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Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut is coming next week [Up: Out now, my sweet]

I really don't see how anybody can really say they are "worse" than before.

At least there was a (not terribly plausible) arguement before that they were trying to go for some kind of meaning, or that the IT was true and it was all the setup to some very grand twist.

That hope is gone now, so it seems reasonable that some people consider things to be even worse, even if they were being a bit wishful thinking about it.
 
-I also hear if you complete it on a Legendary file, there's a new short added scene as well.

That's about all I noticed. Also I actually like the ending. I do think not everyone will though since it's exactly what they market it as, extended and with more detail and additions, rather than an all new ending together (though they do add in a new ending or two).

What is "legendary file"?

Also, while this DLC is not completely satisfying at least it'll finally allow me to move on from this game once and for all. I've been kind of stuck in a limbo due to how unsatisfying the original endings were but now there's some kind of finality in all of this. I've even lost interest in the MP so things seem to be wrapping up the way they should have been a few months ago.

Destroy > Reject > Control >>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking a dump >>>>>>>>>>> Synthesis
 
Destroy ending satisfied me enough. It wasn't amazing, but it wasn't bad either. It gave good closure, retconned some stupid things and plugged up some plot holes. Considering that they just extended the ending and didn't completely redo it, they managed to salvage it at least.

I've yet to watch that one; I think there will be some folks satisfied with it, but for a lot of people it will seem worse.
 
They were ambiguous before at least. All the new stuff felt totally forced and patronising, fleshing out awful ideas only makes it clearer how bad they are.

All this tells me is that you were going to dislike what they did no matter what, so let me rephrase. I don't see how anybody could come into this with an open mind and say it was "worse" than what they had before. You can still dislike it, but it's pure hyperbole to say it's now "worse" because they explained things, gave more options and showed more of what was going on.

Here's hoping for free-2-play horde based MP.

That's not even funny.
 
r00d. Have some new synthesis ending and marvel at the horror.

You are probably Yurop peasant. That's why you can't see the DLC yet...until 4th of July. AHAHAHAHAHA!

Newp. I'm in the US. I just have no idea how to get to the content (and it sounds like someone else is having the same issue)

Anyone else playing on PC?
 
So because Bioware has fallen out of favor on gaf. That gives everyone license to spoil the shit out of the dlc. Damn there is a spoiler thread why arent those convos there?
 
Control ending weird but interesting. There is no bad consequence but Shepard's physical death. Reapers helping rebuilding mass relays and living on their own planet? O_O
 
So because Bioware has fallen out of favor on gaf. That gives everyone license to spoil the shit out of the dlc. Damn there is a spoiler thread why arent those convos there?

You mean people are talking about the ending in a thread about the ending? You don't say.
 
For me this series is dead.
After the probable failure o SWTOR i can see EA shutting down the studio in:

5
4
3
2
1
...

(probably the will develop a next gen title and if it will be a failure it will happen)
 
wtf was the point of
crash landing if they were just going to fly back off again
?

Rather than remove that footage and prove the fans right that it was shit, Bioware decided to make new footage showing it being undone. Footage of citadel & relays being destroyed -> make footage of them being rebuilt. Footage of Normandy crashing on jungle world -> make footage of Normandy taking back off.
 
Oh cool, you can apparently get the Reject ending by shooting the star child.

The Normandi was heavily damaged. They crash landed and fixed the ship. How is that hard to understand?

It's a completely pointless scene now. Before they were stranded there (or so it seemed) so there was a reason. Now they just fly off. Why not just have them stay in space for a bit? Have them repair the engines while up in space or something. The planet is now (at least in the endings I've seen) is completely pointless.
 
I liked the synthesis ending. It sounds like the hook of an interesting sci-fi story. I think it's about the same as the original version though, and they never explain why Shep has to jump in versus say cutting off a finger and tossing that in.

any idea what this shows?

I'd like to know as well.
 
Control ending weird but interesting. There is no bad consequence but Shepard's physical death. Reapers helping rebuilding mass relays and living on their own planet? O_O

It's the Avatar ending. He's not dead. He's just ascending into a higher being.

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Each ending is now worse than it was before, tacking some digital paintings on the end with a voice over changes nothing. RGB now with added gold option. Choices meant dick, nothing of any real importance was expanded on, space kid still sucks. If anything I felt like I was being patronised by the voice overs (especially on the destroy ending). Good luck to you Bioware in all your future MP lucky dip scams, you have lost a loyal customer.

They're certainly not worse from before. Before was a complete fucking insult to the people that bought the game.

Now...they're actual endings and they are relatively different from one another. They're still incredibly poor...and lazy...and rushed...but they're not worse than the original ending.

