Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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Sharp tits.

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I said she was gorgeous in every other respect.

I wasn't discount her attractiveness as a woman, I was stating a thought about one particular part of her body.

Fine, we'll use penis enlargement.

No different than if a woman said 'I really love this guy's body, but his dick wasn't too big'. Doesn't mean that's going to disqualify the guy outright, just that one part didn't rock her world.


Except no one in here is saying that. You're saying a woman needs surgery.
 
Except no one in here is saying that. You're saying a woman needs surgery.

I never said she NEEDED surgery. Few people NEED breast implants.

I said the appearance of her tits would benefit in my eyes from it.

You're putting more force and weight into the statement than there ever was.



And how does the dick comparison even make sense?

Ask the person who asked me to use it.

The point is, a person can think a person is physically gorgeous overall, but not be thrilled with a particular part. This does not mean that person is going to disqualify that person from their potential dating pool.

And my original point was that people augment their appearance all the time. For whatever reasons (some brought up here in this thread), many still think that breast augmentation isn't appealing. I'm not one of those.

If you want to get the thread back on track after being 'derailed', go for it. I'm heading out.
 
I never said she NEEDED surgery. Few people NEED breast implants.

I said the appearance of her tits would benefit in my eyes from it.

You're putting more force and weight into the statement than there ever was.





Ask the person who asked me to use it.

The point is, a person can think a person is physically gorgeous overall, but not be thrilled with a particular part. This does not mean that person is going to disqualify that person from their potential dating pool.

Sounds like you can afford to be picky. What are you doing in this thread exactly?
 
Sounds like you can afford to be picky. What are you doing in this thread exactly?

I didn't know the dating-age thread was only for people with PROBLEMS dating. I thought it was for dating discussion and gender relations discussion in general.

Perhaps a more accurately titled thread would have helped?
 
I didn't know the dating-age thread was only for people with PROBLEMS dating. I thought it was for dating discussion and gender relations discussion in general.

Perhaps a more accurately titled thread would have helped?

Perhaps. Or maybe the thread is about helping and encouraging others, not how some woman failed to live up to your shallow expectations about her tits.
 
Thread just went to hell, jeez.

Soultron would be sad.

Last post before I head out the door:

Stop bitching and bring up a new topic in this thread.

This goes for everybody posting anything along the lines of 'waaaaah derailed thread'.

Nobody is stopping you from talking about something that draws peoples attention and interest.

Gnight. :)
 
Perhaps. Or maybe the thread is about helping and encouraging others, not how some woman failed to live up to your shallow expectations about her tits.

That really is the best way to say it.

Especially considering how in the last few weeks people were actually discussing plastic surgery for themselves along with making all sorts of excuses for their issues instead of facing them head on. If you combine that with this kind of projection its just... not healthy.
Last post before I head out the door:

Stop bitching and bring up a new topic in this thread.

This goes for everybody posting anything along the lines of 'waaaaah derailed thread'.

Nobody is stopping you from talking about something that draws peoples attention and interest.

Gnight. :)

Stop bitching

not douchey at all
 
The vast majority of orthodontistry is not done with medical reasons in mind. I had braces. The look you deem 'normal' is one that has only been deemed such in the last 100 years thanks to medical/dentistry advances.

You don't need straight teeth for your teeth to work. We prefer straight teeth because they fall in line with an ideal.

As for braces vs plastic surgery, they are both altering the body for the sake of vanity, in accordance with society's image of ideal beauty.

You have no idea what you're talking about, please stop. Braces can cure migraines/headaches in some people (due to teeth movement). Straight teeth can also help prevent problems with chewing, lisps, teeth grinding, and fractures due to uneven bites. And of course, braces can make teeth significantly better looking whether you like it or not; if you want to argue a jacked up mouth full of crowded teeth is perfectly fine, more power to you.

Having had braces in the past doesn't make you an expert on anything.
 
Need some advice.

Met a women at an art show today today who was showing some of her work--not only was I impressed by her paintings, but also her looks (gorgeous) and demeanor.i chatted her up for bit about her work, etc...Inquired about where I could see more of her stuff online, yadda yadda... Was very close to asking if she wanted to grab some coffee or something and chat some more when her mom showed up and kinda put a damper on that idea.

So anyways, this lady seems awesome and really charmed the hell out of me. Only contact info I have is her email--any ideas on what I should do? I know asking her out through email is a terrible idea.
 
Need some advice.

Met a women at an art show today today who was showing some of her work--not only was I impressed by her paintings, but also her looks (gorgeous) and demeanor.i chatted her up for bit about her work, etc...Inquired about where I could see more of her stuff online, yadda yadda... Was very close to asking if she wanted to grab some coffee or something and chat some more when her mom showed up and kinda put a damper on that idea.

