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[perineumlick]

I wish I had one of the main Black man stereotypes; that we have big penises. I have a penis like a baby.

7 lbs, 19 inches.

 

[KibblesBits]

I like how you used a sensationalist headline and then tried to place structure and guidelines for discussion in the OP.

 

[Izick]

Hopefully someone can attempt to answer this with reasons/rationale soon:



edit- and I don't mean 'true' as in computer logic 'true' - which is either 0% or 100%.

Never. Everyone goes through the same shit, but we all deal with it differently and act differently, and we're all just fucking people. Even people in the same environment grow up to be completely different. Stereotypes are fucking bullshit.

 

[blame space]

your penis doesn't weigh seven pounds come on man

 

[CrushDance]

Hopefully someone can attempt to answer this with reasons/rationale soon:



edit- and I don't mean 'true' as in computer logic 'true' - which is either 0% or 100%.

Black people tend to have sickle cell anaemia. Does not mean that black people WILL have sickle cell anemia.

The prevalence of the disease in the United States is approximately 1 in 5,000, mostly affecting Americans of Sub-Saharan African descent, according to the National Institutes of Health.[6] In the United States, about 1 out of 500 African-American children born will have sickle-cell anaemia.

A specific group of black people from a specific region ancestrally, develop this condition. Now if every other group of people...

I can't discuss this "gorup", "stereotype", "race" crap. It's not good for my health.

uh, I can think of a ton, maybe because I'm not white.

White people love soft inoffensive guitar music
White people can't dance
White people can't jump
White people can't educate their children (pretty common sentiment in many Asian households, from what I gather)

I can keep going, some of these are obviously offensive

Which ones would that be? Which of those automatically bring along with them an immediate social stigma?

 

[perineumlick]

your penis doesn't weigh seven pounds come on man

Dude, don't make fun of me! Think it's easy wearing kilts all the damn time!

 

[JJDinomite]

Pussy.

I take back what I initially said. As a white person, I can confirm that not all of us like mayonnaise.

 

[John Rabbit]

No.

.

 

[Ominym]

The fuck were you thinking when you made this thread?

 

[Speevy]

I work at a retail store, so I find this to be true.

The Indians (people from India) who shop at my store like to haggle about prices and discounts.

I hope that doesn't offend anyone.

 

[ColtraineGF]

I'm pretty sure you could just link to Stuff White People Like for all your white stereotype pleasure.

(lol)

I work at a retail store, so I find this to be true.

The Indians (people from India) who shop at my store like to haggle about prices and discounts.

I hope that doesn't offend anyone.

Don't extrapolate the behavior of the people who come into your store to an entire nationality/ethnicity. Come on, now.

 

[Salsa]

jeeeeeeeeesus crap

 

[Death Dealer]

I took a communication class, and the topic of stereotypes came up in the curriculum and the professor's thesis was similar to OP's. Stereotypes exist for a reason, be aware of them, but that it's wrong to judge individuals based on a stereotype.

The one specific example I remember was the stereotype that all Jewish people are rich. Well this professor, who happened to be Jewish, cited some govt statistic and the average American Jewish household does have a much higher net worth than an average non-Jewish American household. It was almost twice as high IIRC.

 

[blame space]

I'm so sick of my dick weighing 14 pounds

 

[Izick]

I'm pretty sure you could just link to Stuff White People Like for all your white stereotype pleasure.

(lol)

So, from the banner it's sushi, dogs, standing upon rocks on the beach, and peppers.

 

[Tapiozona]

Definitely yes, but I refuse to post examples.

 

[Timedog]

Just the premise, "stereotypes exist because they tend to be true" is reductive and idiotic. I'm my own individual.

 

[FieryBalrog]

I work at a retail store, so I find this to be true.

The Indians (people from India) who shop at my store like to haggle about prices and discounts.

I hope that doesn't offend anyone.

I'm Indian and that's just a truth about how things work in India

I guess I'm supposed to say it's a stereotype (which has turned into a general empty phrase meaning "uh, you can't say that")

Which ones would that be? Which of those automatically bring along with them an immediate social stigma?

"White people can't educate their children"? You wouldn't think that's offensive?

How about "white people can't keep their families together"? That's a pretty common sentiment I find in Asian households about white people.

Obviously the whole concept of "stereotype" is complex and covers things from "offensive oversimplifications that serve no one" like these two, to "pretty obvious".

 

[Angelus Errare]

By page 5 racist-gaf will own this thread.

 

[blame space]

it's probably true though, right? like, by definition.

 

[Speevy]

Don't extrapolate the behavior of the people who come into your store to an entire nationality/ethnicity. Come on, now.

I did not.

 

[perineumlick]

 

[Log4Girlz]

Is it true that all Americans love pizza?

 

[Hoo-doo]

I think that if you did a broad-scale statistical analysis, you'd find most stereotypes to be true in some sense.

