This diagram I found sort of spells out what I was trying to say earlier. I think it's probably the safest bet on all this "alternate universe" stuff.
WARNING: Eureka Seven ending spoilers
WARNING: Eureka Seven ending spoilers
Eureka Seven Astral Ocean |OT| "Don't fight it, feel it"
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Hmm, okay, I'll have to check it out then. Is the music/OST as good as the first series?
And duckroll is ignoring me.
I'm not ignoring you. There are tons of posts in this thread where I talk about the show, if you want to know what I think. I just don't really see a need to say the same things again!
Haha I was just kidding around. I'll have to go through the thread then, just don't want to read some accidental spoilers.
Looks like I'm going to need to rewatch ep 7 after I get back from Fanime, since there's clearly a few things I missed the first time in my sleep-deprived state. Most noticeably apparently
. Not that I'm looking forward to having to watch the NTR a second time.
whatever this is about the singer obviously being Elena
Netorare. It's really sad I know some of these terms.
Hmm, okay, I'll have to check it out then. Is the music/OST as good as the first series?
And duckroll is ignoring me.
The music is somewhat different than the original but so far has been just as good.
Do you guys like this series so far? Haven't started it yet.
Duckroll I take your opinion highly.
Rather mixed in general. It seems ok and it's not the complete bastardization I was expecting but it does have certain problems such as exposition talk and the animation can really dip at times such as most of Episode 3.
Thanks for the writeup.
-The Compac Drive isn't really memorable in regards to its general design but it is iconic of the series I guess.
-Wish more series would do hand drawn stuff for mechs. I really appreciate it in the series and if AO had gone with CG I think I would have completely written the series off.
-I could easily see them having problems with Ao's hair. Weirdly enough I remember some guy saying a while ago that it's usually the more minor details that trip up productions rather than the large ones. I would have preferred them to have gone with a darker color though such as his original hair color and just kept the Coralian eyes.
NTR, or Netorare, is a... strange situation which might drive readers/watchers mad.
Basically we have this story with an established couple who may or may not actually be dating. It might be a situation where the guy wants really bad to get the girl and every thing seems to go smooth. The point is that the reader clearly identify them as a couple.
Then a third party comes to mess this up. Usually, it's the girl who gets snatched by another dude, making the people who read/watch this rage hard in the process.
In Eureka Seven AO the NTR element would be :
Naru leaving poor Ao to go with Truth
Didn't one of the Acsperience episodes in Eureka Seven take place entirely in a (pseudo) dream? Astral Ocean episode 7 kind of felt like a throwback to that.
Yea Acperience 1(Episode 14) was composed of a lengthy dream/trippy sequence.
Ultimadrago
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Eureka Seven AO 7
Well, well, at the end of my previous impressions I requested to see more of
The eyecatches, the eyecatches are everywhere.
Poor Ao got some
by
.
I felt pretty indifferent towards this. It wasn't boring like some of the episodes have been, but I didn't "like it" all that much either, save for
.
Anyways, lesson is
are strange things...
His smile looks weird.
Well, well, at the end of my previous impressions I requested to see more of
the havoc Truth could bring, and I was given just that!
The eyecatches, the eyecatches are everywhere.
Poor Ao got some
NTR'd
Truth
I guess girls are into the bad boys around this time in their lives.
I felt pretty indifferent towards this. It wasn't boring like some of the episodes have been, but I didn't "like it" all that much either, save for
some explosions and delicious NTR
Anyways, lesson is
dreams
WrenchNinja
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Wasn't the movie supposed to be that alternate universe? Though I've also heard that its a prequel.
I thought the movie had nothing at all to do with the story... just a different retelling for the sake of it being a motion picture.
Honestly, I don't know what's going on anymore. I'm just trying to enjoy it. It'll connect to the old series at some point, until that time, I refuse to rage out every time it seems to distance itself from it (or when something comes up that makes no sense).
