I didn't realize the Citadel and the Relays were synthetic beings
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I didn't realize the Citadel and the Relays were synthetic beings
EarsOfASnake
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Stopped reading after encountering a spoiler... So here is my question:
Is the game now fully enjoyable from beginning to end? Liked 1, loved 2 so I was pretty bummed out when all this talk arose about ME3 destroying everything storywise.
Is it safe to buy now?
If you don't know the original ending and are avoiding the current hyperbolic storm we are in then you are good to go. The game has its flaws but the biggest of which were the lack of an ending, that has been fixed now and if you are oblivious to the previous issues then you will enjoy it.
Stopped reading after encountering a spoiler... So here is my question:
Is the game now fully enjoyable from beginning to end? Liked 1, loved 2 so I was pretty bummed out when all this talk arose about ME3 destroying everything storywise.
Is it safe to buy now?
The game has always been fantastic. The ending was not what people wanted (and it was a little underwhelming) but it became this big horrible thing that made people retroactively not like it and scared off others from playing it.
If you want to buy it, just buy it. You will have 30+ hours of enjoyment from it, I promise.
They were reaper technology.
utsavinheaven
Member
But the destroy option destroys synthetic beings, not ...buildings... or whatever those can be called
The SpartanLion
Neo Member
For who played the game at 100%, for who made every correct decision in previous game and saved anyone, Destroy ending id definitely an amazing ending. Really, one of the best videogames enging i've ever beheld. Thanks you, bioware.
Galactic Fork
A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
Should have made your Shepard's first name Commander. Then you're good.
Except Bioware added the Geth and Edi in there for no reason. acceptable losses though.
The reapery voice at the end of the refusal ending was quite amusing. "SO BE IIIIIT! I'M TAKING MY BALL AND GOING HOME!!!"
utsavinheaven
Member
that's a 5$ DLC.
If you choose that ending it says that your children will create synthetics will be rebuilt and the fighting will continue between the two.
i laughed at his face when he was all "oh fuck, i can think and shit?"
at least i could shoot the space kid now
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
Was always afraid they'd promote his rank after saving the Universe. Oh well.
Rendering that scene with every possible combination of letters would at least explain how they managed to use up 1.9 GB.
bigdaddygamebot
Member
"lazy"
"rushed"
That's the over-arching theme for Mass Effect 3. Why wouldn't they continue it in their improved endings?
You do realize that would involve them taking time to completely redesign an asset that they already made right? That's not how Bioware rolls these days.
I found it particularly poignant that the name that would go on the plaque was "Commander Shepard"
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
But it still begs the question... why the fuck weren't these "new" ending in there in the first place?
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oh so now we fucking get a "refusal" ending
FUCK YOU BIOWARE
SpacePirate Ridley
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So by reading the comments fuck this shit still, bioware.
This is what im going to do, think in my head that Xenoblade's ending is the Mass Effect one because (obviously XENOBLADE ENDING SPOILERS)
Yeah, fuck no.
This is what im going to do, think in my head that Xenoblade's ending is the Mass Effect one because (obviously XENOBLADE ENDING SPOILERS)
is the refusal ending but done right. Change the name of Shulk for Shepard, the bionis god Zanza and the telethias for the reapers and husks, geth for makhina and the star child for a good "CPU" Alvis.
There you are, they dont even let you choose and ending, and I feel is more what I wanted to choose.
They even explain the plotholes and is not a perfect and cuddily ending because basically nearly all the high enthia die.
There you are, they dont even let you choose and ending, and I feel is more what I wanted to choose.
They even explain the plotholes and is not a perfect and cuddily ending because basically nearly all the high enthia die.
Yeah, fuck no.
I was stupid enough to think they had learned their lesson
Eh for me the endings have improved to "new Bioware level" bad, before they were like "worst endings of all time" bad. Still they tried to explain everything in the most lazy way possible. The new options in the last conversation are the best part of this EC, everything about the Normandy feels shoehorned and the way they changed the stranded on a planet part makes no sense
I always wanted the ending slides but they're really cheap in the end, I wanted something similar to New Vegas with a lot of consequences of the major decisions in the games explained by characters, not 4 random artworks with krogan babies.
at least they could have shown an Alliance fleet arriving on the planet to save them or something, instead they simply depart 2 minutes later
Man. Just imagine how huge PTSD they'll have.
