Xbox Live Arcade (XBLA) News and Announcements Thread - 2012 Edition
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toythatkills
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I don't think I used the word "sufficient," the controls aren't merely "sufficient," they're excellent.
I think the practical reason is that it would break the leaderboards. It would also be boring with a controller, because the game is quite slow to enable the player to add aftertouch and stuff, with a controller you'd just be sat waiting the whole time. And the splitting rock is easier to control with Kinect than it would be with a controller. Fact is that the game is more fun with Kinect than it would be with a controller, and so the Kinect is completely justified in this case.
I mean, the argument works both ways. There's no reason not to include Kinect support in Call of Duty but that wouldn't make it a better game and that doesn't mean you should do it.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Gamepad support might well have been sufficient, but I guess MS judged that it wasn't necessary.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Some reviewers indicated that they missed the precision of a controller for difficult shots. So it's not like that control style is lacking for this style of game. It's purely a Kinect marketing decision.
HadesGigas
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It's purely a "the game would be totally different if designed with both in mind" decision.
That doesn't even make any sense. SapientWolf is right even though I don't see any reason to complain about it. Microsoft wants to push more Kinect units, what else is new?
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Actually, to say it should have controller support without you know actually playing the game with Kinect is kind of silly.
Game works really good with Kinect, was ground up Kinect, and is one of the best uses of the Kinect I've seen yet.
The 1st game that my kids had zero issues playing so far on the thing... and it's fun.
Game would be stupid using a controller.
Game works really good with Kinect, was ground up Kinect, and is one of the best uses of the Kinect I've seen yet.
The 1st game that my kids had zero issues playing so far on the thing... and it's fun.
Game would be stupid using a controller.
BruiserBear
Banned
Wreckateer was built with Kinect in mind. Some of these shots take 15 seconds in the air before impact. The first thing we'd hear if this game had a controller option is "it's so boring waiting while the shot is in the air".
toythatkills
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Speaking as someone who a) has played the game and b) owns a Kinect, I feel a lot more qualified to hold an opinion about whether or not a controller would work for this game. It's easy to look at a screenshot and say "that should work with a controller" but your argument holds no weight whatsoever.
Whether it's possible or not, playing with a controller would make the game worse, and therefore it's completely logical that the option for it isn't there.
randomlyrossy
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Dunno where that date came from (I imagine a placeholder on Xbox.com though) but that game doesn't have an official release date yet.
yeah, i don't exactly put a lot of weight on the release dates on wikipedia as anyone can edit it. i was just searching online and happened to find wikipedia at least had a release date on this game. but yeah, i could go add that halo 4 xbox live arcade game is coming out tomorrow on there so its not the best resource for release dates. for the most part, though, its been correct.
SapientWolf
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It's not my argument. It's from someone else that played the game.
http://www.gamesradar.com/wreckateer-review/
Also, I think the Kinect requirement has limited the audience, because the game doesn't even have an OT here.
toythatkills
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I don't think it'd have an OT here even if used the controller, XBLA OTs basically don't exist. Deadlight doesn't even have one. No one's claimed Dust yet either, may have to do that myself because that's DEFINITELY getting an OT one way or another!
I don't think it's really limited the audience, either, it's just found a different audience that isn't on GAF. GAF doesn't have any interest in "Angry Birds 3D," regardless of the control input, but your average Kinect owner probably does.
I was wondering where the Deadlight OT was. This isn't really saying much of substance, but I think it's a situation of it ending up an Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet-style disappointment, or an incredible piece of work.
Speedymanic
Banned
ITSP was disappointing? In what way? I, personally thought it was great and am hoping for a sequel.
toythatkills
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I found it pretty disappointing, as well. I'm not really sure what else they could have done but the game is just so boring. I don't even know why, I just can't stay awake when I play it. Didn't really like how cumbersome the whole thing is to play, either. For a concept that's so simple they didn't half complicate it with all those add-ons that you have to keep changing between.
The little rocket minigame where you have to navigate it through a winding path to hit a switch was awesome though. The inertia on it was so satisfying.
ChosenPredator
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firepro makes the best wrestling games I am going to try this and see if the wrestling mechanics are still there because the avatars look atrocious..lets hope its good
PixyJunket
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This is going to be amazing.
piratepwnsninja
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IGN posted their Deadlight review early. They've seemingly pulled it, but it's here
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsfhym_deadlight-review_videogames
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsfhym_deadlight-review_videogames
Thanks.