Truth said something about this world or reality being erroneous... so that says a lot about this world were seeing. I also found it strange it being mentioned Generation Blue was founded in 1980, it's like the world is a mix of past and future (unlike E7 which obviously takes place thousands of years in the future). I'm just going to go with the flow.
Nay, the movie is kind of a side-story in a different universe, and actually connected with the series, though in a really fucked up way:
During the Tragedy of Doha, notHolland and friends got a glimpse of the series world, peaceful and with the Renton x Eureka marking on the moon. That's what they call their "Neverland" and they're trying to go back there, hoping it'll stop the accelerated aging they've been affected with ever since the Tragedy.
Duckrolls Acperience
Well... I'm currently making my way through Xam'd: Lost Memories on my quest to catch up on all of the Studio Bones catalogue. For better or for worse, it feels a lot more like Eureka Seven than AO does at this point, particularly in terms of the world and character design. That's not really meant as a jab against AO; just an observation.
I'm only a handful of episodes in. What's the GAF consensus? I'm digging it so far, but the plot comes across as a bit overcomplicated.
I'm only a handful of episodes in. What's the GAF consensus? I'm digging it so far, but the plot comes across as a bit overcomplicated.
Xam'd works and doesn't work.
Episodes taken on their own can range from the very good to the excellent. The show shines brightest when its concentrated on the adult characters too. Many episodes feature just extremely well crafted moments, emotional or otherwise that make watching the series worth it.
But when looking at all 26 episodes together the show just doesn't work. The overall plot simply makes no sense. At all. And the character Haru is just overall a very disappointingly written one. Its the perfect example of a show where the whole is NOT greater than its parts. Despite all that, I do think its worth watching because when the good parts are good, it's very good and overall its a very
On a related not, I think the director actually put out 2 novels based on the series in Japan. I wonder if they clear up the originally intended story, because as its presented in the series it simply becomes incomprehensible.
A lot of the pre-production art that I remember seeing clearly indicate there was a general idea of what the plot and world was.
There was just a total lack of experience guiding the writing. An experienced writer in charge of the series composition would have done absolute wonders for the show.
There was just a total lack of experience guiding the writing. An experienced writer in charge of the series composition would have done absolute wonders for the show.
Heh heh, you're actually making me want to watch that. I think I'd be even more confused if I did.
Oh Xam'd. It's been so long since I've seen it. Some parts reminded me a little of Last Exile, other parts reminded me of E7. Strange show.
First few episodes are really cool.
Impressions from the Anime thread:
Extra exclusive impressions for EurekaSevenGAF:
- I really like the musical cues in this episode. They really made up for some of the really poor animation at times. Kept the mood up really well.
- The balance between "happy" and "serious" is starting to work for this show imo. The kids act and behave naturally like kids, but they approach the situations rather realistically, and it's enjoyable to watch.
- I hate how they keep showing us close ups of the moon, reminding us that there's something which SHOULD be there but isn't. Grrrr....
- Next week:
Eureka Seven AO - Episode 8: One Nation Under A Groove
This is one of those obviously outsourced episodes where the majority of the character animation and art feels off and looks kinda bad. Still, I enjoyed what they did with this episode. They expand the world a little more with another stock mission, Fleur and Ao grow closer together, more character development, all mecha pilots have daddy issues, and some interesting suggestions on Generation Bleu's relations with the rest of the world. Probably the cheapest episode of E7AO so far in terms of production values, but it's still better than this week's Apollon. What does that say? Lol.
I actually starting to kinda dig the references and in-jokes in this show. I think it's the Omigawa effect. Gotta go wash my brain again.
Extra exclusive impressions for EurekaSevenGAF:
- I really like the musical cues in this episode. They really made up for some of the really poor animation at times. Kept the mood up really well.
- The balance between "happy" and "serious" is starting to work for this show imo. The kids act and behave naturally like kids, but they approach the situations rather realistically, and it's enjoyable to watch.
