AgentChris
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Putting Good Job Bob on ignore is the greatest thing ever. Someone who calls people idiots for liking something he doesn't... yea
The Amazing Spider-Man |OT|
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"Soulless producers & hack writers.
Product, product, product... money, product.
Soulless horrible hacks all get together & they shove all this shit into something & take a dump."
That is exactly how pretty much every superhero movie should be described that isn't made by Sam Raimi or Nolan in the past 10 years.
This picture doesn't prove anything. Just because it might be faithful to a comic doesn't mean it translates well to the screen.
There were other, much better alternative designs they could have chosen. Some of them were posted in an article a couple pages back.
triplestation
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Yo Iron Man was the bomb.
I don't think I have written anything spoilery so haven't tagged anything inw hat I wrote, if anyone notices do point it out.
Saw it earlier, thought it wa good, nothing special, I can't really remember how I felt about Spider-Man 1/2 when they came out, but having Spider-Man 3 as the latest memory of a Spider-Man film before this, well, this was much better than that mess.
It was honestly nice not seeing Maguire, I never really thought he made that great of a Spider-Man in his trilogy and most of the time was a bit of a wet blanket, I thought Garfield was pretty good, pulled the comic side far better and well, there was generally more of a comic nature to the film than the previous films.
Emma Stone > Kirsten Dunst any day of the week, while watching the film I couldn't help but turn to my gf and say "I'm not sure those legs are office policy" which she thought was amusing, as a little cheesy as it was I felt she and andrew had better chemistry than Maguire and Dunst did.
It will be interesting to see where they take the characters and what they will do with Gwen as a character and introducing Mary Jane.
The Lizard was alright but, I don't know, felt like they never developed him as much as they could have, I kinda feel bad for the guy who played Connors in the original trilogy through the three films and never actually become the Lizard, lol.
Overall I enjoyed it, which is what I want from going to the cinema, I don't have a problem with reboots so much, the direction they were taking the previous films, well, they managed to butcher Venom so it was reason enough to kill that off, and as I previously noted I'm not sure I could take another film with Maguire.
Hopefully they can develop it more for the next one, who knows, maybe we will get another SM2 to SM 1 again and the sequel will be better than this.
Saw it earlier, thought it wa good, nothing special, I can't really remember how I felt about Spider-Man 1/2 when they came out, but having Spider-Man 3 as the latest memory of a Spider-Man film before this, well, this was much better than that mess.
It was honestly nice not seeing Maguire, I never really thought he made that great of a Spider-Man in his trilogy and most of the time was a bit of a wet blanket, I thought Garfield was pretty good, pulled the comic side far better and well, there was generally more of a comic nature to the film than the previous films.
Emma Stone > Kirsten Dunst any day of the week, while watching the film I couldn't help but turn to my gf and say "I'm not sure those legs are office policy" which she thought was amusing, as a little cheesy as it was I felt she and andrew had better chemistry than Maguire and Dunst did.
It will be interesting to see where they take the characters and what they will do with Gwen as a character and introducing Mary Jane.
The Lizard was alright but, I don't know, felt like they never developed him as much as they could have, I kinda feel bad for the guy who played Connors in the original trilogy through the three films and never actually become the Lizard, lol.
Overall I enjoyed it, which is what I want from going to the cinema, I don't have a problem with reboots so much, the direction they were taking the previous films, well, they managed to butcher Venom so it was reason enough to kill that off, and as I previously noted I'm not sure I could take another film with Maguire.
Hopefully they can develop it more for the next one, who knows, maybe we will get another SM2 to SM 1 again and the sequel will be better than this.
Not really, just responding to certain unreasonable critic points. And I like how almost every post you make is the opposite, cheerleading on the opinion that ASM isn't as good as Raimi's SM, and yet you haven't even seen the movie. In all honesty though, I feel a lot of my posts have been about sequel speculations (as that's what hypes me most). When I talk about Raimi SM though, it's because I feel obliged as a fanboy of that franchise to say that ASM was great as well.
I'm not tbh. I usually am fond of Solo's impressions but how can you form an objective opinion when you practically now know the entire movie thanks to everyone in here talking about all the details/spoilers? Not to mention going in knowing to look out for the good and bad x y & z from all the impressions in this thread.
