No, Milburn was the one who had the worm go down this throat. Fifield's corpse came back to the ship.
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P R O M E T H E U S |OT| Ridley Scott goes back to Building Better Worlds
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Massively disappointed by the movie. Don't even feel like writing detailed impressions. Good visuals, some tense moments, but overall the script was a pile of dogshit and as a prequel to Alien it is a disappointing piece of crap. As a stand alone movie it is a scifi thriller filled with inconsistencies, weak characters, and a plot that simply falls apart because of forced scenes with bad characterization. I don't even feel Ridley Scott remotely brought his A-game to the cinematography and direction. There were maybe 2 really good scenes in the movie, and a bunch of average serviceable stuff. Meh.
Expendable.
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And Battleship and Transformers are made for.....?
Saw this tonight. *sigh* What a missed opportunities. The film had too many plot strands to devote enough time to each one of them. The characters were disposed like they're insignificant and not even in inventive manner.
Also, the makeup job in this film is horrendous. The tension was barely there. This is unfortunate because the 1st half of the film was quite good but they seem to have no idea how to end it properly. Not to mention the inconsistencies of how an element in this film is supposed to work.
Also, the makeup job in this film is horrendous. The tension was barely there. This is unfortunate because the 1st half of the film was quite good but they seem to have no idea how to end it properly. Not to mention the inconsistencies of how an element in this film is supposed to work.
One of the laziest reviews I think he has ever written
Don't hate just to hate
Every writes lazy reviews of scifi movies. He loves the genre and seems to turn off his higher critical faculties when watching them
I'm not a hater I wanted to love the movie and Ebert is the only critic I looked to before the movie came out. I saw that he gave it 4 stars and it got me excited ...
MarshMellow96
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At least, those don't pretend to be intelligent science fiction...
After reading this, I do agree that the prologue ending up spoiling some moments that could have been greater without it. But at the same time that was a beautiful way to show the origin of human life.
universalmind
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raking in the benjamins
I hope to god he does so I know he can't write both. Man should never get another writing job again.
elongation
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I completely agree.
And the ship rolling scene was just laughable, forget logic let's not move to the side
Get hyped for Star Trek 2! Might be the greatest scifi comedy of all time if we approach it with the right mindset!
I love how people keep blaming Lindelof for the script of this movie even though he wasn't the main writer.
Actually he was the "main writer". He is not the first writer, but he's the last one. That's what really counts. He was the one who worked directly with Scott throughout the pre-production and shooting process to come up with the final shooting script. He was the one doing all the publicity rounds with Scott. If the movie turned out to be brilliant, he would be the one getting all the credit. So it is only fair that since the script is a disaster, he gets the blame as well. If all these problems were in the original script and he didn't fix them, what did they pay him for?
ViewtifulJC
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Wait, let me get this straight: Star Trek 2 is not only written by Orci/Kurtzman, but Lost guy as well!?
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Probably more due to the Metroid franchise being heavily inspired by Ridley Scott and Alien in design etc.
From what I've read, Jon Sphaits was pretty much hands-off with the project once Lindelof was brought on board. I really hope someone leaks his pre-Lindelof draft, since I suspect that a great deal of the stupid things in this film weren't his doing at all.
FWIW, I did end up with eight of those totally sweet IMAX posters, so I think I came out ahead in the end.
SpeedingUptoStop
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I love how Lindelof can push around a director who has been in the game for something like 30 years now. This narrative is almost as cohesive as Prometheus'. A lot of the plot holes have some typical Ridley scars on them. Maybe it was on Lindelof to write better stuff so it didn't get cut, but I guess we won't know until the bluray hits as to why Ridley would make some of the decisions he did.
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The fact that anyone supports Hillary boggles my mind... I have tested between 130-160 on IQ tests
Prometheus.....was the biggest turd of a film I've seen in some time. To call it disappointing would be an understatement - it was an absolute travesty. Laughable at times, even. Visually stunning, but ruined by piss poor casting and acting, gaping plot and scenario holes, a convoluted script, awful dialogue, and worst of all made-for television editing and use of music. An uber-big budget Alien fanfic, pretty much.