- I hate how they keep showing us close ups of the moon, reminding us that there's something which SHOULD be there but isn't. Grrrr....
- Next week:
swimsuit episode! Truth strikes again! Nirvash underwater operation! Excite!
Man, I can't wait for the soundtrack to drop at the end of the month. Hope all the good songs so far are on it.
Probably the only downside to marathoning E7 right before AO is that now I'm super sensitive to stuff like this. They definitely know what reaction they're aiming for, and as Secret_Riddle says, I'll trust they've got things planned out.
Anyway, I liked episode 8. A bit of a breather after the "WTF-is-going-on"-ness of episode 7.
Hypertrooper
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Do not forget thatImpressions from the Anime thread:
Extra exclusive impressions for EurekaSevenGAF:
- I really like the musical cues in this episode. They really made up for some of the really poor animation at times. Kept the mood up really well.
- The balance between "happy" and "serious" is starting to work for this show imo. The kids act and behave naturally like kids, but they approach the situations rather realistically, and it's enjoyable to watch.
- I hate how they keep showing us close ups of the moon, reminding us that there's something which SHOULD be there but isn't. Grrrr....
- Next week:swimsuit episode! Truth strikes again! Nirvash underwater operation! Excite!
the Nirvash is using melee weapon this time. At least I hope it won't be only because it is underwater.
E7 AO 8
Yea this was a cheap episode but a fairly good one in of itself. It helped expand certain character relationships and background info.
Animation was inconsistent for the most part. Facial models were off for a good number of scenes. There were a few quick good scenes in the battle sequence but nothing particularly noticeable. They also changed the OP again, this time just being the very first sequence. I also think they introduced a new minor piece into the musical selections as well.
Golden.
Yea this was a cheap episode but a fairly good one in of itself. It helped expand certain character relationships and background info.
Animation was inconsistent for the most part. Facial models were off for a good number of scenes. There were a few quick good scenes in the battle sequence but nothing particularly noticeable. They also changed the OP again, this time just being the very first sequence. I also think they introduced a new minor piece into the musical selections as well.
One particularly interesting line Gazelle dropped was that Ao isn't a fan of his father. This is noticeable on two levels. The first being how does Gazelle know this? It implies that he knew Ao on some level before the events in the first episode even though this wasn't implied previously. It would make sense though considering the size of the small town and how it seems everybody was already in Ao's business anyway. The second and more interesting component of all of this is that Renton is finally being mentioned in some sort of capacity. While we don't know how much Ao knows about Renton, the fact that he's being brought up means we will see Renton somewhere down the line, something I was actually worried about. It also ties into the whole father abandonment thing that Bones loves to death(see FMA, the original E7, or Star Driver).
Another interesting line was how the Nirvash and Mark I aren't the same thing. It seems publicly they are however in reality they're two separate mechs. The Mark I is the original mech upon which the others are built off of. My obvious guess is that theEnd is the Mark I and since they didn't want that to be public knowledge, just stated that it was the Nirvash. What I want to know is how Eureka ties into this as she wasn't really a mechanic anyway but she should be familiar with theEnd to a very limited extent.
The major theme of this episode was the importance of politics. It looks like Christopher has to deal with pressure from the US, which further emphasizes the whole UN comparison. He also it seems doesn't like being bossed around and pushed back in his own way. Right now it's really hard to gauge certain characters in Gen Bleu as their depictions really seem to differ at times. My first thought in the prior episode is that Stanley and Rebecca were doing their own thing but I'm starting to think they're working for the Americans and keeping tabs on Christopher. Christopher seems more competent than I gave him credit for. Another interesting line was how he's been losing a lot of teams lately which would somewhat explain why we've only seen Goldilocks as they might be short of teams right now. The whole episode though reinforced the Cold War atmosphere with the terrorist references and the Scub Coral plant being a substitute for nuclear energy.
