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CFA response to anti-gay alleg. "Guilty as charged." Do NOT gloat about eating at CFA

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lunch said:
I can't think of any other safety issue they could invent that's related to puppets, short of swallowing them.

Don't get me wrong, I think they're a scummy company, but these are the same people that gave the asinine interview in the OP. I don't think they're clever enough to come up with some sort of awful anal sex joke, and it seems like they're trying to backpedal anyway.
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Chik-Fil-A itself probably wouldn't, but a homophobic franchisee very well might, and that sign doesn't look like it came all the way from the top.
 
Oh snap. I started a "conservative Christian" vs "Atheist liberal" fight on Facebook just by posting the Muppet and Chick-Fil-A story.

*grabs popcorn*
 
Tess3ract said:
I missed that whole puppet thing, what's that about?
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Jim Henson company doesn't agree with Chick-Fil-A's anti-gay marriage stance. Thus they decided they would pull their toys from them and any money that Chick-Fil-A donated to the Jim Henson company will now be donated to someplace else.
 
Cyan said:
So how quickly did they jump to the intolerance of intolerance argument?
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CC post: Something something something... freedom of speech. Listing companies that were pro-gay as well as companies as anti-gay... Limiting yourself due to boycotting.

AL post: Choosing not to eat at ChickFilA due to stance... blah blah everyone is equal...

CC post: "leftist response". Chick-Fil-A boycott will be petty, but bought up the fact that when JCPenny went pro-gay that apparently they lost profit. Gay marriage not on the same level as human rights, such as slavery and women's rights. Why are Christians considered hatred and bigoted. "I have people of homosexual orientation on my friends list. Don't agree with the life style." Marriage is a christian institution. Blah blah. All the normal talking points.
 
I mean I understand the theory behind not supporting a business because you don't agree with this kind of stuff. However, if it is something I truly love, I'm not going to deny myself of it, because of some self-righteous virtue of "supporting the wrong cause". Some people won't go to Chick-Fil-A because of this, but as much as some of you won't admit it, some people WILL choose to go there because they support the cause.
 
Captain Sparrow said:
I mean I understand the theory behind not supporting a business because you don't agree with this kind of stuff. However, if it is something I truly love, I'm not going to deny myself of it, because of some self-righteous virtue of "supporting the wrong cause". Some people won't go to Chick-Fil-A because of this, but as much as some of you won't admit it, some people WILL choose to go there because they support the cause.
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Because you're giving money that indirectly supports their "no gay" agenda.
 
Captain Sparrow said:
I mean I understand the theory behind not supporting a business because you don't agree with this kind of stuff. However, if it is something I truly love, I'm not going to deny myself of it, because of some self-righteous virtue of "supporting the wrong cause". Some people won't go to Chick-Fil-A because of this, but as much as some of you won't admit it, some people WILL choose to go there because they support the cause.
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Ok, so what does this have to do with...

Captain Sparrow said:
I'm sooooo tired of seing the world "Bigot" EVERYWHERE when this topic comes up. It bugs me when you see everyone always rehashing the same words and statements that they read elsewhere. Opinions mean more when they are with your own words.

The real "bigots" are those who think their opinion is law when it comes to being pro gay marriage. Your opinion is just as "right" as anyone elses. Homophobe is another word that is used extremely too often. You don't have to be a homophobe to not want gay marriage.
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Oh, right.
 
Captain Sparrow said:
I mean I understand the theory behind not supporting a business because you don't agree with this kind of stuff. However, if it is something I truly love, I'm not going to deny myself of it, because of some self-righteous virtue of "supporting the wrong cause". Some people won't go to Chick-Fil-A because of this, but as much as some of you won't admit it, some people WILL choose to go there because they support the cause.
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If Chick-Fil-A funded anti-voting rights for black people, you wouldn't stop going there because you don't want to deny yourself a chicken sandwich over some self-righteous virtue?

Ok, thanks for letting us know.
 
Captain Sparrow said:
I mean I understand the theory behind not supporting a business because you don't agree with this kind of stuff. However, if it is something I truly love, I'm not going to deny myself of it, because of some self-righteous virtue of "supporting the wrong cause". Some people won't go to Chick-Fil-A because of this, but as much as some of you won't admit it, some people WILL choose to go there because they support the cause.
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We don't have to admit that which is obvious to everyone.

I mean, duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh.





EDIT- Also, for lols, please explain how a virtue may be self-righteous.
 
Captain Sparrow said:
I mean I understand the theory behind not supporting a business because you don't agree with this kind of stuff. However, if it is something I truly love, I'm not going to deny myself of it, because of some self-righteous virtue of "supporting the wrong cause". Some people won't go to Chick-Fil-A because of this, but as much as some of you won't admit it, some people WILL choose to go there because they support the cause.
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Oh the irony.
 
It's certainly interesting imagining how this situation would play out if Chick-Fil-A was being this blatant about funding the discrimination of some other minority group.
 
chubigans said:
Man, is it me, or has the Onion gone way downhill?

I mean that's the easiest article they could have written about this thing. Bah.
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I was going to say the same thing. I don't read The Onion regularly, but in between this article and the one on the Aurora shootings, they've been really unfunny as of late.

Cyan said:
Oh, right.
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It's literally the intolerance of intolerance argument you mentioned.
 
