Mammoth Jones
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Completely agreed. I would add however, if you can't deal with occasionally getting a crappy tip you shouldn't be in the service industry.
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Pizza delivery guy goes an incredible racist rant after being stiffed on tip...
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Completely agreed. I would add however, if you can't deal with occasionally getting a crappy tip you shouldn't be in the service industry.
David Incorporated Esq.
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Delivery charge generally doesn't go to the driver. I know it didn't when I worked delivery. The people on the phones were nice enough to point that out when they started that policy.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Why is this? Legally speaking, you can and definitely should be able to order food without tipping. Illegally, your food can get fucked with of course. You guys make it seem that it should be legal to fuck with someone's food when they don't tip? Why else shouldn't you be ordering food if you don't tip?
Captain Sparrow
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Crap system. We need to end all systems where the generous subsidize the wages that the cheap assholes ignored.
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Deleted member 47027
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Because they do that anyway - and the big corporations pocket that money, and people think the "delivery fee" goes to the driver, when it does not. Therefore, you have customers stiffing the drivers because they think they paid for their tip - but they actually didn't.
so you don't think the added convienence of having hot food delivered to your doorstep by a person using his own gas and putting the mileage on his own car, is worth a tip, in most cases? OK. I guess I will just never, ever see eye to eye with some of you guys. It's a weird European thing I guess.
coughlanio
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It's kind of funny that for the sake of a $2 tip he no longer has an $8+ an hour job...
I think it depends on the place. My friend delivered Chinese and he got a piece of the delivery charge. He didn't work for a big chain though so it might just have been that restaurants policy.
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Deleted member 30609
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I think it's more of a weird US thing, not a weird "everywhere but the US" thing.
In this context it's America that's weird.
No, because delivery guys get paid properly over here.
I don't pay the mail guy or couriers every time they bring a package to my door.
coughlanio
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Most people here (Ireland) don't tip. Delivery drivers for example, get a decent wage, their expenses paid for (Phone, fuel etc.), and pair that with the fact I *rarely* ever have cash, and pay for food online with my card, I very rarely tip.
David Incorporated Esq.
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Maybe just gas reimbursement. At Papa John's (worked there in college) the drivers got something like $1.25 a delivery. I can't remember the number but it worked out to be a pretty even if you included oil changes.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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He's screwed himself now that he's known as a racist pizza delivery guy.
Winnie the Pimp
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wait, so in the US, the delivery drivers use their OWN cars and gas?
that's surely not the norm is it? I mean bigger places like Pizza Hut etc don't for sure, i don't know about smaller ones though, but obviously they'd have to be compensated by the employer SOMEHOW for that?
Properly? According to whom, you?
Rygar 8 Bit
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always tip them $5-10 depending on the time it takes em to get to me but would be nice to actually have it tied into the bill as a delivery charge instead
We have a ton of mom and pop pizzerias here in Jersey. They aren't fast food chains and the delivery guys use their own vehicles
Mammoth Jones
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I agreed with you up to this part. I tip *very* well. But I do so because I chose to, not because I have to.
Not tipping is pretty shitty, but it's not a violation of a social contract.
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Deleted member 47027
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It's rare for anywhere to offer cars FOR you to drive. It's an insurance nightmare.
The only compensation big chains give their drivers is in mileage - that is all. Nothing more. They pay for your gas, not your wear & tear at all.
Damn you weren't kidding
PwnCakes193
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OH god I'm so glad you posted this
Pretty sure I never agreed to anything. Just because I was born does not mean I agreed to some contract. Babies cannot make those decisions.
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Sephiroth503
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)I'm a delivery driver at pizza hut. There is a 2 dollar delivery charge on any order. we get $1.30 of that. and that barely pays for the gas, just depends on how far the run is. But I have never had to replace anything on my car. and within a few months of working there, I've had to get a new starter and replace both front axles from the wear and tear of delivering.
Sure we still get paid minimum wage unlike waitresses, but a tip is necessary to simply maintain the vehicle. My average tip is 2-3 bucks and that's all I need to be satisfied. yesterday a bunch of kids ordered 50 bucks worth of food and stiffed me, shit like that can really infuriate some people.
Sure we still get paid minimum wage unlike waitresses, but a tip is necessary to simply maintain the vehicle. My average tip is 2-3 bucks and that's all I need to be satisfied. yesterday a bunch of kids ordered 50 bucks worth of food and stiffed me, shit like that can really infuriate some people.
mescalineeyes
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Stop being so god-damn dense.
No one is forcing Pizza delivery guys to do their job. They signed up for it knowing well beforehand what the pay is going to be. They probably also knew that sometimes they won't get tipped.
So yes, sometimes people will order food and not tip. It's their prerogative. However, it's the delivery guy's job to act like a professional, because his actual compensation is paid for by the company he is working for.
I have never not tipped in my life.
I still think this whole thing is a bullshit hoax.
Why did it go straight to mailbox when she was waiting for or just ordered a delivery?