As for Fleur and Ao's interactions, they get along relatively well. Certain flags were raised but we'll see if they go anywhere. Fleur has misplaced hatred towards her father, mainly she feels Survivor's Guilt and shifts it on her father who did what any father would have done. They finally fleshed her character out to a certain extent. I wonder if they'll bring up that suicidal streak later on. Elena though really does seem like the comedy relief of the three but as a whole their reactions to each other was fine. They all seemed like kids like their whole chit-chat in their cockpits.
The Secret itself continued the motif of looking manmade, this time something like a Viking ship and later a coffin. Not to mention the whole Nordic, lightning theme.
I did like the location change and I hope they keep the variety in settings. It really gives the show a bigger international feeling compared to the very restricted Star Driver.
Naru is being dropped like she's hot shit. We only get one sequence where Ao even thinks about her. For the main heroine, not much interest or thought is being put into her. I'm really starting to think she is the red herring in regards to the love interest but the importance of Yoshida drawing her isn't to be underestimated.
Another interesting line was how the Nirvash and Mark I aren't the same thing. It seems publicly they are however in reality they're two separate mechs. The Mark I is the original mech upon which the others are built off of. My obvious guess is that theEnd is the Mark I and since they didn't want that to be public knowledge, just stated that it was the Nirvash. What I want to know is how Eureka ties into this as she wasn't really a mechanic anyway but she should be familiar with theEnd to a very limited extent.
The major theme of this episode was the importance of politics. It looks like Christopher has to deal with pressure from the US, which further emphasizes the whole UN comparison. He also it seems doesn't like being bossed around and pushed back in his own way. Right now it's really hard to gauge certain characters in Gen Bleu as their depictions really seem to differ at times. My first thought in the prior episode is that Stanley and Rebecca were doing their own thing but I'm starting to think they're working for the Americans and keeping tabs on Christopher. Christopher seems more competent than I gave him credit for. Another interesting line was how he's been losing a lot of teams lately which would somewhat explain why we've only seen Goldilocks as they might be short of teams right now. The whole episode though reinforced the Cold War atmosphere with the terrorist references and the Scub Coral plant being a substitute for nuclear energy.
As for Fleur and Ao's interactions, they get along relatively well. Certain flags were raised but we'll see if they go anywhere. Fleur has misplaced hatred towards her father, mainly she feels Survivor's Guilt and shifts it on her father who did what any father would have done. They finally fleshed her character out to a certain extent. I wonder if they'll bring up that suicidal streak later on. Elena though really does seem like the comedy relief of the three but as a whole their reactions to each other was fine. They all seemed like kids like their whole chit-chat in their cockpits.
The Secret itself continued the motif of looking manmade, this time something like a Viking ship and later a coffin. Not to mention the whole Nordic, lightning theme.
I did like the location change and I hope they keep the variety in settings. It really gives the show a bigger international feeling compared to the very restricted Star Driver.
Naru is being dropped like she's hot shit. We only get one sequence where Ao even thinks about her. For the main heroine, not much interest or thought is being put into her. I'm really starting to think she is the red herring in regards to the love interest but the importance of Yoshida drawing her isn't to be underestimated.
Golden.
I find it odd how both Ao and Renton are such amazing LFO pilots without any practice at all. I guess it comes from their training before (Renton's lifting and Ao's flying car), but they should've showed more practice sessions. Ao handling the weapons as well as he seems to be doing already is kind of absurd.
Also, dat engrish in episode 7 (the research paper). How hard is it go get an English speaker to proof read?
The biggest problem I have now is how the timeline doesn't add up. Are people already back to old religions, countries, languages and the abundance of nationalism after only 20 years? It just doesn't add up. I am seriously starting to think this takes place a long long time after Eureka Seven, and that Eureka is just very very old (coralians might live longer). Because if it's just 20 years later then I'm just not buying it. It might be Ao's father isn't Rention. It might be confirmed already though but I haven't been reading up at all.
Also, dat engrish in episode 7 (the research paper). How hard is it go get an English speaker to proof read?