 

[sazzy]

C'mon OP. You cant just create a thread that will potentially lead to bannings or heavy criticism and not actually name some stereotypes of your own.

Its like dangling some beef jerky from an electric wire while you eat your own batch safely in the security of your own home, not sharing with anybody.

You want to create a controversial thread? Well then be controversial yourself. None of this play it safe crap. You obviously have feelings that some of these stereotypes have a fair amount of truth to them. Which ones would you say you agree with? Lets ask YOU the questions first and see if GAF agrees with them.

What I'm asking is: at what point would say a stereotype is true? Re: OP. I'm not asking anyone to state the stereotypes they believe in.

I took a communication class, and the topic of stereotypes came up in the curriculum and the professor's thesis was similar to OP's. Stereotypes exist for a reason, be aware of them, but that it's wrong to judge individuals based on a stereotype.

The one specific example I remember was the stereotype that all Jewish people are rich. Well this professor, who happened to be Jewish, cited some govt statistic and the average American Jewish household does have a much higher net worth than an average non-Jewish American household. It was almost twice as high IIRC.

Thank you, that's basically what I'm trying to say.

And to further add to the discussion, I'm asking: at what point would say a stereotype is true? a.k.a if you run across someone who believes in a racist/sexist stereotype which (from your experience) is true x% of the time, would you blame them?

Now, what is an appropriate range for x%?

 

[Cyan]

This is pretty vague. What would it even mean if they "tend to be true"?

Obviously genetic or cultural clusters will probably have some trait clusters. Does this justify stereotyping? What do we actually gain by stereotyping?

 

[Trey]

By page 5 racist-gaf will own this thread.

Wouldn't it be more closer to prejudice? I doubt many posters will cross over into “I hate all the not-mes" territory.

 

[Freezie KO]

I took a communication class, and the topic of stereotypes came up in the curriculum and the professor's thesis was similar to OP's. Stereotypes exist for a reason, be aware of them, but that it's wrong to judge individuals based on a stereotype.

The one specific example I remember was the stereotype that all Jewish people are rich. Well this professor, who happened to be Jewish, cited some govt statistic and the average American Jewish household does have a much higher net worth than an average non-Jewish American household. It was almost twice as high IIRC.

Your professor is a moron. That single example begs so many questions it could be its own game show.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

This thread makes no sense. You stated your opinion which is "Stereotypes exist because they tend to be true". Then said basically nothing, you didn't support your first statement at all. You told us some disclaimers, showed examples of stereotypes, but none of that fed into your argument. Then concluded by asking if your first statement was right.

I don't know, you didn't really say anything either way so how is anyone supposed to answer correctly?

 

[Fusebox]

Now, what is an appropriate range for x%? [/B]

1 person.

 

[Tesseract]

man, i need to try harder.

 

[The Lamp]

No.

It's amazing how people can come into a thread and post useless things like this in the first post and get all the attention.

I too, however, am too scared to actually contribute to the discussion lol.

 

[MWS Natural]

I wish I had one of the main Black man stereotypes; that we have big penises. I have a penis like a baby.

7 lbs, 19 inches.

 

[rdrr gnr]

I think the confirmation bias part makes sense. You have these stereotypes whose truth is irrelevant, but you then see that action being reinforced as you are primed to observe it, then you come to believe it to be true. Is every stereotype a complete fabrication? Absolutely not. Do I think there are stereotypes that are true? Yes. But the exceptions and nuances to those stereotypes tend to be so great, it's hard to actually do anything with them. You could to attempt to categorize a group, but it's near impossible to account for the individual. I think it's good to be aware of them, but that's probably about it.

 

[LyleLanley]

So, from the banner it's sushi, dogs, standing upon rocks on the beach, and peppers.

You know, white people things.

 

[sazzy]

This thread makes no sense. You stated your opinion which is "Stereotypes exist because they tend to be true". Then said basically nothing, you didn't support your first statement at all. You told us some disclaimers, showed examples of stereotypes, but none of that fed into your argument. Then concluded by asking if your first statement was right.

I don't know, you didn't really say anything either way so how is anyone supposed to answer correctly?

Its a parliamentary debate style topic, e.g. Global warming is real. One side agrees, the other disagrees, they both argue their case.

 

[RyougaSaotome]

Stereotypes exist because nobody talks about the cases when they're not true.

When you see a woman driving a car and it's no big deal (99% of the time), nobody is like "Wow, she can drive a car well!"

People draw on stereotypes and acknowledge them only when they actually see them 1% of the time.

According to folks here in Japan, one American stereotype is that we all eat steak all of the time. Are there cases where this is true? Sure. But that doesn't make it the majority.

So no, I sure as hell don't agree with you OP.

This thread is cray cray.

 

[XANDER CAGE]

And to further add to the discussion, I'm asking: at what point would say a stereotype is true? a.k.a if you run across someone who holds a racist/sexist stereotype which (from your experience) is true x% of the time, would you blame them?