It's fine that they patched their game. Hurray for them.

It only serves to irritate me further regarding how someone saw the original endings...thought that they were fine and they decided to ship the game as it was.
 
To me if feels like Destroy is still the only real somewhat ending with
Shepard breathing
as that is not in the others including the reject. What a weird set of plot devices.
 
The extended Control and Synthesize endings really make it look to me like they might actually be going for Indoctrination Theory to be actualized in any potential sequel. It just looks so silly to have giant Reapers stomping around helping out the races rebuild, or 'Shepard' talk like he's some sort of demigod now. Synthesize is still silly for obvious reasons but the extended ending just makes it look even more silly.
 
All this tells me is that you were going to dislike what they did no matter what, so let me rephrase. I don't see how anybody could come into this with an open mind and say it was "worse" than what they had before. You can still dislike it, but it's pure hyperbole to say it's now "worse" because they explained things, gave more options and showed more of what was going on.

It's not hyperbole, I think it's worse. Expanded stuff was the cheapest, laziest shit they could muster. I may not have had an open mind going in (which based on past experience I would say is understandable), but if Bioware actually improved anything I would say so and be happy about it.
 
I'll admit this, guys: I was kind of pleased by the new things they added. While the endings are still not good, at least what happens to everyone in the galaxy is explained. Instead of shit just exploding and that's it.

I enjoyed seeing how everyone teamed up, learning from their mistakes and rebuilding the galaxy.

Reaper Shepard was badass.

Needs more gigawatts though because everything still felt cheap and rushed.

Edit: Is there a Renegade Control ending video on Youtube? It's different from Paragon Control.
 
They're certainly not worse from before. Before was a complete fucking insult to the people that bought the game.

Now...they're actual endings and they are relatively different from one another. They're still incredibly poor...and lazy...and rushed...but they're not worse than the original ending.

It's fine that they patched their game. Hurray for them.

It only serves to irritate me further regarding how someone saw the original endings...thought that they were fine and they decided to ship the game as it was.

The original endings were the worst endings of any game I personally played since the days of "The End" only style endings of the NES-era. They just wholly and utterly shit on the fans, the people who worked on the game that weren't the 2 people who sequestered themselves and crapped them out and everybody involved with the lore and building of the game into a multi-million copy selling series. We all argued over ME1 vs ME2, but the series was pretty much beloved. The endings pissed off an overwhelming majority of fans.

These endings are better - if only for the single fact that instead of destroying every single thing in the galaxy no matter what you do, there is some variance in what happens in "your" game.
 
All this tells me is that you were going to dislike what they did no matter what, so let me rephrase. I don't see how anybody could come into this with an open mind and say it was "worse" than what they had before. You can still dislike it, but it's pure hyperbole to say it's now "worse" because they explained things, gave more options and showed more of what was going on.



That's not even funny.

No it's not hyperbole, because you could assume certain things from all the ambiguity, now all the stupid shit choices the writers made are show to light how they're such bad ideas
 
So, ending is even worse and they ruined Garrus? Hahahaha. Oh wow. Bioware...
 
Is the new DLC tailored according to the choices you have made? I.E. would I be doing myself a disservice if I watched the endings on youtube, when my own ending could be totally different based on my choices in the trilogy?

It's terrible to say so, but I really hope you guys say, "NO, your choices don't mean shit, just watch it on youtube." I don't feel like going through the Cerberus base or Earth again.
 
Indeed i wrote PHYSICAL death. He's not spirtually dead :)

at least in synthesis everyone gets a bit of command shepard inside them


Is the new DLC tailored according to the choices you have made? I.E. would I be doing myself a disservice if I watched the endings on youtube, when my own ending could be totally different based on my choices in the trilogy?

It's terrible to say so, but I really hope you guys say, "NO, your choices don't mean shit, just watch it on youtube." I don't feel like going through the Cerberus base or Earth again.

NO, your choices don't mean shit, just watch it on youtube
 
Putting Refuse in as the "everyone dies no matter what" ending feels like a huge middle finger to everyone who wanted it.

"Fine, you don't like the choices we gave you? Well guess what, the entire universe is dead. You lose. Fuck you."
 
The Normandi was heavily damaged. They crash landed and fixed the ship. How is that hard to understand?

As it stood originally it was framed as though they were on a new planet non of them had ever seen, this was the one thing I liked, it forced an important part of the universe to carry on in a different way.
It hinted at these people having to grow to live with the changes you have brought, now it's nothing, just another stop on the amazing voyage on the good ship big whoop.



Putting Refuse in as the "everyone dies no matter what" ending feels like a huge middle finger to everyone who wanted it.