Why isn't the message showing up on her iPhone?
iNvid02
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smaller places around here (UK) do the same, the drivers use their own cars
but the restaurant covers the fuel and they earn minimum wage at least
The Elite
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I tip for delivery, I tip my barber, I tip the waiter/waitress, I tip the cab driver and I tip the bartender when ordering drinks from the bar. And I'm usually very generous with my tips too. At the same time, I'm getting really tired of the whole tip culture that seems to be growing in North America. Not sure how it is in Europe, but in NA there are tip jars everywhere now. Anytime I'm in a store, they have a small tip jar. It's getting annoying. I'd much rather see employers paying service jobs proper wages. I don't get tips for doing my job and I do service for other people. There isn't 15% thrown on top of whatever my work generates for that day. When I worked at Blockbuster I served people all day and never expected a tip. It was my job.
I get that a lot of wait staff is paid on a different minimum wage scale here in Ontario, but maybe it's time that they fix that instead of expecting everyone to tip more and more.
Paying for gas and upkeep of the car seems like something that the establishment should be partially covering. More than the $2 delivery charge.
I get that a lot of wait staff is paid on a different minimum wage scale here in Ontario, but maybe it's time that they fix that instead of expecting everyone to tip more and more.
Paying for gas and upkeep of the car seems like something that the establishment should be partially covering. More than the $2 delivery charge.
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Deleted member 47027
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Without a doubt, the worst group of people who almost -never- tip are
They scrape up any change they have, desperate for a pizza. Sucks.
college kids
They scrape up any change they have, desperate for a pizza. Sucks.
I always tip bro
Wait some restaurants offer delivery service WITHOUT having the means to offer the service?
Talk about a shitty service!
No, it is not their perogative. If you step foot in a restaurant in America, you tip. If you get food delivered to your home, you tip. If you can't tip, don't go out to eat. If you can't tip, don't order delivery service.
lol nope
ManDudeChild
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If the delivery guy is foolish enough to use his own vehicle AND pay for gas without making sure he's being paid enough without tips to make a living thats not the customers problem. Who in their right mind takes a job that doesn't allow them to make a profit?
Keru_Shiri
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The "social contract" post will be the stawman non-tippers focus on.
As a former delivery driver, I was hand out at least a $4, if not a $5+ tip. Or I pick it up myself.
Oh, and people who order during a snowstorm and don't tip are the scum of the earth.
As a former delivery driver, I was hand out at least a $4, if not a $5+ tip. Or I pick it up myself.
Oh, and people who order during a snowstorm and don't tip are the scum of the earth.
Not always that simple. I don't need to tell you that job selection isn't always perfect in this economy, so working "in-store" or for another chain isn't always an option. A lot of places lure new hires in with promises of making "$12-$15" an hour. When the customers tip, and you know how to care for your car, you can break a little above even and the system works. Problem was, Papa John's was able to cut our pay rates to less than minimum wage, while introducing a $10 meal deal to compete with Pizza Hut. The result was a lot of people who couldn't normally afford PJs ordering in droves and not tipping. I had to quit because I was actually losing money from working there.
Mammoth Jones
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Where are you getting this from my statement?
My personal feeling is that a tip is a reward for decent service. I mean, sure I can not tip just cause "fuck that, that's why!" but at the end of the day another living breathing human being is working their ass off to bring my ass food. It's not too much to ask to pay them a few bucks for the luxury.
It's not a big deal. If it were, I'd stay home and save my money. You can afford a 10$ meal but can't scrounge up a dollar or two as a tip? C'mon son....
It has nothing to do with being born dude. You made the decision to order food and have it delivered, the expectation is then you give the delivery person a tip. If you don't, then you're an asshole.
Note: I hate tipping as an institution. It's completely arbitrary and life would be so much easier if we didn't need to do it. However, in America, it's what you're supposed to do, so by not tipping you're a dick.
universalmind
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HOW CAN'T SHE TIP?
I like how he was getting honked at while he was ranting and it just set him off more.
lol
I bet that's how the nazi soldiers justified their actions too!
lol
I bet that's how the nazi soldiers justified their actions too!
Even here where tip is basically seen as absolutely extraordinary we would tip someone who would provide a delivery service with a snowstorm.
I really love how the boss forcing the employee to use his personal car and pay for the gas is not seen as the asshole in the situation though. I'm also pretty sure that illegal here, so that would also explain why we wouldn't think that's a valid reason.
Mammoth Jones
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Bullshit. Sorry but if you're in the service industry you need to grow thicker skin. People tip as a courtesy. If you can't deal with not being tipped ONCE in a while then it's time to look for a new job.
All I'm saying is it's voluntary. Not mandatory.
Beerman462
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That's a great story.
FanTomasas
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I still don't understand the mentality behind tipping.
This must be an old tradition which has to go away. Fast-food delivery is a job now, there are separate drivers whose job is to bring you items. I can't understand why you are supposed to pay them extra... for... bringing you items you ordered. Do you tip mailman?
This must be an old tradition which has to go away. Fast-food delivery is a job now, there are separate drivers whose job is to bring you items. I can't understand why you are supposed to pay them extra... for... bringing you items you ordered. Do you tip mailman?
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