Do you guys feel "Surface" was a good choice as a name for the devices?
I personally love it, might just be because of its past though.
Do you guys feel "Surface" was a good choice as a name for the devices?
Has anyone mentioned yet that by the time these things hit the market, it's likely that the iPad 4 will already be on the market for 6 months?
Shipping > Announcing.
Edit: The iPad would still be preferable to most consumers if these things were coming out todaynext year they'll be even further. This feels a lot more like the iPod & the Zune than anything.
I have nothing to complain about with this thing so I am going to completely make shit up! Must go don black turtleneck
Well guess that settles it pro version is 700 dollars. So. You really believe that to be true?
6 months was a stretch. I should have said up to 6 months. Apologies.
My guess is the RT will hit late next winter (march).
I think the Pro is going to be a heat, battery, and fan disaster and riddled with delays until late next summer.
lol? Metro is going to pass the Apple App store in a year?
what do regular Windows apps have to do with Metro apps, which are wholly different applications?
and you're aware those 100,000 apps don't work on ARM, right?
lol? Metro is going to pass the Apple App store in a year?
what do regular Windows apps have to do with Metro apps, which are wholly different applications?
and you're aware those 100,000 apps don't work on ARM, right?
Do you guys feel "Surface" was a good choice as a name for the devices?
They could do an iPad Pro as well. With a digitiser.the iPad 4 will likely ship with iOS 6 like it normally does so there isn't a great deal of change coming
It's not like they're going to announce some crazy new product that changes everything.... right?
Do you guys feel "Surface" was a good choice as a name for the devices?
Well guess that settles it pro version is 700 dollars. So. You really believe that to be true?
by late winter 2013 you mean early fall 2012 right? signs are pointing to august of this year. not sure where you're getting next year from
What is Geoff keigly talking about??? "nice hardware, where is the content?" doesn't it run basically anything that runs on windows?
be sure to look at the Asus, Acer and Lenovo Win 8 tablet offerings before deciding.The only thing I'm not liking is I heard the Pro comes out 90 days later or some crap. I'm hoping it was just bad journalism from were I read it from (as I havn't seen much on it elsewere) or Microsoft is retracting that statement. Because that would be bullshit to not have the Pro at launch.
I have nothing to complain about with this thing so I am going to completely make shit up! Must go don black turtleneck
I think the pro is $999.
I think people hoping for <800 are dreaming
I still like the Microsoft Window.Do you guys feel "Surface" was a good choice as a name for the devices?
They could do an iPad Pro as well. With a digitiser.
Windows 8 is rumored to hit in October.Oh? I've only been skimming the thread and live blogs, I thought they were both slated "2013 TBA"
I said this earlier they did a great job of confusing everyone. Including me initially.No.
Confusion is a serious issue that MS is going to have to clarify for the public. If people buy this tablet in the fall and expect to install software they already own, there will be a lot of irate customers.
People are expecting miracles. When they are calling the Pro. You better expect professional grade prices.Pro is very close in specs and size to Samsung S7 Slate (11.6", 2 lbs, Core i5) , which is $1299 for 128GB SSD.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/31/samsungs-series-7-slate-pc-hands-on/
![]()
![]()
People need to keep their pricing expectations in check.
Surface RT: $500~800
Surface Pro: $1100~$1200
I'm being optimistic about Pro's price by about $100 BTW.
It having ARM instead of an Intel is what makes it tard. I can't just install steam on it and play through my entire collection, I will instead have do with tablet style games, and if I come across any interesting programs online I'll just have to hope they exist as ARM apps.
Thought these tablets are coming a few months later than Windows 8, which would put it right around the iPad release time frame.So now we're already speculating that the iPad 4 will be out before Windows 8, even though the iPad 3 came out 3 months ago?
The iPad is immensely capable due to its hundreds of thousands of apps.If Windows RT is the "tard" version, then what is an iPad?
(answer: the iPad is an immensely capable device, and so will Windows RT be an immensely capable OS, even if it doesn't have backwards compatibility)
Thought it had to have an SSD to be called an ultrabook?
Windows 8 is rumored to hit in October.
No.
Confusion is a serious issue that MS is going to have to clarify for the public. If people buy this tablet in the fall and expect to install software they already own, there will be a lot of irate customers.
Windows 8 is rumored to hit in October.
Do you guys feel "Surface" was a good choice as a name for the devices?
Thought these tablets are coming a few months later than Windows 8, which would put it right around the iPad release time frame.
The iPad is immensely capable due to its hundreds of thousands of apps.
Thought it had to have an SSD to be called an ultrabook?
?500GB HDD + 20GB SSD
Pro is very close in specs and size to Samsung S7 Slate (11.6", 2 lbs, Core i5) , which is $1299 for 128GB SSD.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/31/samsungs-series-7-slate-pc-hands-on/
![]()
![]()
People need to keep their pricing expectations in check.
Surface RT: $500~800
Surface Pro: $1100~$1200
I'm being optimistic about Pro's price by about $100 BTW.
his comment was very specifically regarding a comment made about the RT. "where is the content?" was a question posted very clearly about Windows on ARM.The pro does, right? Answering a blanket no seems disingenuous..
100%. The fucking hoops I had to jump through to get iPad's for the team I work with was a giant chore. That pro? Hey guys, I need 10 new laptop replacement. Sold.
Cannot wait.
I said this earlier they did a great job of confusing everyone. Including me initially.
People are expecting miracles. When they are calling the Pro. You better expect professional grade prices.
Thought these tablets are coming a few months later than Windows 8, which would put it right around the iPad release time frame.
The iPad is immensely capable due to its hundreds of thousands of apps.
I still like the Microsoft Window.
W8 runs WP7 apps? Link?
Colloquy says hi. You can stay on IRC on ios.not capable enough to stay on IRC though. that's why i'd never consider an iOS device.
and also why i'm wary of WinRT... 8 Pro or bust
I said this earlier they did a great job of confusing everyone. Including me initially.
Perhaps the dumbest post yet in this thread, and not without competition.Looks like a Zune Tablet.
be sure to look at the Asus, Acer and Lenovo Win 8 tablet offerings before deciding.
I was confused back when Windows 8 was announced. I don't understand how anybody that has the minor interest in this can be confused.
Sure, if you're regular Joe that can't tell the difference between iPad 2 and 3 like it was said earlier in this thread, I can understand.
The "Windows RT" version, the cheaper one, runs on an ARM processor. There's no way that Regular Computer Applications (like Steam, Photoshop, Games) will run on it.
The "Windows 8 Pro" version is an Intel processor, that runs both ARM Applications *AND* "regular computer applications".
It's not as hard as people make it out to be.
They said multiple times that Surface RT will launch with Windows 8. Surface Pro would come a few months later.
I don't think apps will be a problem for long with Windows RT. Windows Phone got nearly 100k, and that's for a dubious platform that's still not successful 1.5 years in. Windows 8 will be successful whether app developers want to believe it will be successful or not.
App selection is still completely irrelevant to my entire point.
I was confused back when Windows 8 was announced. I don't understand how anybody that has the minor interest in this can be confused.
Sure, if you're regular Joe that can't tell the difference between iPad 2 and 3 like it was said earlier in this thread, I can understand.
The "Windows RT" version, the cheaper one, runs on an ARM processor. There's no way that Regular Computer Applications (like Steam, Photoshop, Games) will run on it.
The "Windows 8 Pro" version is an Intel processor, that runs both ARM Applications *AND* "regular computer applications".
It's not as hard as people make it out to be.