The biggest problem I have now is how the timeline doesn't add up. Are people already back to old religions, countries, languages and the abundance of nationalism after only 20 years? It just doesn't add up. I am seriously starting to think this takes place a long long time after Eureka Seven, and that Eureka is just very very old (coralians might live longer). Because if it's just 20 years later then I'm just not buying it. It might be Ao's father isn't Rention. It might be confirmed already though but I haven't been reading up at all.
the topical and referential elements of episode 8 got a facepalm from me
as did the superdeformed facial reactions of the main 3
Kind of dont want this to be tied in with Eureka 7 at this point
pretty sure the
theory makes more sense than this
as did the superdeformed facial reactions of the main 3
Kind of dont want this to be tied in with Eureka 7 at this point
pretty sure the
different world
Renton had a lot of practice sessions and lifting in a mech is a natural progression from lifting in real life. Ao doesn't make as much sense but they did establish him as some sort of prodigy, probably from the genetics of both the father and mother. The problem with Ao and the series as a whole is he hasn't gone against someone actually competent in a LFO and got his ass kicked.
I do want to see Ao pilot theEnd though and see what he can do with it.
The only people saying this takes place 20 years later are the crazies. The show officially takes place in 2025 AD, which is 13 years from our present time. There are no official mentions of it having any relation to the E7 TV timeline at all so far.
Dedication Through Light
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Eureka Seven AO 8
I enjoyed the first moments of it and the president and Ao's interactions to the
. I didnt like the development of characters we don't care about, but did enjoy Ao actually smiling and having fun.
I wish the anime will just say who Ao's father is or something. Its like the anime's best kept secret at this point, though what if its
.
Gorgeous action.
I enjoyed the first moments of it and the president and Ao's interactions to the
scene with the three guys tailing him
I wish the anime will just say who Ao's father is or something. Its like the anime's best kept secret at this point, though what if its
truth?
Gorgeous action.
Smiles and Cries
Member
Oh god, I cannot even remember the details of the original I would have to watch 50 eps plus start this
maybe I'll wait for them all to hit netflix
maybe I'll wait for them all to hit netflix
Which is why they're being developed maybe? Use your head a bit man.
It was nice to have a calmer episode after last weeks insanity, and the whole Ao's father tease is making me think it's not Renton, otherwise why hide it? Unless he's dead or something...
Smiles and Cries
Member
just signed up to Huluplus thinking it would take away the ads for this series :|
oh well this thing is so good can wait
oh well this thing is so good can wait
Not to mention they keep talking about how Secrets appeared here and there in the world as far as several centuries ago.
MotionBlue
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Eureka Seven 07-08
NTR and harem antics. I'm not really enjoying this.
RE: Ao's father
Edit:
I just feel the need to reiterate how much I hate how they are handling the Naru situation.
NTR and harem antics. I'm not really enjoying this.
So the giant under Generation Blue looks like the original Nirvash/theEND. And the IFO Ao pilot's had three seats during the dream sequence.
RE: Ao's father
It surely is Renton, and Ao hates him since he thinks Renton "abandoned" Eureka.
Edit:
I just feel the need to reiterate how much I hate how they are handling the Naru situation.
Episode 7 was 'all about her', and nobody seems to give a shit in episode 8. She is less an actual character, them some background set piece they like to bring out and flaunt "hey, remember her?! SHES REALLY IMPORTANT BUT LOL WE WON'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT"
Episode 8
Watched this yesterday, but the episode didn't feel all that strong to make me want to post about it then. It wasn't bad, just after 7 I gues I was hoping in something more. I dig how Ao and Fleur
, I think that was handled well, and I'll repeat once again that I'm flabbergasted how Omigawa isn't killing my ears. I'll have to admit she can do it, in some works.
