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[Dan]

I've never been big into the Alien franchise. Seen the movies, got some of the bigger nods in the films (were probably a lot of smaller nods I missed). I still didn't care for it, all my problems with it were with this movie my itself, and nothing to do with how it connects to the Alien films.

Yup. The Alien connections don't even have to be considered since the movie failed at all the basics of even working on its own.

I don't see how having terribly constructed stories is a step in the right direction for SF films. Having Ridley Scott, sure, but everything else? Fuck that.

It had ambition at least. It completely failed at it, but if the relative success of Prometheus can get some other, hopefully better realized, adult sci-fi movies made, then great.

 

[Agent Unknown]

WOW, so is Prometheus like the Phantom Menace of Alien movies and did Ridley Scott violate our childhoods and such? Cuz....

Alien and Aliens are two of my favorite movies of all time. This is the most excited I have been for a movie since the dark knight premier. This ended up being the single greatest disappointment of my natural born life.

No it wasn't. Seriously, a movie you had high expectations for wasn't the biggest disappointment of your natural born life as a human being, OK?

Horrible movie. I'd say this movie does more damage to the franchise than AvP, Resurrection or the rest of the stuff after Aliens.

More over the top hyperbole and overreaction. More damage to the series than the AvP movies and Resurrection? Seriously doubting this. This to me feels like when people go over the top when insisiting that NSMB series is ruining or "diluting" the SMB franchise (gripes with the "tired"/overused art style aside).

Somebody please take Blade Runner from this man. Nothing here even felt like a Ridley Scott movie. Prometheus was truly Scott Free.

This and other 'worst movie I've ever seen/this year' type posts totally remind me of summer 2005 when I was on another forum and people were bashing War of the Worlds to a pulp, saying it was awful, "Spielberg completely failed, this is one of his worst movies and proves he has lost what it takes to make truly good movies, there were so many scenes that insulted my intelligence blah, blah, blah." Then I saw it and while it had some flaws I still LOVED it. I expect this to be no different.

I'm not trying to slam people who didn't like the movie who probably have much better composed posts then the one I'm quoting/referencing, but this kind of stuff just feels soooo May 1999, ya know?

 

[Phonomezer]

I fucking loved it *.*

 

[GhaleonEB]

Back from a second viewing just now. The film is so much better the second time through - many, many pieces clicked into place.

Writing stuff up in the spoiler thread.

 

[TheChewyWaffles]

Awful flick. I'm a huge RS fan and this was an abomination.

 

[duckroll]

Its still a lesser movie compared to Avatar in almost every fashion, regardless of original intent.

I would accept that Prometheus is better than John Carter however.

I like all 3 of these films, but there's no question as to their order quality wise.

That's an odd comparison. Wouldn't it be better to compare films like Sunshine, Prometheus, and maybe even District 9? I find that Avatar and John Carter are nothing at all like Prometheus and comparing them directly is kinda... an odd choice.

 

[EliteArtist]

Having spent some time to myself to think about the film overall, I enjoyed it. That's really all I can ask for a movie to be. Part of that was probably the fact that I didn't really have any expectations for it even though I had seen the first two Alien movies and enjoyed them. To me, the film is trying to express ideas about humanity with some Alien fan service thrown about. I can really appreciate the visuals in this film.

Also, when did 3D glasses start to become comfortable to wear? Last 3D movie I saw was Tron Legacy and those glasses were just terrible.

 

[Koodo]

I might have to thank the backlash and the reviews for lowering my expectations. I was still WILDLY HYPED, but I went in expecting an inoffensive visual feast rather than a NEW EPOCH in Sci-Fi, and my expectations were met (if not slightly exceeded).

The script was indeed messy though. There were some grating plotholes, some absurdly dumb oversights (even by Hollywood standards), and a lack of character development for everyone. Seems like the foundations for a terrific story were there, but its execution was undercooked.

BUT WHAT A VISUAL FEAST. Just a beautiful film to stare at. The action was good too; I was on the edge of my seat for most of the movie.

And the gore was just as VILE as EXPECTED.


I'd like a sequel.

 

[gollumsluvslave]

Saw it last night, knowing some of the backlash, I went in with my expectations firmly in check.

I thought it was great, and suspect that it will get even better on repeat viewings.

Sure, there are a couple of minor nitpicks in characters and motivations, but I'm certain that these will be addressed down the line.

