in the stock area.
I think I like the ACR more. It seems more ergonomically thought out. And since its has alot of AR parts, it'll be easier to get replacements.
The lightness of both weapon systems impressed me. Especially on the SCAR.
What I didn't like:
SCAR has a reciprocating bolt.
ACR's ambi selector switch gets in the way. But this can be fixed aftermarket.
What I liked:
Recoil on both weapons was light. SCAR had lighter trigger pull.
ACR felt more solid in the stock area.
I think I like the ACR more. It seems more ergonomically thought out. And since its has alot of AR parts, it'll be easier to get replacements.
BattleMonkey
Member
Didn't have problems in the past when i've taken it to the range, just last time I went. The range did suddenly require me to use ammo they sold which is Federal .45, when they always let me use Fiocchi ammo each time and suddenly they are like "we never let anyone use that ammo here".....
Want to try my old ammo and see how it goes. Also limp wristing from what I know usually leads more to stove piping and not whats going on with my 1911. I think I will have to take a look at the ejector on it perhaps.
Nice, cheap, and reliable. I got the chance to shoot a Benelli M4 and it was one amazing piece of machinery. I also got a chance to shoot a SPAS-12(with hook attachment) and that's just pure baddassery.
Finally back from a ban. I have this pistol as well and have had zero issues with it. Amazing gun for $500 new. Does the FTF's happen with both clips? I saw a YouTube video where it was actually the clip that was defective and magnum research replaced it.
Saw a Kriss Super V at the local range I go to for rent. I like the gun, but the civilian model is absolutely pointless unless you got a money tree. With the Kriss, you can just tell it was made for full auto and not semi-auto.
It's a cool gun, but for the money, I'll take a Springfield Operator with a laser/light combo and money to spare.
It's a cool gun, but for the money, I'll take a Springfield Operator with a laser/light combo and money to spare.
Yeah it's one of those it's cool to have but if I'm debating about the value of it then I can't afford it.
Instead of buying my first AR15 I decided to build one.
Just put together my lower tonight. Hopefully I'll have all the parts for the upper by next weekend.
Parts list.
Spikes Tactical Stripped Lower Zombie markings
Aluminum winter trigger guard. Don't remember the brand it was $13 on Amazon
Rock River Arms Lower Parts Kit
Rock River Arms 2 Stage Match Trigger
Del Ton Heavy Buffer. Tube and Spring Set
Magpul CTR Buttstock
Ergo Grip
Waiting for the upper parts to get here.
Rock River Arms Stripped Upper
Palmetto State Armory 16" Mid Length Chrome Lined Barrel
WMD Guns NiB-X Bolt Carrier Group
BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle
Troy Industries VTAC Alpha Rail 13"
Daniel Defense Front and Rear fixed Sights
Yankee Hill Machine Low Profile Gas Block
Armalite gas tube
Yankee Hill Machine Phantom Flash Hider
Here it is so far. The Lower was pretty easy over all.
That front pivot pin is a straight up bitch to put in!
Just put together my lower tonight. Hopefully I'll have all the parts for the upper by next weekend.
Parts list.
Spikes Tactical Stripped Lower Zombie markings
Aluminum winter trigger guard. Don't remember the brand it was $13 on Amazon
Rock River Arms Lower Parts Kit
Rock River Arms 2 Stage Match Trigger
Del Ton Heavy Buffer. Tube and Spring Set
Magpul CTR Buttstock
Ergo Grip
Waiting for the upper parts to get here.
Rock River Arms Stripped Upper
Palmetto State Armory 16" Mid Length Chrome Lined Barrel
WMD Guns NiB-X Bolt Carrier Group
BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle
Troy Industries VTAC Alpha Rail 13"
Daniel Defense Front and Rear fixed Sights
Yankee Hill Machine Low Profile Gas Block
Armalite gas tube
Yankee Hill Machine Phantom Flash Hider
Here it is so far. The Lower was pretty easy over all.
That front pivot pin is a straight up bitch to put in!