Watched this yesterday, but the episode didn't feel all that strong to make me want to post about it then. It wasn't bad, just after 7 I gues I was hoping in something more. I dig how Ao and Fleur
started developing a closer friendship because of common reasons
Ultimadrago
Member
Eureka Seven AO 8
Issues that are best summed as
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I left quite indifferent about this episode. Ah well, at least there was an explosion.
Yep.
Issues that are best summed as
Papa no baka
I left quite indifferent about this episode. Ah well, at least there was an explosion.
heliosRAzi
Banned
I'm rewatching Eureka Seven and I think it's so much better than AO. AO feels like fanfiction to me... so far
Upcoming Eureka Seven AO credits:
Episode 10 - Release Your Self
Script: Hiroyuki Kawasaki
Episode Director: Satomi Nakamura
Storyboard: Takuya Igarashi
Animation Directors: Takaaki Izumo, Daisuke Takemoto, Chizuko Kusakabe, Nekomataya (mecha)
Episode 11 - Plateaux of Mirrow
Script: Shou Aikawa
Episode Director: Ikuro Sato
Storyboard: Hitoshi Nanba
Animation Directors: Koichi Hirokawa, Hideto Komori, Eiko Saito, Kazuhiro Miwa (mecha)
Episode 12 - Step into a World
Script: Shou Aikawa
Episode Director: Yo Miura
Storyboard: Soichi Masui
Animation Directors: TBA
Episode 10 - Release Your Self
Script: Hiroyuki Kawasaki
Episode Director: Satomi Nakamura
Storyboard: Takuya Igarashi
Animation Directors: Takaaki Izumo, Daisuke Takemoto, Chizuko Kusakabe, Nekomataya (mecha)
Episode 11 - Plateaux of Mirrow
Script: Shou Aikawa
Episode Director: Ikuro Sato
Storyboard: Hitoshi Nanba
Animation Directors: Koichi Hirokawa, Hideto Komori, Eiko Saito, Kazuhiro Miwa (mecha)
Episode 12 - Step into a World
Script: Shou Aikawa
Episode Director: Yo Miura
Storyboard: Soichi Masui
Animation Directors: TBA
At the moment I think it's terrible, but that is because I still have no idea on how everything ties to Eureka Seven. Everything feels new and changed. Also the "Truth" guy seems like such a terrible, typical modern anime villain.
It isn't actually that bad when really thinking about it. I just expected something else I guess.
Episode 9
That was honestly pretty good. I'm still not a fan of the political "plot" because it generally feels kinda forced and just there to make some vague point about the worldview, but it's not annoying or anything. On the other hand, I wish that Truth would do more than just float around and blow shit up after saying generic ominous stuff. Hopefully he gets to do more cool stuff in the near future.
The plot developments continue to suggest that there's definitely something really off about the world as it is. More and more support is given to the "false world" or "parallel reality" theory. It's like our world, but it's not. Things don't line up, and it's definitely influenced by elements of the original E7. It'll be interesting to see how they eventually reveal the "truth" about this.
Action was pretty good this week, with a cool Secret design. Some pretty nice visuals too. The next episode looks interesting as well, but we'll have to watch two weeks for it, since there's no episode next week due to Euro 2012 football matches.
That was honestly pretty good. I'm still not a fan of the political "plot" because it generally feels kinda forced and just there to make some vague point about the worldview, but it's not annoying or anything. On the other hand, I wish that Truth would do more than just float around and blow shit up after saying generic ominous stuff. Hopefully he gets to do more cool stuff in the near future.
The plot developments continue to suggest that there's definitely something really off about the world as it is. More and more support is given to the "false world" or "parallel reality" theory. It's like our world, but it's not. Things don't line up, and it's definitely influenced by elements of the original E7. It'll be interesting to see how they eventually reveal the "truth" about this.
Action was pretty good this week, with a cool Secret design. Some pretty nice visuals too. The next episode looks interesting as well, but we'll have to watch two weeks for it, since there's no episode next week due to Euro 2012 football matches.
Damned football always ruining everything.
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