C'mon, dude.
They could make fancy suits without making them retro. I mean I laughed when I saw these bubbles.
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They could make fancy suits without making them retro. I mean I laughed when I saw these bubbles.
It has to fit in with the tech we saw in Alien, which was a 1970s view of the future, directly ripped from 2001 which was a 1960s view of the future. It makes sense to have goofy things like that in the universe.
Like surgical staples. Come on, they stopped using those 100 years before Prometheus was meant to be set.
Agent Unknown
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No actually I did give it more than "two second's thought" considering these hashed to death aesthetic complaints have been going on since the very first set photos. And if it fits in with serious 60s/70s sci fi movies I don't see how that's a bad thing.
So do you also laugh at Ripley and the Nostromo crew toddling around in baggy pants astronaut suits with old school NASA style helmets? The Prometheus suits look retro but in a cool, functional way. It's not like Lost in Space style crap, come on.
That's what I said...
What other design would give you the widest FOV? They're explorers/geologists/archeologists/religiousists. They need to observe and capture details.
See: the front glass panels of modern science submarines.
Just finished watching it. Maybe it was the drastically lowered expectations, but I really enjoyed it. There are clear problems with the script and the editing, but I felt like the direction and the performances of Fassbender and Rapace made up for it. I'm curious if there will be an extended cut, because I feel like many of the issues with the film were due to the film not having enough room to breathe.
David absolutely stole every scene he was in. I didn't think about how similar he looked to
until they made that connection, lol. It's ironic how the android characters always seem to be the best-written ones in this series.
They obviously left things quite open for a sequel. I have high hopes for that if they can get better writing,
David absolutely stole every scene he was in. I didn't think about how similar he looked to
Lawrence of Arabia
That alien birth scene, there's zero chance this movie was ever getting a PG-13. Also, Vickers felt like one of the most pointless characters ever conceived. At least she had an appropriately meaningless and hilarious death. Seriously though, she contributed nothing and served no purpose.
They obviously left things quite open for a sequel. I have high hopes for that if they can get better writing,
since the two best characters survived.
Agent Unknown
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Since IIRC you at one time you liked the movie a lot, if you have some time would you mind answering the question I had in this post, I'd be interested to hear your response;
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=38771442
Sorry man, I misinterpreted what you said.
This was how I interpreted it as well.
To be fair, he did ask Charlie right before what he would do to find out the truth. So you could say Charlie got what he asked for.
Anton Sugar
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Well, let's not forget the scene that happened right before the
infection
David is somewhere alone
, but talking to an earpiece, and says something along the lines of "Yes, I'll make sure/Yes, I'll take care of it" or something like that. Pretty sure he was following an order there.
Sorry, I missed that.
Yeh, I really liked the movie when I saw it, but then I thought it had the right sort of confusion. I enjoyed the ambiguity of the humans being wrong about everything they tell the audience. However, everything I've read post-release is basically the Scott/Lindelof media circus where they said everything is literal and have thrown in their own completely crazy versions of themes explored.
I don't know what to believe, they could be winding people up, but I know it's still a good sci-fi film regardless of their post-release musings. They just aren't handling the situation well at all and it's annoying because I'm sure somewhere lies a cut of the movie that is able to stand up with the genre's greats. Unfortunately it's not the theatrical edit, and I knew that after the first time I saw it, but it whet my appetite for future installments or extended editions so job done.
Just hope they don't keep spoiling their art by tweaking it after its been sold.
John Rabbit
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they stopped using surgical staples in 1993? news to me.
Maybe they have their uses when
you perform instant invasive surgery and need to be stitched up fast.
Agent Unknown
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Interesting, thanks for the clarification.
It's a laser that cuts her open, why can't a laser heal the skin back up? Isn't that technology being explored already? I'm no doctor.
Vigilant Walrus
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Anyone else still thinking of this film?
Been a week since I saw it. It had flaws and some weak characters and script things. BUT.
But I still liked it. And I want more. Right now they have started something that they need to answer. I am not even sure if Scott should direct. How about giving it to the guy who did District 9? He could make an compelling movie about the origins of the engineers.
Prometheus is strange. Why am I thinking about it? I just found the universe compelling. It just didn't satisfy and I think more is needed here. It didn't answer the questions. A friend told me that this was not the planet featured in Alien 1. That was a different ship with a different dead engineer in the cockpit.
Been a week since I saw it. It had flaws and some weak characters and script things. BUT.
But I still liked it. And I want more. Right now they have started something that they need to answer. I am not even sure if Scott should direct. How about giving it to the guy who did District 9? He could make an compelling movie about the origins of the engineers.
Prometheus is strange. Why am I thinking about it? I just found the universe compelling. It just didn't satisfy and I think more is needed here. It didn't answer the questions. A friend told me that this was not the planet featured in Alien 1. That was a different ship with a different dead engineer in the cockpit.
I couldn't get over - even while actively watching it - how great the 3D was. Amazing visuals in general I expected from Ridley, but the 3D was quite something. It's only the second movie in 3D I've seen after Avatar and it makes me wonder what I've been missing.
People have said the 3D in this is exceptional so probably not much, but it's still enough to give me pause.
People have said the 3D in this is exceptional so probably not much, but it's still enough to give me pause.
Technical noms, sure. Anything related to creative and I'm suiciding.
10 noms for best picture still?
Honestly it was probably just to make the scene grosser.
No. 5+.
Nice to have met you
After the Halo debacle, he's not going to go work in someone else's universe, and good for him. I'm happy having him out there, dedicated to making original sci-fi movies.
Baron
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What's the consensus on seeing Prometheus in IMAX 3D versus regular old 3D? Is it orders of magnitude more neat-o in IMAX? If I have the option, should I drive another 30 minutes to catch it in IMAX? Why am I capitalizing imax?