One Q Solo; why did you come in this thread and start participating in all the spoiler talk before watching the movie? I would think you hate getting spoiled as much as the next guy.
triplestation
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Solo after you go see Amazing Spider-Man please leave the cinema and go directly home and not the gun store and just tell yourself it will be alright.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Pretty much, but the
fly-catching scene
Just watched the ending of SM2, it shits all over ASM, no contest. Such a shame that SM3 and Sony/Raimi's relationship turned out like it did, I would of loved to seen many more films like SM1/SM2 with these characters.
Dat SCORE with Spidey swinging away from MJ! :0
Edit: andddddd SM3 is already going down hill right before the first commercial break even starts. I have a paper to write, but for the first time since opening day at the theatre, I'm kind of curious to watch SM3 again (just to rewitness the train wreck). I'm horrible I know.....
Triple Oceans
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I really thought the same thing. I liked how it was more prevelant in this movie than the previous ones.
Yeah I wish they would've just done SM4 to redeem SM3's shittyness. They could've finally used Conners as Lizard and it would've been an awesome villain character since he's been around since the start. Damn shame indeed. On some level i'm still happy about a reboot if not just for the better SM we'll have to work with going forward, but if it was up to me SM4 should've happened or SM should've rebooted in the MCU.
Good Job Bob
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Dr. Connors in the Raimi trilogy was such a cock tease, and now we're all blue balled for eternity.
Really could've been something special.
To first paragraph/bolded: I really don't much aside from the crane scene. Most of the stuff in here is on a pretty vague level ("the editing sucks!"), so I'm hardly going in with a bullet poin list of shit. I'll just be watching it like any other movie.
As to the second: I have been in here because I haven't really had any hype for the movie and haven't been overly worried about seeing anything. Which, in my experience (having no/lowered expectations/hype) has never hurt.
quickwhips
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went and saw the movie last night. I really liked it. Thought it was best spiderman so far. I liked the how they made Peter into an intelligent person that I thought was missing in the other movies.
Spider Senses and Web in sewer are really cool with the camera taking pictures.
ViewtifulJC
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A pessimist is never disappointed
Having just gone on a huge Spiderman binge and watched all three back to back after seeing the new one, you might be remembering this wrong. Peter is smart as hell in the Raimi ones, the difference is that his intelligence is a little more down to earth in those. He's a super genius in the new one. Heck, he is telling Doc Ock multiple times that he doesn't think his device is going to work properly leading up to the incident in Spiderman 2, so he is in no way portrayed as a dope. So he is certainly smart in the old ones too, he's just some sort of prodigy in the new one. Which is fine, I'm not saying that as a negative.
FrenchMovieTheme
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i saw it an i guess it was ok. i'd probably give it a 5/10. i didn't think this was a movie that needed to be made in the first place. i thought there was a lot of shitty embarrassing moments that shouldn't have been in the movie (all the crying scenes, especially the "oh hey shop clerk u can go deal with that robber i'm going to take 5 steps this way. what? a gun shot? uncle ben nooooooo! why!").
i'm not looking for an oscar worthy script out of a comic movie but this was just really bad. also, why is it that spider man can be tossed through walls and basically have the shit kicked out of him by lizard but if a bullet grazes him his leg hurts a lot and he limps?
i think i'm just burned out on these type of comic movies. the lame one liner jokes (why dont u like my meatloaf!) and the sappy love stories have really worn me down. but i will say the fight scenes were entertaining. not a bad movie to see in theaters but it's not even in the same galaxy as avengers
i'm not looking for an oscar worthy script out of a comic movie but this was just really bad. also, why is it that spider man can be tossed through walls and basically have the shit kicked out of him by lizard but if a bullet grazes him his leg hurts a lot and he limps?
i think i'm just burned out on these type of comic movies. the lame one liner jokes (why dont u like my meatloaf!) and the sappy love stories have really worn me down. but i will say the fight scenes were entertaining. not a bad movie to see in theaters but it's not even in the same galaxy as avengers
quickwhips
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You are probably correct. It has just been a while since I have seen them.
I totally agree with this.
ViewtifulJC
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Watching Spider-Man 3 on FX
That Harry/Peter battle is right up there with the Spidey/Doc Ock battle from SM2. That was pretty damn slick.
And this Sandman birth scene is wonderful
That Harry/Peter battle is right up there with the Spidey/Doc Ock battle from SM2. That was pretty damn slick.
And this Sandman birth scene is wonderful
Good Job Bob
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I wouldn't say it's on par with the train fight but it really is a slick action sequence that doesn't get nearly enough love because everything that surrounds it is pretty bad.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
In my eyes Spiderman 3 doesn't exist. We recieved a teaser spotlighting the amazing transformation of Flynn turning into Sandman and then Sony shut everything down.