Damn. CF has tasty spicy chicken and cookies. While I'm not a believer in the idea that lifestyle and consumer choices have any actual power or potential, I still have a hard time eating at a fascist restaurant. Guess I won't be stopping in there on the occasional road trip anymore.
I mean, if we're concerned about the bad shit that these fast food places stand for and do, we shouldn't eat at any of them. Clear cutting rainforests for grazing land, running fucking CAFOs and torturing living, breathing, sentient beings in fucking conditions like concentration camps, selling empty-calorie, anti-nutritional food at super low costs (thanks to govn't subsidizing) and thus poisoning the population, particularly the low income part of it, turning unique, deep-rooted communities into fucking homogeneous strips of terrible logos and soulless repetition . . . meh.


Fucking spicy chicken is good, though, no joke. Fuck you, Chick-Fil-A, for your bigotry and idiocy.
 
It's easy for me to boycot Chic-Fil-A because if I want an overpriced chicken sandwhich that actually tastes good and I don't want to support discriminatation I go to Arby's. I eat shitty fast food all the time, so I don't get why people hold them in such high regard. It's probably because, before I knew the company was anti-gay, we had a CFA in my college's cafeteria and I ate it way too much. They make shitty fried chicken sandwhiches. The fact they give you the lettuce and tomatoe seperately, at least in my experience back then, should speak volumes. You won't even let your employees spread juicy buns and place messy condiments in there? Okay that last part was hyperbole, but it still doesn't disprove that only thing of value CFA sells is there waffle fries. I'll suffer shitty Arby curly fries if it means I'm not supporting bigots.
 
Wario64 said:
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Wow.

"Though shall not lie unless it's in the pursuit of persecution against homosexuals"
 
Chicago joining Boston

Ald.Proco "Joe" Moreno announced this week that he will block Chick-fil-A's effort to build its second Chicago store, which would be in the Logan Square neighborhood, following company President Dan Cathy's remarks last week that he was "guilty as charged" for supporting the biblical definition of marriage as between a man and woman.

"If you are discriminating against a segment of the community, I don't want you in the 1st Ward," Moreno told the Tribune on Tuesday.

Moreno stated his position in strong terms, referring to Cathy's "bigoted, homophobic comments" in a proposed opinion page piece that an aide also sent to Tribune reporters. "Because of this man's ignorance, I will now be denying Chick-fil-A's permit to open a restaurant in the 1st Ward."

The alderman has the ideological support of Mayor Rahm Emanuel.

"Chick-fil-A values are not Chicago values," the mayor said in a statement when asked about Moreno's decision. "They disrespect our fellow neighbors and residents. This would be a bad investment, since it would be empty."

Moreno is relying on a rarely violated Chicago tradition known as aldermanic privilege, which dictates that City Council members defer to the opinion of the ward alderman on local issues. Last year Moreno wielded that weapon to block plans for a Wal-Mart in his ward, saying he had issues with the property owner and that Wal-Mart was not "a perfect fit for the area."

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The alderman, serving his first full term, dismissed any First Amendment concerns.

"You have the right to say what you want to say, but zoning is not a right,"
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Full article here
 
FelixOrion said:
Yes yes, but I hear their chicken sandwichs are heavenly.

I've never actually been to CFA. Not exactly planning to now.
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As much as their policies piss me off, they have the most divine chicken nuggets of any fast food chain. And the waffle fries are heaven as well.

Thankfully, there are not any Chick Fil A up here in CT. So it makes it easy to ignore them.
 
It is rather astounding, really, that a spokesperson of a company would actually say such an extreme stance out loud--hasn't it occurred to that person that such statement when made in the open for everyone to see will cause terrible effect to business?

That's like... grade school level of reasoning....
 
PhoenixDark said:
I'm curious, what end game are those upset over this expecting or hoping for? The company going out of business, being shamed into changing their policy, what exactly?

CFA doesn't discriminate customers, but use their first amendment rights to support causes that many people disagree with - but many support as well. I see no reason for outrage or even a reason to care about this. If they want to support bigoted organizations, that is their right. And if you decide not to eat there due to this, that is your right.
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Yeah, sure it's their right, but it is also the right of people to publicise that and take action based on that. I don't understand why there has to be an end game. I hope they change their policy, but I'm not expecting it. I hope they make less money, but I'm not expecting that, either. I am expecting that MY money will not be supporting causes I strongly disagree with.

And if a company supports a group that many people agree with there is no reason to care? Even if I disagree with it? Your logic seems to be a case of 'I don't care, so why should you?'
 
It's also funny how people latch onto 1 or 2 highly arguable biblical passages about homosexuality, yet ignore all the stuff about gluttony while they're drinking their 850 calorie milkshakes with a chicken burger and fries. A fries, a sandwich, and a milkshake can garner you 1870 calories at CFA. Will CFA please limit how much one person can order, to like 1 menu item? If not, they believe making money is more important than enabling sin in a country already rife with gluttonous weight issues, especially in the bible belt.
 
I'll say that these new developments have me re-evaluating my stance. I'll have to figure out alternatives and the such over time... Or just fuck it and cook myself more. I need to be doing that anyway.
 
Dynedom said:
Laughing so god damn hard at that Abby facebook fiasco. Ahahahahaha.
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Just goes to show that you can't fool the internet.

Chick-fil-a needs to just stop trying to make it better. If they are willing to hold their position then they need to be prepared to take their lumps. They're not going to be able to PR their way out of it with all of the scrutiny they brought upon themselves.
 
For all the harping about "Christian Values" and such, they're still not above the same sleazy PR tactics so many other companies employ. A lot of folks were talking about how much respect they had for CFA being open and honest about their position, where are those folks now?
 
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