Now, what is an appropriate range for x%?

If this is your actual question, you're literally asking us "how racist would you have to be before you agreed with a racist?" I'd always "blame" someone for holding a racist or sexist stereotype. Depending on who they were, I wouldn't, like, never speak to them again, but if a friend or whatever said something obliviously racist my reaction would certainly not be "well gosh, maybe they're right!" I don't exist to support somebody else's confirmation bias.

 

[Log4Girlz]

Sometimes stereotypes are cultural idiosyncrasies cast in a negative light.

 

[theignoramus]

I agree OP. Women should cross the street in the evening to avoid me, cause stereotypes tend to be true. Better yet, cops should stop me and ask me what I'm up to after 5 pm.

 

[Seanspeed]

What I'm asking is: at what point would say a stereotype is true? Re: OP. I'm not asking anyone to state the stereotypes they believe in.



Thank you, that's basically what I'm trying to say.

And to further add to the discussion, I'm asking: at what point would say a stereotype is true? a.k.a if you run across someone who believes in a racist/sexist stereotype which (from your experience) is true x% of the time, would you blame them?

Now, what is an appropriate range for x%?

Going by your thread title, it seems to be your own thesis. So what do YOU think? The topic may be interesting, but you know damn well that its something where you need to be walking on egg-shells when you respond, so dont let others break the ice for you. Speak up now.

 

[sazzy]

If this is your actual question, you're literally asking us "how racist would you have to be before you agreed with a racist?" I'd always "blame" someone for holding a racist or sexist stereotype. Depending on who they were, I wouldn't, like, never speak to them again, but if a friend or whatever said something obliviously racist my reaction would certainly not be "well gosh, maybe they're right!"

Going by your thread title, it seems to be your own thesis. So what do YOU think? The topic may be interesting, but you know damn well that its something where you need to be walking on egg-shells when you respond, so dont let others break the ice for you. Speak up now.

Would it be racist to believe in a negative racial stereotype which is true, for argument's sake, 90% of the time?

 

[perineumlick]

Lol. Time to go to bed. That shit is cray.

 

[ColtraineGF]

I did not.

I thought you did, based on:

I work at a retail store, so I find this to be true.

implying you agree with the OP

Stereotypes exist because they tend to be true

 

[Izick]

A black guy, a rabbi, a white guy, an Asian woman, a Hispanic man, and a deaf guy walk into a bar. They all yell "Ouch!"

 

[Seanspeed]

Would it be racist to believe in a negative racial stereotype which is true, for argument's sake, 90% of the time?

What do YOU think?

 

[XANDER CAGE]

Would it be racist to believe in a negative racial stereotype which is true 90% of the time?

Unless we lived in a fucking fantasy world, I don't think there is a stereotype you could prove to be 90% true about a group of people.

 

[Cyan]

Would it be racist to believe in a negative racial stereotype which is true, for argument's sake, 90% of the time?

You're going to need to be more specific here. Find us a negative racial stereotype that is true 90% of the time.

 

[CrushDance]

I'm Indian and that's just a truth about how things work in India

I guess I'm supposed to say it's a stereotype (which has turned into a general empty phrase meaning "uh, you can't say that")



"White people can't educate their children"? You wouldn't think that's offensive?

How about "white people can't keep their families together"? That's a pretty common sentiment I find in Asian households about white people.

Obviously the whole concept of "stereotype" is complex and covers things from "offensive oversimplifications that serve no one" like these two, to "pretty obvious".

Fiery, please don't think that I'm dancing around your point. However, those two things you just typed out about raising children and family are as you yourself put it "From Asian households". Now whether that's true or not, I can't say/ Because I've frankly never heard any of my Asian friends make such a remark. Still. Even if it is true, such a stereotype is harboured my a minority against a majority. It has no power. Similar to how there are some black people who believe 24/7 that "The white man" is out to get them. Minority stereotypes are but a mere blimp on the social radar.

You can't harbour hate against the majority of people surrounding you and get away with it. People keep bringing up stereotypes that they know fully well don't mean anything as if this is somehow true of every group of people.

 

[rdrr gnr]

Your professor is a moron. That single example begs so many questions it could be its own game show.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say his professor's lecture was probably a bit more nuanced, but I think the numbers are probably right. iirc (too lazy to google) Asian/Asian-Indian, Jewish (and some others I'm forgetting) households tend to do better financially than other minorities. Same goes for education and academia. For a single group, I think a significant amount of Nobel Prize Winners (in physics only?) have been Jewish. Asian/Asian-Indian children make up a significant amount of university attendance/graduation despite being a very small percentage of the population. These aren't "stereotypes" per se, but as a generalized statistic that is describing a group of people it isn't moronic. Note: My numbers/recollection could be absolutely wrong.