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Fighting Games Weekly | May 21-27
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GG kicks ass.
I'm not going to hope for too much for people new to the game, but at the very least I hope this gives people an opportunity to watch the game played at a high level with English commentary that lets them understand what's going on. I can't wait. It's going to be so fun.
That's Phoenix which is the best character on that tier list. She is just slightly above the 3 underneath her with Zero/Morrigan/Vergil. He has rated Morrigan as 2nd best in the game and Viper 5th rounding out his top 5. I can't agree with either Morrigan or Phoenix that high.
The top players are REALLY underrating Trish and Deadpool. They are such solid versatile characters with a lot of great tools... I just don't get it. The "best" player from Japan has a Deadpool on point and there was a reasonable Trish contingency at Toryuken this weekend.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I like how Phoenix is kinda off on her own in Wild Card Tier Land
I don't have a problem with most of that list, but I really really think that Cap should be above the horizontal line between Chris and Nova.
Phoenix IS a wild card.
So are a lot of characters like Frank West, Phoenix Wright, Firebrand, Arthur, Spider Man, RR and MODOK. They have the tools but also have unorthodox playstyles that aren't completely figured out. Phoenix got a shit ton of exposure in Vanilla but if Ultimate was the first game Phoenix would've had pretty lousy tech and knowledge on her.
Technically speaking Firebrand is the best character in the game because he can legitimately 300% your team. On a well constructed team his first touch may mean that you might not get to play the game.
So are a lot of characters like Frank West, Phoenix Wright, Firebrand, Arthur, Spider Man, RR and MODOK. They have the tools but also have unorthodox playstyles that aren't completely figured out. Phoenix got a shit ton of exposure in Vanilla but if Ultimate was the first game Phoenix would've had pretty lousy tech and knowledge on her.
Technically speaking Firebrand is the best character in the game because he can legitimately 300% your team. On a well constructed team his first touch may mean that you might not get to play the game.
Rice-Eater
Member
May as well throw in the source as well
https://twitter.com/#!/daigothebeast/status/204969863687573504
Zhi is also going to try and get a interview with the Beast. It's good to see him finally travel for a tournament again, but it's too bad he chose to stay on his side of the ocean than rather come here. ECT and CEO are coming up soon and SF4 should have 300+ entrants at each tourney so there is good money to be made. But it's too bad he we probably won't see him in America again until EVO. Hopefully Tokido and Mago will show up to make up for the lack of Japanese presence. If not then at least we know Gamerbee is confirmed for those 2.
GotchaForce
Member
Speaking of character ranks, SKill just tweeted
"Anyone want to do a credible UMVC3 *team* rankings? I've always felt char rankings in MVC games mostly miss the point."
Good luck with that, how many possible team combinations are there anyways?
"Anyone want to do a credible UMVC3 *team* rankings? I've always felt char rankings in MVC games mostly miss the point."
Good luck with that, how many possible team combinations are there anyways?
5 minutes after he posted that:
"I agree that ranking EVERY team would be nuts, but ranking a few top ones would still say a LOT more than ranking chars IMO"
Karsticles
Member
Seth gets it.
GotchaForce
Member
I totally agree with him, it's just my mind hurts thinking of where to start lol
I always interpreted character rank as how strong a character is with a proper team built around it and/or how well the character performs when just thrown in on a team. I value both point and support characteristics but of course value point much more than support.
This isn't MVC3 where the pool of playable characters was basically 10 and you could just mix and match teams while choosing from a select few assist characters. The pool of playable characters and usable assists is FAR greater than in MVC2 which makes the number of possible competitive teams in MVC3 EXPONENTIALLY greater. What we do have in Marvel 3 so far are "shells" as in character pairs that work exceptionally well together for one reason or another. Putting a 3rd character that goes well with the "shell" generally makes it a top tier team.
And every character gets their own shells. Example for some of the top tiers:
Viper + Ammy (add beam character like Doom or Iron Man)
Doom + Ammy (add strong point character that can take advantage of missiles/beam/lock down assist like Viper or Magneto)
Vergil + Magneto (add character that can give OTG assist like Wesker or Viper or Dante Crystal)
Wesker + Strider or Dante + Strider (add a character who had a beam like Doom or Magneto or Iron Man)
Magneto + Drones (add a character in between who can take advantage of Drones like Storm or Iron Man)
Dormammu + Magneto (add a character which gives an OTG assist like Wesker)
Firebrand + Doom (add a character with a good lock down assist like Ammy or Doom missiles)
Morrigan + Doom (add a character who can take advantage of meter building assist and missiles like Dormammu or even Phoenix at the back)
Zero + Dante (add a character who supports both in combo extension like Strider or Vergil)
Zero + Doom or Magneto + Doom (both great shells for Phoenix)
Deadpool + Dante (add a lockdown or combo extender assist)
Nova + Frank West + Dante (the defacto Frank West team)
Firebrand + Skrull (the defacto unblockable team... add any solo playable character that goes well with both)
Spencer + Sentinel (add a combo extending assist)
Spencer + Iron Man (add a lockdown assist like Doom HM)
Wolverine + Akuma (add a character who can take advantage of Tatsu assist and can DHC into Wolverine like Storm or Vergil)
Vergil + Taskmaster
Felicia + Taskmaster
And this is just using a handful of the characters. There are legit very strong synergies in a slightly lower tier too like Skrull + Sentinel, Firebrand + Arthur, Tron + Thor, Strange + Haggar, Strange + Dante, Chris + Sentinel, Strange + Iron Man, MODOK + Sentinel.