So anyways, this lady seems awesome and really charmed the hell out of me. Only contact info I have is her email--any ideas on what I should do? I know asking her out through email is a terrible idea.

Any idea of when she's showing again?
 
Yeah she has her schedule on her site.

I feel really creepy for obsessing over her like this, but dammit, there was something about this girl that I can't get out of my head.

It's not creepy unless you're creeping. You're not stalking her or anything - it's fine to be smitten.
 
50% - Partially giving suggestions, partially asking.

Besides, where I live sucks for meeting people. There's no one around. And I still can't drive.

Oooo. Work on that one, buddy. Unless you live in an area that it really isn't practical to own a car/drive around.

I'm not going to say something like "a girl won't go out with you if you can't drive", but being able to drive will probably help you on dates.

Oh, and places to talk to women: anywhere there are women.

See someone you might like to talk to, strike up a conversation. Can literally happen anywhere.
 
Instead of trying to talk to women (or men) you're interested in, try talking to anybody, regardless of the level of interest. That's what I'm doing, in an attempt to become more comfortable with people. I was talking to some girls at a movie theatre the other day and my buddy showed up and said he thought I knew them. It made me feel pretty good about my progress.
 
Let's do this - places to talk to women:

- Parties (not on the dance floor)

...
Hmm, is "day game" a good idea, GAF?

College
Malls
Parties
Libraries
Museums
Parks
Social circle (your friends friends)
Movie Theaters (eh)
As Etrian Oddity said Grocery stores
Train stations even

So yeah you can literally meet girls anywhere, those are just some suggestions to get you going. And day game is awesome dude.


Instead of trying to talk to women (or men) you're interested in, try talking to anybody, regardless of the level of interest. That's what I'm doing, in an attempt to become more comfortable with people. I was talking to some girls at a movie theatre the other day and my buddy showed up and said he thought I knew them. It made me feel pretty good about my progress.

This is also very helpful in the beginning.
 
Getting fake applications to your body just reflects the kind of personality you have.

Not being satisfied is one thing, trying to change yourself is one thing, being vain I feel is another.

Don't get fake tits or botox or whatever because you want to be someone you aren't. Be yourself. Small tits are just as fine as big tits, dicks, etc I don't care.

Be yourself and someone will love you, maybe not the one you want, but the person you deserve.
 
K guys, I've been in this thread before, after my last relationship broke up, needing solace. It's now been 3 months since and I am already f*cking tired of being single.

Went out a couple nights ago with some friends to a club for a leaving night (not a venue I would usually attend I admit, I'm not a fan of clubbing). Was trying to at least get the attention of some ladies but it just wasn't happening =/

I need some help and advice gaf. I've not had many relationships and the last one really cut me up when it ended, but I feel like I have really got no technique, confidence or experience in picking up women, my last one felt like a total fluke; I was stupidly drunk and so was she.

Some of my friends even have said that I am quite a good looking guy but I don't feel it nor do I feel I am using this to my advantage. So yeah, any hints/tips to make myself more noticeable to the opposite gender?

PS: I also admit I have gotten some of the books by Neil Strauss I am ashamed to admit but I'll be honest I'm not sure that is what I am aiming for here; I don't want to be a PUA or whatever. I just want a steady relationship again. Was thinking of reading "flirting for dummies" that's how bad I feel right now =/ Are books a good idea gaf?
 
Need some advice.

Met a women at an art show today today who was showing some of her work--not only was I impressed by her paintings, but also her looks (gorgeous) and demeanor.i chatted her up for bit about her work, etc...Inquired about where I could see more of her stuff online, yadda yadda... Was very close to asking if she wanted to grab some coffee or something and chat some more when her mom showed up and kinda put a damper on that idea.

So anyways, this lady seems awesome and really charmed the hell out of me. Only contact info I have is her email--any ideas on what I should do? I know asking her out through email is a terrible idea.

If that's the only method of contacting her again, then simply email her and ask for a meet up. Is it the best route? Probably not. But it's better than creeping around and anticipating seeing her again.

Edit: Oh, read the rest of the posts, it sounds like you know when she'll appear again. Also, you're thinking way too highly of her when you just met her.


50% - Partially giving suggestions, partially asking.

Besides, where I live sucks for meeting people. There's no one around. And I still can't drive.

Learn to drive unless you live in a metropolitan or the public transit is amazing.
 
Well I'm going on a date with someone from OKC in a few hours. Thing is she just recently updated her profile with some stuff that kinda turns me off, so I'm almost not looking forward to it now.

Oh well, I'll try to make the best of it and give it a fair chance. How do you handle leaving a date? I've never exactly been on a date that's so... overtly a date before.
 
Again, not about size.

Firmness and perkiness.

And it didn't make me lose interest. I'm still going to call her. I just walk away thinking 'oh god, one operation away from perfection'.

