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3 out of 5 stars from James Rocchi: http://www.movies.com/movie-news/the-dark-knight-rises-review/8781
The Dark Knight Rises |OT| The Legend Ends (Warning: Unmarked Spoilers Within)
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This is getting weirder all the time
I don't want to be that guy, but all the worst reviews so far really do have serious issues with them. I'm not just pretending to make myself feel better, all the reviews with issues (so far) happen to be the ones with the worst scores.
Edit: and then Expendable drops that while I'm typing this. I'm gonna have to read that one
Edit: and then Expendable drops that while I'm typing this. I'm gonna have to read that one
Angry Fork
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ruh roh
Avengers had issues and was in no way perfect but it was a a very fun movie and a completely different animal. Not sure how a sane comparison can be done with that.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_dark_knight_rises/comments/?reviewid=2095667Carson D said:
So which gaffer is that?
The Elite
BOSS
Obviously he doesn't like freedom, Apple Pie and strong American values.
SWAT that were Joker's goons.
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3/5 is still fresh
No, the people dressed as doctors were Joker's goons. The SWAT were legitimately members of law enforcement who didn't realize who the real hostages were.
OneEightZero
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They...weren't?
This guy doesn't know who Bane is at all, does he? Spoilers in there, btw.
Oh shit, you're right.
Completely forgot it was the other way around. Either way, halfway through that scene the SWAT realize that the hostages were swapped with the goons.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_dark_knight/reviews/?sort=rotten
Here's all the rottens from The Dark Knight. It'll be interesting to see how many from this list return to give rottens on TDKR.
Seems like people's problems with TDK will become their problems with TDKR. (long running time, too many storylines going on, dark/brooding, etc)
Here's all the rottens from The Dark Knight. It'll be interesting to see how many from this list return to give rottens on TDKR.
Seems like people's problems with TDK will become their problems with TDKR. (long running time, too many storylines going on, dark/brooding, etc)
Doesn't really explain why he doesn't like the movie. More about what he doesn't like about Nolan's directing style. It does seem the characters in general aren't as great as TDK and some prior complaints I've seen about Nolan's directing stay being too cold and detached rings true here as well.
Yeah, you're right.
It's still flimsy, I realize that. I think Messypanda probably has a better explanation of why people would think Batman killed Dent.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
It's really amazing that even critics seem to be split on if it's the best or worst of the trilogy. To me, that speaks so well on how Nolan's efforts have been consistently great.
I'm super excited to see TDKR (going twice: this Sat. with the GF, next Sat. with the family), but I'm almost more excited to see Begins-GAF, TDK-GAF, and Rise-GAF fight it out the weeks/months/years after release.
I'm super excited to see TDKR (going twice: this Sat. with the GF, next Sat. with the family), but I'm almost more excited to see Begins-GAF, TDK-GAF, and Rise-GAF fight it out the weeks/months/years after release.
Yeah. It's not like the public of Gotham have a real sense of Batman's moral code. It's not like he sent out an email blast of his rules.
Exactly, this is what messes up that argument for me. The SWAT eventually discovered the hostages were dressed up as the goons, and that Batman was trying to save them. Unless the SWAT team is in on the lie too. But like someone said, it's a guy in a bat costume, he's bound to become crazy enough to murder someone sooner or later in the average citizen's eyes.
One thing I love about Nolan is he has no interest in making the same movie over and over.
And I think that's why this trilogy divides people up. BB, TDK, and Rises each feel very different from each other in tone, themes, and atmosphere. And I think that's a great thing.
Well written review. His opinion seems a bit too concerned with the context surrounding The Dark Knight Rises (and what its legacy will be), but I suppose it's something he see's the film as being concerned with as well.
It worries me, in a way..because the absolute worst way this film could leave me feeling is luke-warm. I'd much rather hate it!
Hmm. I would say critics seem split on whether it's better than TDK. Most seem to just implicitly accept that it's better than Batman Begins. Makes the reviews kind of useless for a lot of BatGAF. Haha.
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One thing I always notice is that people tend to take negative reviews at their words more seriously than positive ones for some reason. 20 positive reviews can come out saying amazing movie, amazing characters, great action! And then a negative one comes out and says characters were alright, action was meh. And then some people will be all 'now I'm worried about the action and characters".
Emotion is nothing. Will is everything!
Escape Goat
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TDKR will fail or succeed based on craft services.
Messypandas
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WOW. Stunning sound mix. Works so well without any dialogue
So this kinda bothered me in that review:
And that he makes comparisons to Joker and Dent from Bane and Catwoman, but they are valid. So basically what's the main criticism in all of the reviews is that the movie isn't as tightly written as the Dark Knight, but I'm wondering if it's because the film has to deal with unresolved plot threads stemming two films as well as the ones introduced in its own film. Like, it's a lot of stuff to cover so I understand if it's going to get a bit convoluted.
And that he makes comparisons to Joker and Dent from Bane and Catwoman, but they are valid. So basically what's the main criticism in all of the reviews is that the movie isn't as tightly written as the Dark Knight, but I'm wondering if it's because the film has to deal with unresolved plot threads stemming two films as well as the ones introduced in its own film. Like, it's a lot of stuff to cover so I understand if it's going to get a bit convoluted.
bengraven
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That's what I was waiting for. All I needed to hear to ignore this movie.
Yeah I don't get that either. TDK had 18 rottens and plenty of fresh reviews that were only 3/5.
That didn't make TDK any less epic.
Good Job Bob
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You're still kicking this dumb meme around?
That's not Armond White.
This is the best one I've seen yet. That shot of Catwoman is fucking awesome.
demosthenes
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Dent was never referred to as Two-Face he became him right? It was only earlier in the movie when someone said "what did they use to call you" or something like that?
You must love all the Godfather trilogy as a whole then.
That's because I want some insight with the criticism. Any sort of contrarian analysis is always interesting to read because they got something different out of the move compared to everybody else.
I think it's well written overall but he lost me a little then. Complains that they can't have fun with Catwoman like they did Joker and then praises Dent as being more effective because he was a tragic figure. It seems a little contradictory to cite both as being negatives.
Fuck it, I'm seeing it very soon and then on Friday as well. A few rewatches is what I need. Seen the first two near to 10 times each and they both hold up so I'm really hoping this doesn't become a chore. Nothing better than a 3 hour movie that flies by. Something like Jesse James whizzes past for me.
demosthenes
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Good thing I'm rewatching BB on Wed and TDK on Thursday!
Angry Fork
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Everyone jumped in the theater @ "SAY IT!" lol
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That Say it! line was amazing.
Good Job Bob
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God, I wish my IMAX (or any local theater) was doing this.
Bingo. Nolan could have easily gotten away with TDK2, practically ignoring Begins and making another crime epic, just swapping the Joker for the Riddler.
He didn't, and WB didn't pressure him into doing anything either (even though that's probably precisely what they wanted). I think they deserve a lot of credit for that.
It pretty much sounded like he thought the characters were boring and pretty procedural.
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