$599 seems ok to me. Don't forget that includes the smart cover that doubles as a keyboard. Though, I do agree that if Microsoft really wants to take on the iPad with the RT they should shoot for sub $500. $449 for all that and I'd be in day one (but that's wishful thinking). Count me in at $599.
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Easy to shoot for a price, not easy to stomach losing a bunch of money on each unit sold. I know, razor blades, etc. But if it came down to high quality and a higher price, I'd take that.
seeing the difference in software heavily favors Apple
Whut?
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OS or software?
One company actually has applications, the other doesn't.
and seeing Office load up will probably be one of the most jarring experiences of playing with the tablet.
If android is anything to go by, it'll probably be a long time before W8 on RT can touch the app store.
It needs to be though, even if that requires Microsoft to take a loss on each unit. Absolutely no one is going to pick Surface RT over iPad if they're the same price.
How is that jarring? You know that the corporate world is just foaming at the mouth for Office on a tablet, right?
If these prices end up being true it's DOA. The Windows RT model needs to be 499 and pro model 699-799 MAX for this to have a chance. I'm sorry but 999 is suicide, even for how amazing of a tablet it might end up being.
MS is going to have to take a loss at first if they want to seriously compete with Apple. No fanboy here, I really want this to do well. But there is no way in hell I spend 1000 on a tablet, even if it is a full blown PC.
yes. they will sell not one device. ever. absolutely not!
Agreed, 999 for the Windows Pro Model is way too much, I can get an ultrabook for that price, with better specs and bigger drive.
I agree that Metro apps are just starting to be developed. The Surface w/ Windows 8 Pro, however, is so much more superior than the iPad in terms of number of software for work & play.
They will sell some. Like how galaxy tab sold some. But it would be no threat at all to Apples domination of the tablet market share if it costs the same or more as an iPad.
Examples? I'm actually genuinely curious.
I don't think they are bothered about competing for volumes with Apple, they want consumers to want the Surface, and if they see it and think 'If only that was $200 cheaper' then they'll see the OEM version and realise it's doing the same thing in a less polished way and get that.
The Surface is about driving demand for Windows 8, not necessarily selling the most units.
You put a good, working version of Word on a tablet, and my entire firm would switch to Surface. So many of us have ipads, and the universal complaint is, "if this had Word, it'd be perfect." I have a feeling Surface is going to be huge in the business world.
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I fucking knew from the jump MS would most likely price themselves over the iPad. They just have to throw a wrench into everything they do. They cant help it.
Exactly. My company has been looking into iPads for our field techs. It sucks trying to find a workaround for software that we need them to be able to use. If these surface tablets do even half of what MS claims they can do, we're in.
Jarring as in, jumping to the land of the old desktop.
They are, and will most likely be getting it later this year on the a device that millions in the corporate world already have.
there are none that can match the specs, let alone beat it, at $999, not sure what he's talking about
:lol ... DOA
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999 seems like a great price for the Pro. That was my best-case scenario.
I don't really have a handle on the tablet market, is that price so horrible for the RT? Isn't it comprable to the iPad for a model with the same memory? I understand that it has a lower-res display, same as the iPad2 right?
I can see that being a hard sell but not outright awful.
I don't really have a handle on the tablet market, is that price so horrible for the RT? Isn't it comprable to the iPad for a model with the same memory? I understand that it has a lower-res display, same as the iPad2 right?
I can see that being a hard sell but not outright awful.
Here's one:
Asus Zenbook Prime - $1029.99 - Link to site
Specs:
Display 13.3" IPS FHD (1920 x 1080)
CPU Intel i5-3317 (1.7GHz)
Intel HD Graphics 4000
Memory 4G DDR3
Hard Drive 128GB SSD
EDIT: Theres an 11" 1080p model that hasn't been released yet, the UX21A, and it's likely to be cheaper than this model when it comes out.
You'd have three requirements if you were looking up something to try and prove your point. It would need to have a current gen Intel CPU (Ivy Bridge), it'd need to have a 10 in. 1080p screen, and it would need to be a conic with an SSD drive.