I for one love the fact that it raised yet more questions than it answers - that is the inevitable nature of existence is it not? Nothing at this kind of 'big idea' scale can ever be wrapped up in a nice pink ribbon!

 

[Aquavelvaman]

About to see this in 10 minutes. I hope I don't hate it like GAF seems to!

 

[Montresor]

I fucking loved it *.*

So did I. But after reading this thread, I've gone from saying this is a spectacular film to simply saying it's a flawed film that I greatly enjoyed.

 

[Numpt3]

Alien and Aliens are two of my favorite movies of all time. This is the most excited I have been for a movie since the dark knight premier. This ended up being the single greatest disappointment of my natural born life. Horrible movie. I'd say this movie does more damage to the franchise than AvP, Resurrection or the rest of the stuff after Aliens. Somebody please take Blade Runner from this man. Nothing here even felt like a Ridley Scott movie. Prometheus was truly Scott Free.

Funniest post I've read all year, it's only a movie.

Edit: Also I don't understand people complaining about the

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caesarean squid turning into to mega face hugger in a short time.... How long did it take the chest burster to turn into an adult xenomorph in the original film?

 

[Lime]

Hitler hates the movie Prometheus

"Fucking tentacles"

 

[zoukka]

Hitler hates the movie Prometheus

And we all know how bad taste Hitler had.

 

[Sleepy]

I saw it again last night with a friend of my mine who is a linguistics professor, guy's a language genius, and he offered two interpretations of what David said to the Engineer:

Spoiler

Why did you steal the flute from Ocarina of Time?

Spoiler

If Scott would have done better CGI for you guys, you may have been more scary.

Both of those may have been what warranted the violence.

 

[zoukka]

I saw it again last night with a friend of my mine who is a linguistics professor, guy's a language genius, and he offered two interpretations of what David said to the Engineer:

Spoiler

Why did you steal the flute from Ocarina of Time?

Spoiler

If Scott would have done better CGI for you guys, you may have been more scary.

Both of those may have been what warranted the violence.

Nice.

 

[Fafalada]

That's an odd comparison. Wouldn't it be better to compare films like Sunshine, Prometheus, and maybe even District 9?

I hated Sunshine - but at least that didn't spend half of the movie hammering the viewer on the head with references to other movie(s), nor did it recycle a bunch of scenes from one.

 

[Chinner]

WRONG CTHREAD

 

[Jake.]

despite several (huge) flaws, i still loved it. i was expecting alot more gore after reading so many reviews/posts, though - even the

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surgery

wasn't that violent at all.

 

[Shadow780]

I have came to the horrible revelation that male shepard bald male space dudes predates video games.

Pretty decent movie, not the best, not the worst.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

This was a good movie.

If you watch this movie, highly recommend to watch it in 3D.

 

[Solo]

Avatar is dull for doing all of those very basic things in the most straight forward way possible. Prometheus is the opposite end of the spectrum and sci fi could use way more Prometheus type films than Avatar ones.

Sci-fi could use a lot more films with awful characterizations and full of inconsistencies and plot holes? No wonder you dig Inception so much............

I don't judge movies based on what they try to do (concept). I judge them based on what they actually do (execution).

Avatar is a much better film than Prometheus.

 

[Sleepy]

Avatar is a much better film than Prometheus.

I wouldn't go THAT far, dude.

 

[Gui_PT]

Sci-fi could use a lot more films with awful characterizations and full of inconsistencies and plot holes? No wonder you dig Inception so much............

I don't judge movies based on what they try to do (concept). I judge them based on what they actually do (execution).

Avatar is a much better film than Prometheus.

Solo gets is as usual

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

I wouldn't go THAT far, dude.

Not as far as you think. It's a pretty easy summation to make.

Prometheus explores the kind of ideas I've always wanted to see explored in a big science fiction film. Only the execution it absolutely lazy.

It's like going to Disneyland for the first time in your life as a kid and you get the runs and have diarrhea for your entire visit. So you see the awesome rides from afar, but are still having a shitty time because you know what could have been if you didn't have to deal with all this shitty baggage.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Sci-fi could use a lot more films with awful characterizations and full of inconsistencies and plot holes? No wonder you dig Inception so much............

I don't judge movies based on what they try to do (concept). I judge them based on what they actually do (execution).

Avatar is a much better film than Prometheus.

Even doing all it was trying to do, Avatar accomplishes very little. Prometheus, scars and all, tries for way more. It may not accomplish all of it, but does way more for me than Avatar does.