Again, same thing for crooked teeth.

I'm sorry, but this is a really unhealthy attitude. The risks associated with breast implants and surgery in general are fairly high (including the implants rupturing, toxic shock syndrome, damage to nerves and tissue, being unable to breast feed, more risks assosiated with taking them out - they don't last forever and once they get removed the breasts look awful). For you to so casually say that the only way this woman (one with 34Cs!) can obtain perfection is for her to bow down to your needs and get risky surgery done really irks me. You wanna know why it shouldn't be socially common place? its risky surgeries (they require several, and have to be removed eventually), it feels fake, looks awful once removed, and is often done to please the guy who thought it'd be cool to casually mention that breast implants = perfection. I have nothing against implants, but damn dude.
 
I'm sorry, but this is a really unhealthy attitude. The risks associated with breast implants and surgery in general are fairly high (including the implants rupturing, toxic shock syndrome, damage to nerves and tissue, being unable to breast feed, more risks assosiated with taking them out - they don't last forever and once they get removed the breasts look awful). For you to so casually say that the only way this woman (one with 34Cs!) can obtain perfection is for her to bow down to your needs and get risky surgery done really irks me. You wanna know why it shouldn't be socially common place? its risky surgeries (they require several, and have to be removed eventually), it feels fake, looks awful once removed, and is often done to please the guy who thought it'd be cool to casually mention that breast implants = perfection. I have nothing against implants, but damn dude.

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Artificially making yourself different makes you "perfect"? What a dumb idea.
 
Every woman I've encountered has been indecisive and it has slowly killed me. I need a break.

I know that feel.

But you can't wear yourself out investing that much time, energy, and giveafuck into each person you meet. They have to earn those things from you. (I'm not saying that people need to get down on all fours and beg you to call them or anything, just that they should at least show, clearly, that not only are they worth talking to from your side - but that they want to talk to you as well).
 
How do you ask out a waitress?

There's this one at a local 24/7 diner that me and some friends have started frequenting. We go there after seeing a midnight movie because the place has a deal where you get 20% off your meal if you have a movie ticket, and she's served us the last two times we've been there.

The first time I noticed her super cuteness but didn't think much of it because it's like whatever, but the second time was when I became smitten. During checkout me and my friends were joking around and talking with her and stuff and making her laugh, and she just seemed really swell. So now I kinda want to ask her out....but I don't know how!

I feel like it would be weird enough to do it while I'm with a group of friends, but I dunno when else I'd get a chance to. It's not like I'm ever going there to eat there or anywhere by myself.

Wat do, GAF?
 
You don't ask out a waitress.

edit: Their nice/cuteness towards you guys is usually cause she wants a big tip and wants you to become regulars...so she can get a big tip.
 
How do you ask out a waitress?

There's this one at a local 24/7 diner that me and some friends have started frequenting. We go there after seeing a midnight movie because the place has a deal where you get 20% off your meal if you have a movie ticket, and she's served us the last two times we've been there.

The first time I noticed her super cuteness but didn't think much of it because it's like whatever, but the second time was when I became smitten. During checkout me and my friends were joking around and talking with her and stuff and making her laugh, and she just seemed really swell. So now I kinda want to ask her out....but I don't know how!

I feel like it would be weird enough to do it while I'm with a group of friends, but I dunno when else I'd get a chance to. It's not like I'm ever going there to eat there or anywhere by myself.

Wat do, GAF?

Why can't you go by yourself?
 
Maybe ask her when her shift is over. If it's not for another few hours, then you could leave her your number.
 
You don't ask out a waitress.

edit: Their nice/cuteness towards you guys is usually cause she wants a big tip and wants you to become regulars...so she can get a big tip.

That's not always true. Waitresses need love too - people just screw up when they blur the lines between good service and hospitality with actual interest. Like right now, its very possible dude is going there and the waitress is simply enjoying his group instead of him in particular.

That's why I'm asking if he can ever go alone. If the conversation is anywhere close to the same, then he can narrow it down from "she likes it when my friends and I come through" to "she likes it when I come through" and it becomes a lot easier to see what things actually look like.

Simping is still a real thing though. If you're tipping 50% or something crazy over the top then start telling yourself lies like her enthusiasm is not coming from the money, then you're hard up either way. Its just a matter of narrowing things down and not playing yourself.
 
Hey someone linked me to this reddit (sorry) thing asking women to list things that men were insecure about that didn't actually matter. Thought it might make an interesting read/ confidence booster. Here it is.
 
At the beginning of the date, tell the girl you have X to do at Y'o clock.

Is that going to make everything really awkward? I really do have something I have to do, haha. I'm not sure if I'm interested or not, like I said I'm a little turned off from some stuff I recently found out but I'm giving it a chance.
 
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