"Fine, you don't like the choices we gave you? Well guess what, the entire universe is dead. You lose. Fuck you."


With full battle points there should be a costly victory, not having that stinks of BW sourness.
 
Putting Refuse in as the "everyone dies no matter what" ending feels like a huge middle finger to everyone who wanted it.

"Fine, you don't like the choices we gave you? Well guess what, the entire universe is dead. You lose. Fuck you."

Passive agressive as always.
 
I'll give credit where credit is due: the extended cut is significantly better than the original and does address a good deal of the criticism people had (albeit through retconning in some instances).

With that said however, I think this comment on the destroy ending sums things up nicely:

Youtube guy said:
What I was promised in the first place. I wanted my choices to matter. I knew that this DLC wouldn't do that, but that doesn't suddenly make anything better. These endings are all still terrible. Are they better? Yeah. But that's mostly because it's hard to get worse.

Bioware still failed to understand the main complaint that people had with the endings in generally, that their choices didn't matter.
The montage of the races rebuilding was nice, but felt more like a general addendum rather than a "this is what your choices did".

Overall, these endings were much more satisfying, but much of that comes from how down right terrible the original endings were. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind now that the game was rushed out the door because there is no reason other than time that the EC was not in the original release (I guess time and Walters/Hudson's feigned brilliance). I do appreciate Bioware taking the time and releasing the EC for free, but they still managed to drop the ball in such a spectacular manner that is will be incredibly hard to get excited about any future projects.
 
Putting Refuse in as the "everyone dies no matter what" ending feels like a huge middle finger to everyone who wanted it.

"Fine, you don't like the choices we gave you? Well guess what, the entire universe is dead. You lose. Fuck you."

What was suppsoed to have happened? You refused so the Reapers were never destroyed or stopped.
 
The Normandi was heavily damaged. They crash landed and fixed the ship. How is that hard to understand?
It's a perception thing.

In general, the last thing one sees a character doing is what you'll think they keep on doing. So, Normandy crashing on a planet and the crew stepping out? Yeah, last thing we see if them looking at the sky with the Normandy definitely not looking space-worthy. So, we extrapolate subconsciously that they've stranded, as we never see them doing anything else. It's the final shot, even. Now, logically, it's good practice to survey the area, set up camp, and see if the local flora and fauna is edible or hostile before settling in to do emergency repairs to the spaceship. Which is what you see them begin to do.

It's why the end where the hero rides into the sunset works so well. You know he's off to more adventures, and he'll keep doing that until you see him again. So, yeah, logically, it's not a problem, especially if Tali is there. But people aren't very logical.

How long until it gets on Origin, by the way? I got a legend save and a female Shepard parked and ready to go to end both my ME1 to ME3 games. Thinking Synthesis and Destroy respectively.
 
As it stood originally it was framed as though they were on a new planet non of them had ever seen, this was the one thing I liked, it forced an important part of the universe to carry on in a different way.
It hinted at these people having to grow to live with the changes you have brought, now it's nothing, just another stop on the amazing voyage on the good ship big whoop.

It's a perception thing.

In general, the last thing one sees a character doing is what you'll think they keep on doing. So, Normandy crashing on a planet and the crew stepping out? Yeah, last thing we see if them looking at the sky with the Normandy definitely not looking space-worthy. So, we extrapolate subconsciously that they've stranded, as we never see them doing anything else. It's the final shot, even. Now, logically, it's good practice to survey the area, set up camp, and see if the local flora and fauna is edible or hostile before settling in to do emergency repairs to the spaceship. Which is what you see them begin to do.

It's why the end where the hero rides into the sunset works so well. You know he's off to more adventures, and he'll keep doing that until you see him again. So, yeah, logically, it's not a problem, especially if Tali is there. But people aren't very logical.

How long until it gets on Origin, by the way? I got a legend save and a female Shepard parked and ready to go to end both my ME1 to ME3 games. Thinking Synthesis and Destroy respectively.

I see why people would be confused now. That makes sense.


They actually made Syntheses and Control practically the same exact ending this time around. The only difference is the monologue and that in Synthesis every one has glowing green eyes.

Bioware am champion.


All 3 are the same. All the races become friendly and they rebuild the galaxy.


Free will LOL.


Yeah I don't think people should complain at how Refuse played out. They kept their free will but in the end they had no chance to defeat the Reapers.

Do people want the Reapers to go "Oh you had the balls to say no to the Catalyst? Ok we'll let you go"
 
One thing i regret from EC, is that you are forced to kill TIM or letting him commit suicide. I loved him as character. If you then choose Control, what's the point on get rid of him?
 
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