Seriously though, just watched that scene on FX. As shitty as SM3 was, that just might be the greatest Spiderman moment to ever grace the big screen. Once again, better then anything in ASM (IMO). It gives me even more faith that Raimi could of done a good SM3 without the interference of studio executives.
Edit: yeah, the Harry/Tobey fight scene at night is really good and vastly underrated. I don't know why everybody acts like ASM's action blows away Raimi's SM action scenes. While the lizard fight in the highschool was badass to look at had some killer moments, in the end it likes the proper substance to be a great fight scene IMO.
Oh god shut up Topher Grace/Brock.
Are you talking about the first Goblin vs Peter fight w/ the wedding ring? I HATE that scene. CG is awful, none of the physics feel right, everything is floaty, the design of New Goblin is awful, etc.
Spidey 2 train sequence shits on it from great heights. Like, Empire State Building heights.
Spidey 2 train sequence shits on it from great heights. Like, Empire State Building heights.
JetBlackPanda
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THANK YOU SMART THINKING PEOPLE FOR NOT FALLING COMPLETELY FOR CORPORATE CHURNING MOVIE CRAP!
Now only for every Marvel Studios movie to completely bomb.
Problem is Amazing Spiderman kicks the shit out of the Raimi movies.
ViewtifulJC
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Man, Kirsten Dunst got real old real fast
The only SM3 action sequence that can be compared to the train fight in my mind is the Sandman one in the subway system. That one had some really creative ideas. Everything else was just trash.
Wedding ring fight was too ridiculous and fake looking (it did have a nice ending with the tripwire)
Sandman armored car fight was decent but short lived.
Harry/Peter fistfight was godawful and inconsistent with the rest of the film, with Harry's face only being slightly burned by the pumpkin bomb, and Eddie dying horribly later.
The giant Sandman was really dumb and the fight didn't have much going on.
Everyone knows how lame the Venom fight was.
Wedding ring fight was too ridiculous and fake looking (it did have a nice ending with the tripwire)
Sandman armored car fight was decent but short lived.
Harry/Peter fistfight was godawful and inconsistent with the rest of the film, with Harry's face only being slightly burned by the pumpkin bomb, and Eddie dying horribly later.
The giant Sandman was really dumb and the fight didn't have much going on.
Everyone knows how lame the Venom fight was.
rollingstart
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That line is Shakespearean. Xmen Origins Wolverine is too high brow for most folk.
EliteArtist
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Youre killing me. I know writers were hired. But it doesnt change the fact that literally a few days ago (now that Ive looked it up) Sony for whatever reason, said this would be a trilogy in an official statement. We knew there would be a sequel. Hell, we figured it would be a trilogy or even more, a series if it turns out that way. Its redundant that Sony would officially say that. Which is what I was joking about. Lets move on now that Ive had to explain my joke shall we?
So, im at the theater now, ready to watch this in 3D for my second viewing. Lets. Do. This.
ViewtifulJC
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That giant William Defoe painting cracks me up. Somebody actually painted that thing, man.
The stupidest thing about SM3 besides all the damn dance numbers and shit, was that Sandman conclusion. It's nice that you forgive him, Peter, but uh...you realize you just let that mass-murderer/bank robber/escape convict just WALK AWAY, right?
The stupidest thing about SM3 besides all the damn dance numbers and shit, was that Sandman conclusion. It's nice that you forgive him, Peter, but uh...you realize you just let that mass-murderer/bank robber/escape convict just WALK AWAY, right?
"Correction, sir. That's blown out."
The difference is you don't see his intelligence in action in the Raimi trilogy. You do in this
Just got back from it. It was OK, but I thought Spider-Man (2001) was almost superior in every aspect. This movie came off as a little cheesy. I did enjoy Peter's character before he became Spider-Man. I didn't necessarily think that it was a better story, but it was enjoyable, nonetheless.
One thing I absolutely hated was the chemistry between Peter and the girl....it felt like they were strangers even after
. Just felt like random talking to me. Also, Peter coming to his powers was poorly executed, IMO. I didn't feel as if he felt "overwhelmed and confused" with such a life-changing abilities. Or maybe this was just a more mature Spidey =p
Also about the scene after the credits:
One thing I absolutely hated was the chemistry between Peter and the girl....it felt like they were strangers even after
her dad was killed
Also about the scene after the credits:
Who was that?
Wait...Sandman was a mass-murderer? Didn't he just (accidentally) kill one man?