It's not that he pushed around Ridley Scott. It is that Ridley Scott is far more interested in the visuals, the look of his movies. He has never once written a script for one of his films.
Ridley Scott is brilliant at what he does. His movies will always look gorgeous. He has one of the best eyes for gorgeous direction of any director ever. But when it comes to the plot of his films it all relies on whether he has a competent writer. He is very hands-off when it comes to the script.
...that's still on Ridley though. If he wants to be solely concerned with how a movie looks, then he should be a DP or an art director. The director of a movie isn't absolved of a script's problems just because he takes a hands-off approach to the writing stage.
I'm not going to excuse Ridley of any responsibility here. He is the director and producer. It was totally on him to make sure the script was up to par and that he was shooting a coherent narrative with consistent plot elements. If he didn't care, or failed to address such issues, it's totally on him too. But Lindelof was brought in as someone who they felt they could count on for a solid script, and he's clearly not that man.
Angry Fork
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Ebert likes practically everything these days unless it's sex and the city or something that's real low budget drivel.
I remember reading him saying that the older he gets the less critical he gets because he just watches movies now for entertainment or something along those lines, it was an excuse for giving Transformers or some similar movie a high score. Basically when he feels like it, depending on the movie he's a 'shut your brain off' kind of reviewer. You can't trust his opinions.
You haven't seen enough movies.
I do hope this is successful though as it may give other studios incentive to do more R rated sci-fi. But just because it wasn't absolute shit doesn't mean it should be hailed as a modern masterpiece when it isn't.
I thought the 3D was really good, honestly it changed my opinion of it. I loved it in Avatar and thought only Cameron was capable of doing it right but now I look at Prometheus trailers and I want it to be in 3D. It feels much more fun and immersive, the hobbit trailer was in 3D and that was done well also. It makes me hope 3D is used more often on these kinds of movies but ONLY if it's done right.
I remember reading him saying that the older he gets the less critical he gets because he just watches movies now for entertainment or something along those lines, it was an excuse for giving Transformers or some similar movie a high score. Basically when he feels like it, depending on the movie he's a 'shut your brain off' kind of reviewer. You can't trust his opinions.
You haven't seen enough movies.
I do hope this is successful though as it may give other studios incentive to do more R rated sci-fi. But just because it wasn't absolute shit doesn't mean it should be hailed as a modern masterpiece when it isn't.
I thought the 3D was really good, honestly it changed my opinion of it. I loved it in Avatar and thought only Cameron was capable of doing it right but now I look at Prometheus trailers and I want it to be in 3D. It feels much more fun and immersive, the hobbit trailer was in 3D and that was done well also. It makes me hope 3D is used more often on these kinds of movies but ONLY if it's done right.
I fucking love Riddick movies.
Like I told someone else, that was the most neutral review I've ever read that tells you shit
I'm pretty convinced the people who say this shit haven't even paid attention to the script or thought about the script at all. It's decent if you're in it for the visuals but the script being bad isn't subjective.
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VistraNorrez
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And yet you'll praise both Alien and Aliens. Sorry but they do tons of dumbshit in both those movies. It's amazing how people will look at those films as masterpieces (and I do by the way) and act like they are perfect and teardown Prometheus.
Kane getting close to the Alien Egg, watching it hatch, and then putting his head practically inside it is as dumb as anything any character did in Prometheus. Especially considering they are on a derelict alien ship with a dead gigantic alien in the previous room that appears to have had his chest exploded.
Brett going off by himself to find the cat is dumb, it's even dumber than what Kane does and Parker and Ripley are equally dumb for encouraging such behavior.
Dallas going down the shaft is also pretty dumb but not quite as dumb as those other situations.
But the reason that dumbness doesn't matter is because all the characters in Alien films are driven by curiosity. Curiosity, in spite of logic time and time again telling us to not do something, has killed an innumerable amount of people throughout human history. It's probably the number one killer of the human race when you think about it. Yet we still keep touching things we shouldn't be touching or going down dark paths that can only lead to horrible happenings.