It's coming up with a 3 man squad that has proven difficult for a lot of people especially top players.
No doubt, I think Melty is incredibly underrated. Funny considered how similar MvC3 is to MB and some people still look down on the game. Also a shame that French Bread and Type-Moon don't give a shit about the Western scene.
Izuna vs F-Word ft5(?): http://www.twitch.tv/armshouse.
Rice-Eater
Member
Oh boy, they're going in on Izuna now. He did pretty poorly in this set though. I wonder how much rust played into this.
GhostRidah
Member
wow good stuff Kadey, I want one!
#swagUnveiling the new TS jacket.
You need to make those for the IPLAYWINNER crew too! * Wink wink *
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Looks really nice. Less is more, for certain.
Seraphinianus
Banned
hello gentlemen
and Chavelo
One of the only times a ban actually made me happy.
Missed the bewbs, tho.
and Chavelo
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Wow only 2 weeks. I thought it would be a perma.
(what the hell were you thinking when you posted that)
(what the hell were you thinking when you posted that)
WesternHeretic
Member
I don't know if it has been posted already but Dr. Sub Zero show is going to air at 10PM.
Which mean it's on RIGHT AFTER CC LIVE!
Which mean it's on RIGHT AFTER CC LIVE!
StriKeVillain
Banned
Yeah - I'm a little clueless. :S
Karsticles
Member
Seraphinianus was banned 2 weeks ago. Account suicide via nudes. Follow the Chavelo quote if you want to see the thread.
StriKeVillain
Banned
Seraphinianus
Banned
one week for each boob
also, i think i'm Gill
also, i think i'm Gill
I remember that, caught a glimpse.
Lazy vs Crazy
Member
MODOK is up there?
Karsticles
Member
I don't follow you. By saying "account suicide", I mean his intention was to get banned. For some reason they went light on him. Maybe it was a good picture?It doesn't list him as banned though. Or is that a new Evilore troll?
StriKeVillain
Banned
Yeah - I see now. In all my years here though, 'account suicide' has always referenced a perm.
Also, Fanatiq's live. He read my (troll) question on his stream. :lol
WesternHeretic
Member
Ask Justin not me >.<
I'm going to guess it's because he played Royal Flush and Link's Modok and probably thought they were decent/good.
RellyRell28
Banned
I'm watching the 8 way run stream and I swear Jaxel has by far the worse opinions I ever heard.
This guy just said that Ocarina of time is not a great game anymore and that GTA San Andreas was never good. This dude is horrible.
This guy just said that Ocarina of time is not a great game anymore and that GTA San Andreas was never good. This dude is horrible.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
SCIENCE!!!
I JUST came here to say this. Somehow I still enjoy watching it, but jesus christ I have IRL troll friends like him who always have the most ludicrous opinions.
Like 5 minutes ago he just said that Mirror's Edge had a good story. Did he play the same game as me that had a skeleton of a story?
On a side note I recently bought Dark Souls and it's awesome. Bad way to warm up for a UMvC3 session though. Salt levels begin at critical.
ipitydatfu
Member
i understand up and down. but what does left and right mean?
SolarPowered
Member
This is true. It was hilarious when he first introduced Skullgirls to the break as an "anime" fighter and commentary basically argued with stream monsters(ie: people who actually follow the game) for half an hour. This was the game's first showing too. :I
RellyRell28
Banned
NO LET ME SAY THIS AGAIN. HE SAID OCARINA OF TIME IS ASS NOW. I can't take Jaxel seriously ever again. Don't get me wrong it's entertaning but annoying at the same time.
Seraphinianus
Banned
i'm trying to figure that out too
Gotta agree the game needs teams ranked as well, but that's really a long term goal.
Me vs Panda. First to whoever cries and leaves first. http://www.twitch.tv/kadeybaybe
StriKeVillain
Banned
I love Iron Man's NeoGAF alt.
RellyRell28
Banned
Now they're going in on Kingdom Hearts and FF. This actually entertaining
Lazy vs Crazy
Member
Final Fantasy 8 is not a game.
This is compelling.
This is compelling.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
yeah I disagree with the anymore part
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Hulk vs Ghost is one of the worst things ever