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Rumor: Sega Europe about to close, no more Sega AAA, focusing on digital only
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That's promising if they follow through with everything.
Only PSO/v2&Episode I&II had full language sets in every release, that's basically the best hope so even the Japanese release can be played in full English.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
You can't add digital titles to the Tower of Power. =(
Nice vacuum.
My guess would be Black Rock even though it wasn't that recent.
I think Nintendo could buy majority stock, restructure the company and merge some of their talent without feeling it too much.
I still remember when Sega first went 3rd party and Toshihiro Nagoshi said he would love to move to Kyoto and work under Nintendo when asked which company would most like to go with if Sega were bought out. Or something to that affect.
We all know in our hearts that those two companies need each other like Perfect Strangers.
SpinningBirdKick
Banned
So it at last begins.
The death of traditional dedicated gaming consoles has started.
I for one welcome our new tablet and smartphone gaming overlords!
On a more serious note, the writing has been on the wall for the traditional gaming companies for a while now. I'm surprised that so many have even managed to last out the PS3/360 generation. I expect to see alot more companies bailing out of the dedicated game console space in the future.
The death of traditional dedicated gaming consoles has started.
I for one welcome our new tablet and smartphone gaming overlords!
On a more serious note, the writing has been on the wall for the traditional gaming companies for a while now. I'm surprised that so many have even managed to last out the PS3/360 generation. I expect to see alot more companies bailing out of the dedicated game console space in the future.
Professor Beef
Banned
We all saw that trollface that Sega desperately wanted to plant on Modern Sonic's face as he said that. If only we knew the truth...
I actually would play a Tales of Sonic game, seeing as how it was mentioned earlier.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
It's only the SonicGAF theme song because we didn't know you were going to add it in when we were making the thread.
I'm quite certain that Sciz would've fought you to the death over it.
Visualante2
Member
Ah that makes sense, it crossed my mind when I saw it. Real tragedy, I hope someone like Paradox or Microsoft can pick the studio up.
e. Things seem to be fine at Sega Amusements Europe hopefully this rumour doesn't affect them because it would be a nail in the coffin for arcades. They seem to have a lot of sites and do all the support for old Sega/similar cabs.
EA would acquire that without blinking... merge it into the Fifa universe mayhaps.
I wouldn't worry too much. Either Sega keeps developing them (as they own the studios). Or they sell them off and someone buys them, and continues the franchises under the same or a new name. Sports Interactive already fell out with Eidos according to the wiki and just renamed the franchise, and worked with Sega. They're far too popular to just close the studio and cut your losses, or to force into new, potentially failing markets like tablet/mobile.
cj_iwakura
Member
Yes, because an HD sequel to an expensive title didn't sell makes perfect sense.
It's lucky it even got a sequel.
I don't understand why they say they won't make AAA games anymore. Way to sell yourself short.
Should have phrased it as if they are making more AAA Sega games on ipads and digital. There's no quantifier over what's a AAA game, it just refers to a really great game. Atleast pretend you make good games Sega.
....or does AAA directly refer to budget now?
Should have phrased it as if they are making more AAA Sega games on ipads and digital. There's no quantifier over what's a AAA game, it just refers to a really great game. Atleast pretend you make good games Sega.
....or does AAA directly refer to budget now?
That actually makes me vaguely more hopeful than before, I figured it was likely the people who helped get it out here would've left with that upheaval a few months ago, but he left more recently. Maybe there's a few others that'd push for it, or it does modest enough sales that Sega would be inclined to go on autopilot and just mark them for localization pending special circumstances (PSP release)? Though if they're more open to licensing out again that could solve it too.
AAA is budget.
Sonic Wiki said:Dexter (デクスターis a fictional boyfriend that Amy Rose fabricated in Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood, to make Sonic jealous. Amy doesn't go into detail about him, and almost nothing is known about him. Depending on the choices of the player, Amy might admit to Sonic that he isn't real.
Sonic does actually have the chance to talk to her about Dexter almost all the times he talks to her to make her mad or uncomfortable. Eventually in Chapter 5 when Amy says that she doesn't want him to get hurt he can tease her by asking, "Does your boyfriend know that you worry so much about me?" and she would angrily reply,"Why do you care so much about Dexter? It seems like he's your boyfriend not mine!".
Please stop.
cj_iwakura
Member
What's bound to happen is that Sega's going to stop being a corporation and become an intellectual property, like Atari, being used by another company.
Sad, but them's the breaks. How this will affect the Yakuza team, we can only wonder.
Sad, but them's the breaks. How this will affect the Yakuza team, we can only wonder.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Eh well.
Not even Sega on their best day could get me interested in cellphone/tablet gaming.
This coming generation looks to be absolute shit.
Not even Sega on their best day could get me interested in cellphone/tablet gaming.
This coming generation looks to be absolute shit.
Professor Beef
Banned
It's only the SonicGAF theme song because we didn't know you were going to add it in when we were making the thread.
I'm quite certain that Sciz would've fought you to the death over it.
Well it's too bad, I already called it.
"Nuh-uh!"
"Well I'm calling it now."
I certainly thing the next "generation" (if you even want to call it that) is certainly going to be substantially different from what most would have envisioned just two years ago. lol
Windows 8: Where coming to the tablet means it's coming to the PC. Sega's going PC/Phone. I can live that
What is the number that constitutes high budget then?
Can't I make a AAA game at a low budget? World of Goo is a AAA game to me....?