 

[Sleepy]

Not as far as you think. It's a pretty easy summation to make.

Prometheus explores the kind of ideas I've always wanted to see explored in a big science fiction film. Only the execution it absolutely lazy.

Maybe, but Avatar is such a worthless POS.

Prometheus was just "safe." For lack of a better word. Hit all the right sci-fi beats and is so much the worse for it.

 

[Wilbur]

I fucking loathed Avatar. It looked beautiful, but whereas Prometheus was grand ideas not followed through, chaotic and ridiculous, it was also vastly entertaining and I'm still thinking about it a week later.

I left Avatar so bored. Almost 3 hours and only the last 20 minutes had been entertaining. The dialogue was poor, the lead was awful, I didn't think Saldana was anything special save for her ability to put on an accent, Lang was a cartoon villain. The flying bird thing had been done in Star Wars, the jungles looked no different than Predator save a little dash of purple and pink here and there, the fucking tree shit had no emotional effect on me whatsoever.

And I wasn't entertained. In 160 minutes, only the gunships getting pulled to shit entertained me.

 

[thesoapster]

Are we really going down this road? They are quite different movies despite being both space scifi films (though Prometheus to me fits in as more of a "true" scifi). They try to accomplish different things. I don't see the point in trying to compare them.

 

[Wilbur]

Are we really going down this road? They are quite different movies despite being both space scifi films (though Prometheus to me fits in as more of a "true" scifi). They try to accomplish different things. I don't see the point in trying to compare them.

I think they're pretty easily comparable. Prometheus I think tries to disguise itself as being a true sci-fi, and the first half does this. But the second half is just blockbuster fare pretty similar to Avatar's final act.

I wouldn't have mentioned it if others hadn't, but it's part of the conversation right now so thought I would. Happy to leave it at that though.

 

[kinggroin]

Its so odd. Prometheus was a disjointed, chaotic mess of a movie with some phenominal ideas to play off of. It had poor writing, awkward pacing, and left us asking a lot more questions than we came in with (though to be fair, sequels are expected).


Yet, I can't stop thinking about it. I loved it in fact.

I really hope we see a follow up or two that fills in the rest of the blanks. Though finally understanding the origin and purpose of the xenomorphs was pretty damn awesome on its own.

 

[Wilbur]

Its so odd. Prometheus was a disjointed, chaotic mess of a movie with some phenominal ideas to play off of. It had poor writing, awkward pacing, and left us asking a lot more questions than we came in with (though to be fair, sequels are expected).


Yet, I can't stop thinking about it. I loved it in fact.

I really hope we see a follow up or two that fills in the rest of the blanks. Though finally understanding the origin and purpose of the xenomorphs was pretty damn awesome on its own.

It's like you've read my mind

 

[zoukka]

I don't judge movies based on what they try to do (concept). I judge them based on what they actually do (execution).

Avatar is a much better film than Prometheus.

Prometheus shot to the moon and landed somehwhere in between.
Avatar shot to your neigbours yard and landed on a stale cup of light beer.

 

[MyEpitomeCliché]

Its so odd. Prometheus was a disjointed, chaotic mess of a movie with some phenominal ideas to play off of. It had poor writing, awkward pacing, and left us asking a lot more questions than we came in with (though to be fair, sequels are expected).


Yet, I can't stop thinking about it. I loved it in fact.

I really hope we see a follow up or two that fills in the rest of the blanks. Though finally understanding the origin and purpose of the xenomorphs was pretty damn awesome on its own.

Yes. I don't think since District 9 have I walked out of a summer blockbuster and actually felt genuinely compelled to contemplate what had just transpired as I did after this. As flawed as Prometheus is, I'll gladly take this type of film during the summer months over the mundane superhero/toy franchise bullshit that we are constantly inundated with every year. Unlike The Avengers and similar mindless modern summer-time bombast, my friend and I actually found ourselves discussing this film well after it was over (mostly lore theories), and it hasn't completely vacated my thoughts this morning, either.

 

[JB1981]

Yes. I don't think since District 9 have I walked out of a summer blockbuster and actually felt genuinely compelled to contemplate what had just transpired as I did after this. As flawed as Prometheus is, I'll gladly take this type of film during the summer months over the mundane superhero/toy franchise bullshit that we are constantly inundated with every year. Unlike The Avengers and similar mindless modern summer-time bombast, my friend and I actually found ourselves discussing this film well after it was over (mostly lore theories), and it hasn't completely vacated my thoughts this morning, either.