Also, control ending is the best one since they made this canon
synthesis shouldn't exist....
only needed: control/destroy/reject(and all varied depending in your ems and decisions.)
reject and destroy with low ems would be the bad endings(like the reject we have now and destroy with earth annihilated)
high ems reject you win if you have the most ems(hardest) you reject the options presented to you and by force you carve your future...
control mostly as is.
and that's all............
only needed: control/destroy/reject(and all varied depending in your ems and decisions.)
reject and destroy with low ems would be the bad endings(like the reject we have now and destroy with earth annihilated)
high ems reject you win if you have the most ems(hardest) you reject the options presented to you and by force you carve your future...
control mostly as is.
and that's all............
The SpartanLion
Neo Member
Mostly the same? Or we played a different EC, or you played the game and the series badly, saving few members, low war asset and low galactic readiness.
bigdaddygamebot
Member
xD
Thanks SpartanLion.
Fans like you are part of the reason why developers like Bioware feel like respecting their customers isn't necessary.
This "better" ending is only considered better because the original endings were so spectacularly poor.
One of the best videogame endings you've ever beheld.
Christ...I hope this is a troll post.
I like that idea. or better yet shepard strangles the space kid, then takes the crucible space magic for himself and becomes a space god and flys around space destroying all the reapers with his laser eyes
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
"In order to protect you, we have to destroy you" is an incredibly stupid concept. What they COULD have done, and it wouldn't have required much work, is the following:
The reapers are created as a test. Far more dangerous things exist outside the galaxy, and according to the calculations made by the reapers' creators, sentient beings would reach the edge of the galaxy, and possess technology to leave the galaxy at a certain point. The reapers are created as a test to manipulate these races into working together (a la Watchmen), forcing them to become one people before leaving the galaxy.
It's not particularly great, but at least it makes some kind of sense compared to "we want you to live in harmony, so we killed you to protect you"
soulassssns
Banned
Anybody have youtube video posted of all the socalled updated ending?
July 4th for Yurop and Australian peasants. May as well head over to Youtube and see all the endings now if I were you.
A few pages ago:
bigdaddygamebot
Member
reapers are synthetic-organic
reapers kill all synthetics and organics
it's not really living in harmony so much as it is stopping them before the synthetic vs organic conflict becomes too big. star child doesn't give a fuck about either beings, only fulfilling his purpose within the galaxy. he even says that he turned his creators into the first reaper against their will
I'm in the refusal camp.
As brief and flippant as it is, It feels like the perfect FU to the star child.
There is no space magic afterwards, Shepard, just like the player, is like "yeah, this is bullshit" and says I should finish this on my terms or not at all.
turns out, not at all... and then Bioware destroys it's own universe. Almost leads to a reboot. Space Exploration as a fresh new experience after Liara's message drives people to the stars.
still, shitty all around.
As brief and flippant as it is, It feels like the perfect FU to the star child.
There is no space magic afterwards, Shepard, just like the player, is like "yeah, this is bullshit" and says I should finish this on my terms or not at all.
turns out, not at all... and then Bioware destroys it's own universe. Almost leads to a reboot. Space Exploration as a fresh new experience after Liara's message drives people to the stars.
still, shitty all around.
Rebel Leader
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just put extended cut into youtube
such as:Mass Effect 3 Synthesis Ending Extended
Missed opportunity to include a still of a touching scene where the husk is reunited with his wife and kids on a sunny day. Maybe with the husk wearing a shirt and tie.
Or to have the Stargazer's kid reply with "10010100111001010100001111111001101!"
Or on Control to have Harby the friendly Reaper fixing up the Mass Rel... oh.
To that end, I still think the dark matter business would have worked better. I am replaying Mass Effect 2, and it is obvious that the series was building up to this whole problem of scary dark matter (Tali's recruitment mission and the sun expiring, etc).
Oh well. I think these endings are an improvement, though I didn't let the original endings get me down anyway.