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haha, I see this question was posed and answered already. So IMAX is that much better, eh? Okay, I'll do the IMAX. Someone mentioned wearing eyeglasses and using IMAX 3D glasses- is that obtrusive?
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haha, I see this question was posed and answered already. So IMAX is that much better, eh? Okay, I'll do the IMAX. Someone mentioned wearing eyeglasses and using IMAX 3D glasses- is that obtrusive?
The Librarian
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You think it has a chance for cinematography?
On its own merits, maybe. But I think it has some REALLY stiff competition this year.
I didn't find them to be obtrusive, but it helps that they're massive compared to the average pair of 3D glasses.
indigo-cyclops
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I ended up seeing it in regular-vision. The price was 1/3 of the price. It looked amazing still, but I really wish they would do just an IMAX showing minus the 3D.
Demoncarnotaur
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Movie isn't empty, its just sloppy. Directors cut could help a lot, and I feel if this were announced as a new series with multiple parts people wouldn't be as pissed with the ambiguity of the movie.
I like it, and while I agree with a lot of the criticisms I don't think the movie is fundamentally broken, and I still stand by opinion- The movie is a fucking blast, a visual masterpiece and something that invokes thought. But its sloppy and that weighs it down for sure.
Yeah, that's kind of how I feel.
By empty, I mean that there's implied depth that, since it falters in so many of the fundamentals, keeps me from wanting to look deeper.
I still really enjoyed it, though. Just my initial wow wore off once I read about it more.
Go see it a second time. Honestly. Much better experience.
I do want to say that Lindelof getting all of the hate is ridiculous.
He's the writer of the film, or, ONE of the writers on the film. This is Ridley's baby, and Ridley is the director...he was there the entire time. And Ridley is a bit of a curmudgeon, if he didn't like it, he wouldn't have shot it.
Ridley clearly still has the eye as the movie was breathtaking, but he has just as much, if not more input than Lindelof did.
People just want to hate on Lindelof.
He's the writer of the film, or, ONE of the writers on the film. This is Ridley's baby, and Ridley is the director...he was there the entire time. And Ridley is a bit of a curmudgeon, if he didn't like it, he wouldn't have shot it.
Ridley clearly still has the eye as the movie was breathtaking, but he has just as much, if not more input than Lindelof did.
People just want to hate on Lindelof.
Aw. Don't do that, man. You loved this movie yesterday. Don't let the internet change your opinion.
And I'm not saying this as a fan of the movie. I thought it was decent at best, and the story gets dumber the more I think about it.
But I just hate seeing the bitter cynicism of the internet ruin the way people enjoy things. Maybe certain aspects of the movie weren't quite as great in retrospect, but if you walked out of that theater loving it, then there are absolutely things you enjoyed about it. Don't let the internet tell you otherwise.
I don't typically do that. It wasn't just the internet, I talked with my brother about it and we came to some of the same conclusions.
I still like the movie, I think it's a great experience, but I'm someone who likes to read up on movies that I really like to discuss with others...and most times it is great, but in this case, I realized a few things that I didn't while in the theater.
I still like it, though.
Just saw the movie at a theater we've never been to. First off the theater was the best I've ever been to. You have to be 21 or older to enter, there's about 20 pairs of seats total, waiters come out before the movie to take dinner orders, chairs are huge and comfy with swivel tables to put our food. It was so easy to be sucked into this movie when watching it in a small quiet theater, I fucking loved it.
The movie was incredible, beautiful, haunting, captivating, just so damn good. I love movies that dive into those feelings of where we came from and why we're here. The 3D was great and felt completely natural especially when
The whole idea of going to another planet and searching for these creators that end up being our ancient ancestors had me on the edge of me seat the entire time wanting to learn more. I honestly have no idea why so many people here hate the movie just because there are some religious themes or because it doesn't match up with perfectly with Ailen. I truly feel sad for someone who couldn't just sit back and enjoy it because "oh my god she said that's what she chooses to believe! But she's a scientist! This can't be!" Come on, I'm not a religious person at all and I don't let that stupid shit suck the fun out of watching the movie. I'm really glad I didnt obssess over interviews or every little piece of info that came out since I saw the first trailer.
The movie was incredible, beautiful, haunting, captivating, just so damn good. I love movies that dive into those feelings of where we came from and why we're here. The 3D was great and felt completely natural especially when
the hologram recording activated the giant map of the universe and Earth.
brandonh83
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The internet claims another.
Why not? "The internet" may make good points.
The 3D adds a lot of elegance to the visuals. There are many shots that I would not want to see in 2D, thats how good the 3D implementation was.
Best way to explain it is it makes it feel more intimate in the cases of scenes on the ship for example, and also enhances the scale when appropriate. Seeing it in IMAX with the larger aspect ratio helps too.
Except everything related to the direction was great, Scott did a great job with what he had to work with, and pretty much every problem lies with the writing. There's a good reason people hate Lindelof.
brandonh83
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The problem is everyone is assuming that all faults are his. There may have been things in the script that weren't shot, or included in the final cut which wouldn't be Lindelof's fault. If the script is ever released for us to read, that'd be different but we're just left making assumptions and pointing fingers in random directions. I think people could very well discuss the problems without necessarily pretending like we know exactly who made them.
Also there's more to directing than just directing on set, like being content with the script and making sure that everything makes sense.
That's not quite how it works. Lindelof doesn't pen a script and go "Here shoot" and it's on set, no adjustments.
They do table reads, they have editors, and Ridley stamps everything and can make adjustments on the fly on set or while they look at dailies.
To think that it falls on Lindelof 'just cause' is crazy.
Yep.
absolutely agree, but why are they so HUGE?
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