P R O M E T H E U S |OT| Ridley Scott goes back to Building Better Worlds
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Sickboy007
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devilinanewdress
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Targaryen nip slips are allowed, trust. And as for Rotten Tomatoes, that's legit only on the UK site, I'm just another critic on the American equivalent. No review from me though. Every critic in the world has the exact same opinion of the film.
I've seen people heavily warned for a lot less than what you haveEviLore said:
This is 100% not true
brandonh83
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The Phantom Menace didn't lead into A New Hope and set up a sequel of its own, too. Prometheus is an Alien prequel. It takes place 30 years before Alien. It's set in the same universe. The exact same thing could be said about the SW prequels.
They can skip around it all they want, but it's ridiculous. If they wanted to make a standalone movie nobody was forcing them to put it in the same universe as Alien.
Good Job Bob
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Phantom Menace was intended to be the first film in a trilogy of films that led up to A New Hope.
I don't think Prometheus is intended to be the first film in a trilogy that leads up to Alien.
brandonh83
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And Prometheus was intended to be the first film of a few that lead into Alien. It's the same shit.
Nappuccino
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I think it sets up and gives some knowlege of how some bits of Alien came to be... but that doesn't mean the events of this movie directly impacted those of Alien. If that makes sense.
brandonh83
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maybe this just comes down to semantics concerning the meaning of a "prequel." the movie I watched, to me, was deliberately a prequel to Alien. even Ridley Scott said that the movie ends without connecting to Alien, but that the next one would get us there or something-- just like the Star Wars prequels. it can have a self-contained story but the SW prequels also had self-contained stories too. what happens in TPM and even AOTC has zilch to do with what happens in ANH, for example.
I'm not sure using Star Wars as an example really gets us anywhere, but it does come down to semantics. The final shot of Prometheus has stuff that has definite clear connections to the original film. Before that I found it to be only tangentially related. But the connections at the end don't lead directly into Alien, they just imply what the path may be.
So it's not a prequel in that it leads directly into Alien, but it is one in that it definitely suggests a timeline of pertinent events that would lead to Alien.
So it's not a prequel in that it leads directly into Alien, but it is one in that it definitely suggests a timeline of pertinent events that would lead to Alien.
brandonh83
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Which I still think is different because we knew that would lead into further movies that would then lead into ANH, where Ridley's talk on Prometheus 2 doesn't convince me that it will lead directly into Alien.Just like The Phantom Menace.
brandonh83
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Sure, but Prometheus planted the seeds for Alien and show us how more than a few things in Alien and Aliens came to be. That, to me at least, is enough for me to call it a prequel.
As the plot has no direct ties, it isn't a prequel.
"Set in the same universe and a little bit before" isn't what prequel means.
But you knew that already, Solo.
But it just muddles things because this isn't the same planet as the first movie, nor does this Alien even look like the ones from that movie.
Plus it totally blows the tone they were trying to convey at the end of the movie with Shaw leaving. Pretty horrible all around.
I think it DOES have direct ties. It would be different if the film had space jockeys, but didn't involve
xenos, face huggers or the corporation and their android's origins.
I mean, really most prequels involve connections just as tenuous.
SCULLIBUNDO
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So Phantom Menace isn't a prequel then?
Talladega Knight
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having direct ties or not does not a prequel make according to its definition. prometheus' story precedes alien, therefore it is a prequel. a loose prequel mind you, but a prequel nonetheless.
Winnie the Pimp
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Other question: not having seen this yet, is it worth watching? Or am i better off rewatching Blade Runner if i wanna see a good Ridley Scott movie?
It is a prequel, it uses the same charachter, its very tied to what is to come (since this is set in motion in these movies)... Prometheus spoiler
there are to many questions unanswered so we can't say if the build up is for something else
Uh, Phantom Menace has direct ties to the plot, characters and events of the Original Trilogy. Don't do this to me, Sculli. You're smart and educated and know the difference.
It's definitely worth watching, but if you're not too bothered wait for a home release.
Winnie the Pimp
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ok i might just do that... it's just that i am picking up negative vibes all over this thread here and i am not sure why, since the movie does have an IMDB score of 7.7 so it can't be truly bad i guess, maybe people are just disappointed because of Alien related prequel talk and expectations and what not...
Whatever you do... don't adjust your expectations based on what GAF says. GAF says Inception is the movie of forever.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I guess it does feel more like an Alien remake than a prequel.
Just because the structure and some shots pay homage to Alien... no.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Structure, characters, shots, scenes, dialogue..
You're stretching it. A lot.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Which part do you disagree with exactly?
I disagree with the remake comment.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I didn't say it WAS a remake. I said it was more a remake than a prequel. It's kind of like last year's incarnation of The Thing.
It's funny because last time we chatted you insisted that it wad a clear as a day prequel to Alien. It's not even remotely close to a movie remake.
SCULLIBUNDO
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It is a prequel to me. You know it's going to lead into another film that sets up Alien.
Alas, what I have really been saying is as clear as day is that it's an Alien movie, despite all the bullshitting Scott and Lindelof spun.
Alas, what I have really been saying is as clear as day is that it's an Alien movie, despite all the bullshitting Scott and Lindelof spun.
Fallout-NL
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Come on man. Alien and Blade Runner are fucking gorgeous to look at. Like 'hold your breath' beautiful.
I'm kind of concerned that this is going to end up being the death-knell for tentpole R-rated horror films.
Word of mouth can't be very good at this point, and I don't see this one having much in the way of legs. If Lindelof had put down the pipe and written a good script, or if Scott had realized that the story needed massive improvements, maybe we'd have a good film, word of mouth would kick ass, and the film would do gang-busters at the box office.
Instead, we'll probably never get another R-rated film like this again.
Thanks a lot, Ridley and Damon.
Word of mouth can't be very good at this point, and I don't see this one having much in the way of legs. If Lindelof had put down the pipe and written a good script, or if Scott had realized that the story needed massive improvements, maybe we'd have a good film, word of mouth would kick ass, and the film would do gang-busters at the box office.
Instead, we'll probably never get another R-rated film like this again.
Thanks a lot, Ridley and Damon.
crazy monkey
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ridly said this is not alien movie but some connections o it. If you discard every other movie before it how does this movie stands?
The earnings are very repectable. Sure, it didn't quite reach the levels some had been expecting, but it will be a financial success.
You can't argue with that many lols in one post.
I think it will do fine, but a sequel probably won't. The first film in a new franchise, which this is, has to be really strong to make a second movie viable. I'm not sure if people really liked this movie enough to see a follow-up.
I don't think the movie will put people off R-rated scifi-horror though. I think it's pretty much agreed that those parts were the most entertaining in the movie.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Solo is my bro, so it's always sad when I realize he has a seeing impediment. I mean, this is a guy who think Miami Vice has better cinematography than Hugo.
Ad Infinitum
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Finally got round to watching it.
Loved it.
I was really entertained. Thank fuck I didn't watch the trailers though, that 3 minute one gives so much away! I don't care about the plot holes, I really enjoyed the film and really enjoyed the 3d. Saying this as someone who was a huge Alien & Aliens fan growing up.
Loved it.
I was really entertained. Thank fuck I didn't watch the trailers though, that 3 minute one gives so much away! I don't care about the plot holes, I really enjoyed the film and really enjoyed the 3d. Saying this as someone who was a huge Alien & Aliens fan growing up.
How do you know this if you don't watch trailers?
Yes, no disagreements there. But what is your point? Jesse James looks even better.
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