I'm watching it as well. The first hour or so of this movie isn't bad, it's just the last 1/3rd is so exceedingly bad that it's all anyone remembers
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
It's amazing how we have people saying this while others (very few) are claiming this is on par/worse then SM3. The spectrum is wide on this one folks.
How anybody thinks this movie kicks SM 1 and SM 2's ass is beyond me though.
Easy
Non shit actors with actual chemistry, better cinematography, doesnt look as cheap, better depiction of the characters, action wise and personality wise, more genuine emotions...
Good Job Bob
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Yup, that's Sam Raimi's Spider Man 1 released in 2002.
none of those things describe that film
Good Job Bob
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Agreed, none of those things describe TAS.
Expendable.
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Caught this today. I loved most of the casting and thought Andrew Garfield was perfect, as he felt completely natural as Spidey where I didn't think so with Tobey. There's a few well-done sequences, mostly involving Parker and Stacy. But man, did the whole thing come off like every facet was made by a studio. 500 Days of Summer wasn't the greatest movie of all time, but it showed a lot of promise by Webb. That one was brimming with creativity and inventiveness in some of the filmmaking. Here, I could count on one hand the amount of times I marveled at a specific shot or sequence. I liked Ifans, but I found it difficult to care about his storyline. Also, thought the score was obtrusive in many scenes and some poor editing, especially early on. So, overall it was a perfectly fine movie, but inept in crafting any sort of distinctive style. Though now that the needless introduction story is out of the way, I will be interested in seeing where this goes (despite Orci/Kurtzman penning the sequel).
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Eh? SM1 has a great cast with good chemistry across the board. You don't think SM1 has any genuine emotion? Uncle Ben's death was affecting, Peter's relationship with aunt May is moving. The ending with MJ where she looks back after kissing Peter, realizing who he might be has genuine power. Photographically it's not as slick as ASM but it certainly makes better use of NYC and is a lot more colorful.
Good Job Bob
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In all seriousness I can agree with this:
..but CERTAINLY not this:
Their wasn't a drop of genuine emotion or personality in this lifeless film.
I get what you're trying to say by better cinematography and it not looking as "cheap", but I vastly prefer the unique visual style in SM1 to the bland corporate visual style in this.
..but CERTAINLY not this:
Their wasn't a drop of genuine emotion or personality in this lifeless film.
I get what you're trying to say by better cinematography and it not looking as "cheap", but I vastly prefer the unique visual style in SM1 to the bland corporate visual style in this.
I thought the colors in ASM were pretty great. The night scenes in NY looked beautiful.
I cant stand Tobey and Dunst in those movies. Everything about them falls completely flat with me. Don't like the original aunt may either.
The only things that ever worked in Raimi's movies for me were J Jonah Jameson and Doc Ock.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Basically you're saying Spidey, Peter, and Gwen are better and the action scenes are prettier. We get that. But what about the script, editing, dialogue, score? And how you can come to the conclusion that the cinematography is better then SM1 (much less SM2) is baffling to me. So many iconic scenes made by the brilliant filming methods chosen by Raimi. I don't remember anything memorable about how this Spiderman was filmed.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
I'll agree the chemistry between Gwen and Peter was much better here then what we have ever seen between Tobey/Dunst, but the overall movie had zero emotional impact that landed for me
outside of Peter bringing back some eggs to Aunt May
I guess its purely subjective.
Like I said, I have nothing but negative reactions to anything involving Maguire and Dunst on screen in those movies. They have 0 emotional involvement in my eyes. Absolute on screen poison.
Peters argument with Ben, him asking out Gwen in the school, heck even his reaction to Captain Stacey's death all felt so much more genuine.
Like I said, I have nothing but negative reactions to anything involving Maguire and Dunst on screen in those movies. They have 0 emotional involvement in my eyes. Absolute on screen poison.
Peters argument with Ben, him asking out Gwen in the school, heck even his reaction to Captain Stacey's death all felt so much more genuine.
hoverboarder
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I'd love to see the Rhino in a film. He was always a fun villain in the movie games, but never appeared in the old films. More interesting than the Vulture. And having both of them would actually make for a cool film, especially with the previously mentioned inevitable Green Goblin in the third rounding out the new trilogy.
Hope he's out of high school for the next one.
Hope he's out of high school for the next one.
You know, Bob, most of the time I find you're quite an intelligent poster with smart quips to back up your opinions, but these posts exemplify those moments when you become a condescending, unbearable child.
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