ElectricBlue187
Member
yeah its still lazy but i think its better than what they had before. Its obvious they did not intend for the ending to be dark (WE CAN REBUILD TEH CITADEL/RELAYS LULZ) and now all three endings are "good" endings in the sense that the galaxy is better off than it was before ME1. I personally like the control ending the best, I always picked the "merge with Helios" ending in Deus Ex, the idea of a benevolent dictator AI is appealing to me
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
I've got a save inside the crucible. Can I not experience these new poopy endings with this save?
I also chose merging with Helios, but that was because merging actually enlightened EVERYONE. It wasn't just controlling. It was opening up and connecting the minds of all humans on earth. It was a technological version of buddhist enlightenment.
I also chose merging with Helios, but that was because merging actually enlightened EVERYONE. It wasn't just controlling. It was opening up and connecting the minds of all humans on earth. It was a technological version of buddhist enlightenment.
during the game you learn that the normandy has it's engine safe guards turned off so it can be pushed as far as the pilot wants. im guessing joker pushed it too hard and fried the engines.
as for the kid it's really the only thing about the endings that bug me. i understand they needed a form for the AI to take when interacting with it but they should have used something unique or even used one of the characters you let die through out the series. then simply toss in the contact(movie) line where the alien ai says it's chosen this form so it's easier for you to comprehend.
as for the kid it's really the only thing about the endings that bug me. i understand they needed a form for the AI to take when interacting with it but they should have used something unique or even used one of the characters you let die through out the series. then simply toss in the contact(movie) line where the alien ai says it's chosen this form so it's easier for you to comprehend.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
So, where does the series go from here? FFX-2 style addon, reboot or new series with new everything?
Because we know they're not going to just abandon the Mass Effect universe.
Because we know they're not going to just abandon the Mass Effect universe.
The SpartanLion
Neo Member
They landed beacuse of mass relay's beam, even if they are still up. They maybe landed on a planet in order to repair the engine and then leave. My own and stupid suppostion: Probably the planet is on Alpha Centuari system (binary stellar system, and the planet seems to have two star), relatively close to solar system.
bigdaddygamebot
Member
The refusal ending is the only one that I find acceptable.
It's a shame that after playing three games in a series, and playing the first one and the second one multiple times, the only ending I can accept is one that completely destroys everything my character was fighting for and invested in and essentially reboots the franchise.
Maybe I'll get lucky and Obsidian or CD Projekt will get their hands on the Mass Effect IP?
...I won't hold my breath.
It's a shame that after playing three games in a series, and playing the first one and the second one multiple times, the only ending I can accept is one that completely destroys everything my character was fighting for and invested in and essentially reboots the franchise.
Maybe I'll get lucky and Obsidian or CD Projekt will get their hands on the Mass Effect IP?
...I won't hold my breath.
Photolysis
Banned
That seems to be a succinct way of putting things.
I picked the same originally and just watched that. It's better in several ways, for example, now it has some basic expository shit that takes into account, you know, the rest of the fucking galaxy you took your sweet time saving. The thing you mentioned, and the explanation to Joker leaving is awfully convenient, I was actually laughing when I heard Hackett's voice. It was part of the plan all along? You don't say!
This was in line of what I was expecting. Not a change, just a here's a bit more so that the story doesn't look like the writers had no fucking idea what just happened and why anymore. All of the scenes were a fucking common sense reward-type of scene to the players that should've been there in the first place, in fact, I'm sure they just read one of the million comments on how to improve (not fix) the endings and said, yeah, we can animate that thing for sure, why didn't we in the first place?
On to the other ones...
No, my play style was OCD all the way through.
If the galactic readiness bar meant anything, the forces I threw at the Reapers in the third game should have wiped the floor with'em.
But it fucking did not. Everything gets thrown out the god damn window after you enter that beam of light. Which is moronic in its own right.
You know what? Fuck it. They made a pointless update to an already half-assed product. I'm done with this topic.
The SpartanLion
Neo Member
The troll is YOU, who complains of everything, blinded by hate. If Valve of CD Project's had a similiar ending for their gaming, everyone celebrating them as genius. Note: i am no Bioware fanboy, instead i swear on them on how they ruined ME RPG component.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
I have no idea what this new content adds, so a straight answer would be nice (I have no idea if you're being cheeky or serious)
CaptainSchwann
Member
I swear Shepard's monologue at the end of the Control ending sounds like something straight out of TIM's mouth.