chickdigger802
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Can I finally retire my ds lite now?
It had a good run. (still got a healthy pink gba around for gba games).
It had a good run. (still got a healthy pink gba around for gba games).
Secret best feature of 3ds XL: ds games will now be 'playable' at 1:1.
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Anticitizen One
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Does that mean they won't look like shit on the screen?
UberTag
Member
That's the million dollar question right there.
It's an automatic upgrade for Pokemon Black & White 2 if that's the case.
Neuromancer
Member
It's been a while, how do DS games display on a 3DS screen?
Can't you already do this on 3DS by holding the select button while booting a game?
Not very good.
Not very good.
they'll look identical to how they did on the lite.
yeah and it's fucking tiny. on the XL, it will be the correct size due to the bigger screens.
Yeah but now the 1:1 screen mode will be normal sized.
Why would you do that?
Member
1:1 means that the screen will not be upscaled, meaning no "jank."
Hold Start or Select when booting up a DS(i) game on 3DS. Same applies to VC games actually.
Oops, forgot about the 1:1 output toggle.
Mailenstein
Member
DSi XL and 3DS XL is still the best way to go imho.
You can already do this with the 3DS though. How's this different?
AlphaTwo00
Member
Correct size, but with huge pixels. Just like the DSi XL
outunderthestars
Banned
Does this mean that the new pokemon games won't look like ass on it? I've been wanting to try a pokemon game, and an buying a 3DSXL on day one. 
goldenpp72
Member
I feel like im the only person on the planet who thinks DS games look good on a 3ds, though I only own 2d games more or less, what am I missing? I have a ds lite, XL and 3ds -_-
Some didn't liked the smaller size of the image that way. With bigger screens, they get a bigger image now.
chickdigger802
Banned
it isn't, except the screen is 90% bigger now, so you don't have to squint.
Why would you do that?
Member
It's not different. I was reminding the poster that the feature is available.
you can either play them fullscreen and kind of blurry since the 3DS has more pixels so the native DS images get stretched.
or
you can play them 1:1 pixel perfect but kinda small with black borders... (i think in this mode it might be a comparable pixel density to the GBA Micro)
now on the 3DS XL 1:1 will be bigger you'd still have the black borders but the DS game would be bigger... possibly the same size as a regular DS screen... somebody do the pixel density math.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
This is a big deal for me. 1:1 was too small on the current 3DS. It will be fine here.
The screens bigger, so how could it not be?
Unless they've taken out the DS compatibility or the 1:1 mode. (and why would they? no cost savings as far as i can tell)
The screens bigger, so how could it not be?
Unless they've taken out the DS compatibility or the 1:1 mode. (and why would they? no cost savings as far as i can tell)
Neuromancer
Member
I'm probably doing the same.
no but they never stated otherwise
DSi lack of GBA compatibility was because it needed an extra slot for different cartridges, this is not the case with the DS-3DS transition, so yeah.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Unless there was a legacy DS chip in there they'd want to yank out? But I think that would break DSiware capability, and who knows, maybe they use that hardware for other functionality. Plus those chips probably cost pennies for Nintendo now.
Some didn't liked the smaller size of the image that way. With bigger screens, they get a bigger image now.
So... the picture will fill up the screen but it won't look badly upscaled? Not sure if I understand.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
1:1 mode won't fill the screen and nothing is being upscaled.. but because the whole screen is larger, the game playing space will be physically a similar size to an original DS screen.
Aside from very few exceptions (the one or two DSi exclusive carts, Sonic Classic Collection), DS games are not region locked on any 3DS.
AlphaTwo00
Member
Nope. The entire crux of chickdigger802's argument is now that the screen is 90% larger, this native 1:1 output of DS games will look normal.
More specifically: the 3DS had a higher pixel density than the DSLite, hence DS games on 3DS using 1:1 shrank in screen size; the 3DSXL's larger screen/same pixel count means that it'd be back closer to DSLite screen size.
No.
However, if the game is DSi-enhanced (and some games didn't document this), then it also wouldn't work because of region locking.
sorijealut
Member
I can't play my Ambassador games though, right?
What about N-Club games?
What about N-Club games?
yup it would
No, you can't region lock what doesn't have region data in the first place. DSi/DSi Enhanced games are though.
All of your settings, games, and information excluding your credit card information transfers when you do a system transfer with the 3DS. That means you'll be able to play your Ambassador games.
There will still be black borders when not upscaled, just that the size of the image will be bigger.
See it this way (crappy example, but to give an idea
)...DS games on 3DS 1:1
DS games on 3DSXL 1:1
So, those that don't like the 1:1 mode on the 3DS, will get bigger image now at 1:1.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Speaking of that... isn't it weird as hell that there were DSi-exclusive games that even had different style box art? I think I only saw one of them.... there couldn't have been more than 4-5.
sorijealut
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BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
So have we done the math yet? Will the 1:1 mode on the 3DS XL be identical in size to an original DS screen? Slightly smaller? Slightly bigger? It seems close, anyway.
chickdigger802
Banned
should be comparable (too late for my brain right now). It will naturally not be as big as dsi XL.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Of course.