Right? I see all the doom and gloom people are coming in droves. People, SEGA has fallen to where they currently are because they had become such a shitty company. They've mishandled and bumbled their way to lesser and lesser importance since the Dreamcast.
The only difference between SEGA and Vivendi is that SEGA was in a lot more people's childhoods, and SEGA came from the east, so they had some kind of mystical allure to them, like Nintendo. Basically a lot of people saw SEGA as a big part of gaming, while in truth, they haven't been for many, many years.
shinobi602
Member
We'll uh....we'll get Shenmue 3 before then.......right?
RIGHT T____T ??????
RIGHT T____T ??????
At most publishers, AAA is an investment level, not a quality level.
It's not wholly uncommon to see phrases like "Developing a AAA game targeting a 90+ Metacritic rating" because the former doesn't imply the latter, just that they're spending a lot of money.
It's all a bit confused these days, but in general it refers to the top tier of budget for a game in its respective market. The days of it referring to quality are gone, as production values became the measure by which the average person judged games. Promoting a game as AAA is showing the commitment of spending x amount of money on it. Already being expanded to the rather silly AAAA for next gen.
Infinity Blade would say be a AAA game on iPhone.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Ohhh, he got us with his legal mumbo-jumbo.
I love how you subtly included it. Well, not so subtly, because I wondered why you picked that pic and then I clicked on it.
Heh, yeah, things just keep changing day-to-day, it seems.loosus said:
maquiladora
Member
But what about stuff thats already well into development like Yakuza 5?
Aw man....
Aw man....
All I'm saying is that if it was a different company, or rather an identical company, but without the fanfare and nostalgia tied to the Sega name, reaction would be completely different. But since a lot of people here grew up with a Sega console(s), they loved Sonic, etc., there is always going to be those that rationalize this as the video game industry dying, instead of the likely possibility that Sega just died, because they couldn't evolve, and because they made a bunch of stupid-ass decisions for years.
Augemitbutter
Member
i hope this has nothing to do with localization. i never cared about their US/Euro developed output anyway.
same goes for Konami, Capcom etc. don't ruin my established series.
same goes for Konami, Capcom etc. don't ruin my established series.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
What spawn of nightmares created this? Its like a whisper of madness.
This should be the SonicGAF theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlVNShxRBw4
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Yeah, I thought it referred to quality still. Thanks. Didn't know the meaning had shifted to budget now. Now the AAAA stuff makes sense (though I think the monetary value for AAAA stuff would be rather insane :O).
Bioware.Parallax said:
Jun Senoue's already come up with his equivalent. And we have a Meow Mix remix.Aeana said:
Edit: Beaten hard by Nirolak.
So, ummm.... is this confirmed, or not?
One bad fiscal year in the history of the company does not mean they're in "bad shape", either.
One bad fiscal year in the history of the company does not mean they're in "bad shape", either.
Given Mike West hitting the door and their recent restructuring, the prognosis isn't great right now.
GillianSeed79
Member
I wonder what Ron Gilbert feels like right now. Sucks if true. Granted, Sega has been dead to me since the death of the Dreamcast, but this brings up old, old wounds.
Also:
June 3rd, 2012: I found out Deap Space 3 will have chest high walls this morning, and the new Star Wars game will have playable action sequences. E3 is afraid of us. I have seen its true face. The LA Convention Center's halls are souless halls and the halls are full of sequels and Apps. When the bottom finally falls out, all the publishers will drown. The accumulated filth of all their Day 1 and on disc DLC, microtransactions, retailer exlusive pre-order bonuses and mobile Facebook initiatives will foam up about their waists and gameplay mechanics will be a lost memory of arcades like Time Out and consoles like Genesis and Dreamcast. All the game journalists and fanboys will look up and shout "Save us!"... and Sega will whisper "no."
Also:
June 3rd, 2012: I found out Deap Space 3 will have chest high walls this morning, and the new Star Wars game will have playable action sequences. E3 is afraid of us. I have seen its true face. The LA Convention Center's halls are souless halls and the halls are full of sequels and Apps. When the bottom finally falls out, all the publishers will drown. The accumulated filth of all their Day 1 and on disc DLC, microtransactions, retailer exlusive pre-order bonuses and mobile Facebook initiatives will foam up about their waists and gameplay mechanics will be a lost memory of arcades like Time Out and consoles like Genesis and Dreamcast. All the game journalists and fanboys will look up and shout "Save us!"... and Sega will whisper "no."
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
I mean the composer, if you can call that a composition anyway.
Sensationalist much? You must write for the National Inquirer.
Will never happen, cause there will always be a market for hardcore gamers.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
The Sonic 3 Final Boss theme, composed by Masayuki Nagao, iirc.
That was Bioware's spin on it. Wasn't it amazing?
It's another parallel with how the games industry has been mirroring the film industry really, with its blockbuster mentality. The first $100 million film, then the first $200 million. It's used as a promotional tool in itself, implying a guarantee of spectacle for the consumer.
The gaming industry is just far more cagey about costs, being a younger and more volatile industry, so has just used AAA as the all encompassing term for the high-production value games.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Someone had to put that nightmare version together though. Does that person have a name?
ThatObviousUser
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Is there any real possibility Sega would ever stop developing console Sonic games? I mean I can buy the story if not for that.
My main concern now is who will publish Platinum's games??
My main concern now is who will publish Platinum's games??
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
My main concern now is who will publish Platinum's games??
It probably wouldn't be Sega anyway.