There certainly won't be many tablets with similar specs and features for around $1000. For example, both the IdeaPad Yoga and the latest X-series tablet will likely be more expensive. I don't know if we have prices from other PC builders.
Here's one:
Asus Zenbook Prime - $1029.99 - Link to site
Specs:
Display 13.3" IPS FHD (1920 x 1080)
CPU Intel i5-3317 (1.7GHz)
Intel HD Graphics 4000
Memory 4G DDR3
Hard Drive 128GB SSD
Have they fixed the track pad now?
MS is going to release Office for iOS.
Christ, at that price just get a MBA. Better build, better trackpad.
It seems they listened to user complaints with the previous model, will probably have to wait for reviews to be sure, but here's what they had to say:
Flash goes a very long way to make the app argument less important.... a huge number of apps necessary on ios are website replacement apps which are only needed because the full website will not work on ios.... won't be an issue with win8.
What they need to focus on is getting a good library of games..... with xbox live they could end up competing very well there too. The games shown so far look pretty good and with better multiplayer through xbox live they have a competing argument to make.
MBA doesn't have a 1080p screen.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the RT won't run anything that isn't a Metro styled app.
Also, has it been confirmed that Office is really coming to the iPad? I've seen a few rumors but nothing concrete. I think it would be pretty stupid to do that now, but hey, it's Microsoft.
its ok, it took a few years for most of Android fans to jump on the Flash is dead bandwagon with Apple fans, hopefully its faster for Windows fans
this is exactly why i just got my zenbook prime this morning. The MBA "refresh" was sub-par
HollovVpo1nt
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Exactly. Nothing more to it.
Exactly what I was thinking. Like a window into two years ago.
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Exaggeration obviously, but what compelling reason is there to get a Surface RT over an iPad if they're the same price?
Office has been rumored for iPad for months now, and NY Times confirmed it just two weeks ago. http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/05/as-google-bets-on-mobile-office-microsoft-waits/
I can see MS perhaps making Office time exclusive to RT for a few months, but it's not really going to be a huge long-term advantage.
I have a Zune Music Pass subscription for 2 years that I got for free?
It's not just flash.... its having a real desktop browser ported to the tablet and not scaling the limited phone browser up. Most websites will "just work" in IE10 making apps unnecessary for that content.
How are you liking the zenbook?
I'll have to wait and see how the versions turn out. Hopefully the iOS Word will be a fully functional version.
My point is they should learn from Zune. They have a good product, but if they want to do what you are stating"Drive demand for Windows 8", then they better do it at a price point people want.
This hardly makes sense
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/21/acer-iconia-tab-a700/
Acer Iconia A700 1920x1200 10.1 inch display , 32 gig storage and has a Tegra 3 processor.
Its price is $450 . So we are expecting ms to launch at $150 more 4 or 5 months from now ? I don't see it at all. Unless this isn't tegra 3 and is instead Wayne. With wayne and the keyboard i can see it .
As for the PRO . This is not going to ship for more than $800 at the base price with the 64gig drive and thats if it even shiped with 64 gigs as an option
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/22/falling-ssd-prices-swift-boot-up/
So I bet when this comes out early next year the only options are 128/256 . I bet the 128 gig one will come in at $800 and the 256 gig one will come in at 1k on the dot but will offer a small cpu bump that you only get with that model
its beautiful and fast. I thank Apple for making the MBA because at least the zenbook "clone" is a fantastic piece of hardware. Just got it this morning so didn't do too much on it
How do you know its not a price people would want ?
$1k for what the machine does is easy to justify in the busniess world esp if it can replace a workers laptop + tablet needs . Heck with a proper dock this can replace most users desktop also.
Think about it .
You go to work and you have a nice 24 inch monitor that connects to a dock and the dock has a keyboard and mouse on it. You simply put your Surface Pro in it and boom there is your desktop computer. You got a meeting to go to so you undock the Surface and go to the meeting and use your pen to take notes or the touch cover. Then you need to go home and you simply take your 2lbs tablet home with you and you can dock it at home. Need to go on busniess ? Boom its only a 2lbs 10 inch tablet to bring with you.
I know that would sell , alot of my friends are already interested in it for just this reason
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