As for David, you are looking at him like he is a human and you are creating problems where they don't exist. David's motivations are quite simple; to learn and serve. It's basically said so in the film and it's what he does. He is clearly working on the orders of
Peter Weyland
He doesn't care about life or death because it that doesn't exist for him. So by infecting Holloway it doesn't matter to him what the results are, just that he gets results
As for your other spoiler. I bring you back to Ash in Alien. After he tries to directly kill the rest of the crew, and they incapacitate (and decapitate) him, they still go question him. Isn't that dumb? There is a vicious alien on the ship and they decide to question a robot that they never really trusted, that just tried to kill them, for what purpose? Because "he may know how to kill it". At the end of these kinds of movies what choices do these characters have anymore? Survival instincts kick in and you do what it takes to survive. They try anything and everything. That's what they do in Alien that's what they do in Prometheus.
pretty disappointing. anyone who has seen an episode of star trek or read a good science fiction novel will laugh at the poor attempt at scifi in this movie. it was convoluted, confusing, uninteresting. i did have fun watching the movie though, the world and special effects were great. i loved fassbender as david. everything else just screamed "editor!"
i really think the reign of omnipotent directors need to come to an end. it seems like every idea that comes to mind is utilized in these big budget films because no one has the balls to tell these directors/producers/writers "no that idea is bad". (cough lucas)
i really think the reign of omnipotent directors need to come to an end. it seems like every idea that comes to mind is utilized in these big budget films because no one has the balls to tell these directors/producers/writers "no that idea is bad". (cough lucas)
Man, I'm bummed so many of you hated it. I absolutely loved it.
The key to loving it is to turn off your higher critical faculties and just enjoy it.
Any of you looking for high art from an Alien movie are clearly insane. None of them were. Popcorn flicks the whole lot of them.
The key to loving it is to turn off your higher critical faculties and just enjoy it.
Any of you looking for high art from an Alien movie are clearly insane. None of them were. Popcorn flicks the whole lot of them.
That's exactly what I don't want from a movie.
I only watched Alien and the series recently, and they weren't popcorn flicks at all.
Alien and Aliens are absolutely popcorn flicks. They're just exceptionally well made too.
Yeah, but it's incidental.
VistraNorrez
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I'm with you, but I'm not bummed people hate it and I don't think you need to turn off critical faculties to enjoy Prometheus or Alien or Aliens. I think people should use their critical thinking more actually. In my last few posts in this thread I've tried to look deeply at Prometheus and analyze it as well as my abilities let me. I'm loving the film the more I do that.
People always criticize horror films, or films where characters are put in dire situations, for the lack of logic. But what happens every time actual people are put in terrible situations is their logic gets all messed up. You are not thinking critically if you think characters are always acting logical when the pressure is on them to survive. Now the level of illogicality is something that is always going to burn people. It's like comedy in that not everyone is going to react the same. Some things just don't work for people. I can't be bummed towards others for that. At least not if they back it up.
Monocle
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IMAX for sure. You'll get your money's worth. The 3D in Prometheus isn't the pop-up storybook garbage you see in post-converted movies.
Angry Fork
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TWENTY ONE US DOLLARS
Plus 2$ convenience fee for getting it online.
Ugh. I rarely go to theaters so it's not that bad and the movie was enjoyable (3D was good too) but good grief.
Escape Goat
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Theres nothing convenient about paying more for online. 
I loved this movie. AndOMGosh @ the ticket prices. It was 12 buck when i went to see avengers on 3d when it came out and now it's up to 15. Bought two tickets and snacks all totalling 50 bucks. That's freaking absurd. Agh!
Anywho, I've never seen the alien movies and since i'm not big on thrillers i don't think i will. So many things went right over my head tho, like
Anywho, I've never seen the alien movies and since i'm not big on thrillers i don't think i will. So many things went right over my head tho, like
who was the humanoid being that commited suicide in the beginning of the movie. Why was that android infecting other people with the virus......etc etc
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