I haven't been able to stop thinking about it either. I'm on the net all day, just devouring all the info I can. And I really want to see the movie again. Like really badly.

 

[kaching]

I haven't been able to stop thinking about it either. I'm on the net all day, warning people to avoid it at all costs. I just can't believe what a mess this turned out to be.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

I haven't been able to stop thinking about it either. I'm on the net all day, warning people to avoid it at all costs. I just can't believe what a mess this turned out to be.

While the effort is appreciated by a select few, it's probably a far more intelligent to use your remaining life force to tell people about things you like, instead of wasting your time coming off like an insufferable jackass.

 

[kaching]

I usually don't waste my time. There are exceptions though and this one pushed all the wrong buttons for me. I'm not actually wasting all my time on the Internet today though, if it helps.

 

[Foreign Jackass]

Sci-fi could use a lot more films with awful characterizations and full of inconsistencies and plot holes? No wonder you dig Inception so much............

I don't judge movies based on what they try to do (concept). I judge them based on what they actually do (execution).

Avatar is a much better film than Prometheus.

I agree with what you say. Apart from using Avatar and the word better in the same sentence.

Seriously, I was more entertained by Prometheus than I was with Avatar. The friend I went to see Avatar with went for a cigarette break in the middle of the movie. That never happens. Avatar was more boring than any science-fiction movie I've ever seen.

 

[Insane Metal]

Holy shit, meltdowns all around.

"Worst movie I've ever seen".

Even if the movie SUCKS BADLY, saying it's the worst movie someone ever watched is incredibly riduclous. Hyperbole at its maximum.

 

[Erigu]

While the effort is appreciated by a select few, it's probably a far more intelligent to use your remaining life force to tell people about things you like, instead of wasting your time coming off like an insufferable jackass.

Clearly, there are many ways of coming off like an insufferable jackass...

 

[Mr_eX]

I really hope there's a directors cut that fixes this mess of a movie.

 

[Mr_eX]

Avatar is a much better film than Prometheus.

Agreed. I'd even say Alien 3 is better than Prometheus.

 

[drspeedy]

So... Only 3D version near me is imax, is it worth the extra $4 (or whatever it is now) to see it in 3D and/or imax?

Expecting to be slightly let down, but still going to see it.

One more- is there really that much gore? Seems like it's more than the usual Hollywood sci fi level based on the posts in here, and potentially just unnecessary in the film.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

Agreed. I'd even say Alien 3 is better than Prometheus.

Nah.

For me it goes like this:

Amazing:

Alien

Fantastic (and more easily re-watchable):

Aliens

Great with flaws:

Prometheus

Ok:

Alien 3

Abominations:

Everything else.

 

[Annoying Old Party Man]

A fantastic, fantastic film with some problems here and there. Visual design was of stratospheric quality, actually it might have been the most impressive one I've seen in years.

The main idea was deeply rooted in sci-fi and I like the way it leaves with so many questions - I don't require resolution from all movies. But I can't understand about the script's problems, those stupid Lost writers seem to mess up everything.

Still, don't understand Gaf's hate and I'm willing to bet that in a few years everyone is going to be glossing about this - I mean, GAF thinks this is terrible and glosses over that mindless shit that is The Avengers?

 

[Slurmer]

Agreed. I'd even say Alien 3 is better than Prometheus.

Nahhhh

 

[cloud_sleep]

I was disappointed. I agree with most of the goofy plot holes and weak characters / motivations the have been raised. I see that one of Lost's show runners wrote the script. That doesn't surprise me. That show often had characters making bone headed decisions for inscrutable reasons that were never satisfactorily explained in addition to antagonists with mysterious agendas. I found the score took tension away rather than added it. The film looked great, what I could see of it. The reald glasses dimmed everything so much that I will probably rent the blu-ray just to fully appreciate the design details. What a shame. Should have tried harder.

 

[cloud_sleep]

Still, don't understand Gaf's hate and I'm willing to bet that in a few years everyone is going to be glossing about this - I mean, GAF thinks this is terrible and glosses over that mindless shit that is The Avengers?

I think the film should get props for at least trying to be intelligent but I don't believe that the writers were up to it. Brilliant design and production values though.

 

[Tedesco!]

Agreed. I'd even say Alien 3 is better than Prometheus.

Not even I would go that far....