Weird jumping and a 5 hour playtime? Hhhhmm, not gonna lie I wish the game was longer. I'll still give it a shot though.
FateBreaker
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For as much as he praised the game, the score feels too low, especially for his main complaint; it must be a big deal. Still, it's a great score. Day 1.
toythatkills
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:lol
How does that even happen?
Pretty sure Dust is going to be wearing the "best game in SoA" crown, though. If Microsoft don't award actual crowns, I'll make one myself.
Fox Mulder
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It would be hilarious if MS screws this up.
While the franchise has a history of being great wrestling games, this is like the perfect excuse to buy dumb shit for your avatar.
toythatkills
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That's where FameStar comes in. There'll be tons of outfits to choose from that you earn in other games.
Imagine how cool it would have been if it let you use your props though, my frying pan would beat EVERYTHING.
That looks fantastic.
BruiserBear
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Yeah, it'd probably be perfect of they added an extra 2 hours of backtracking.
piratepwnsninja
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Is there any date on Fire Pro? Can't seem to find one...
Or an extra two hours of fresh environments. When I was watching the review, I thought the reviewer was being serious about going through a dilapidated Microsoft HQ circa 1986, or whenever. That would've been awesome.
Deadlight isn't doing anything for me, has the same shitty look Limbo does. Most people may like it, but I'm not most people. I can't stand that silhouette art-style. It doesn't seem like its worth 1200 pointh to me.
Only thing I'm excited for is Hybrid from Winter of the Arcade. I'd rather get Tony Hawk HD on PC.
Only thing I'm excited for is Hybrid from Winter of the Arcade. I'd rather get Tony Hawk HD on PC.
MAtgS
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Holy crap it lives! I've long given up on that game.
Psst, Microsoft/Spike: if I could use avatar marketplace costumes in FPW, I may actually be motivated to buy some of them.
BruiserBear
Banned
Unfortunately I think a lot of developers take blanket comments like "I wish this game were longer" as invitations to artificially inflate the length of their games. Its always nice to want more, but you've also got to be realistic about a $15 game.
Speedymanic
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I see. I, personally, didn't find it boring but I can understand why some might have. I also didn't have a problem with the powers, I just used the hotkeys.
Ah well, maybe it's not for everyone...but I'm sure the same won't be true of Deadlight. Looks incredible.
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Oh wow, FPW lives. Was sure it had been quietly canned after that laughable trailer. :O
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Hmm, not sure I trust IGN enough to take their review of DL seriously, will wait for more trustworthy sources to chime in.
Family Fry
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Few new Xbox.com listings, excluding the fire pro wrestling one above
Original release date: 9/10/2012 (Sept 10th)
Original release date: 9/12/2012 (Sept 12th)
Release dates are just taken from the Xbox.com page and aren't always confirmed release dates.
Original release date: 9/10/2012 (Sept 10th)
When the Bears of Perfection Island went on holiday to Paradise Island, Naughty Bear was not invited! Naughty Bear manages to secretly travel with the other bears, duct-taped to the exterior of the bus. With a list of bears who wronged him in hands, Naughty is ready to make them pay, one by one.
A ninja is powerful yet fragile. Quick but deliberate. Mark of the Ninja is a stealth platformer that puts you in control of a Ninja who's clan is in danger of extinction. Observe your enemies from the darkness, manipulate them with simple yet versatile tools, and experience what it is to be a Ninja. From the award-winning studio that brought you Shank, Mark of the Ninja is a game about finesse, manipulation, and sacrifice.
Tag, grind, and trick to the beat in SEGA’s hit game Jet Set Radio! Fight for control of Tokyo-to, mark your turf with graffiti, tag walls, billboards, and even rival gang members! Perform tricks and flips on magnetically driven in-line skates, but watch out for the local police force!
Original release date: 9/12/2012 (Sept 12th)
Billy and Jimmy Lee are back to save their shared love interest, Marian from the evil Skullmageddon across 16 brawling levels filled with elaborate missions, malicious enemies and over-the-top battles. Trained by their sensei in the special form of martial arts called Sōsetsuken, Billy and Jimmy are equipped with lethal combat skills and weaponry to bust some faces and battle the baddest goons around as they journey across the galaxy to rescue the love of their lives.
Release dates are just taken from the Xbox.com page and aren't always confirmed release dates.
toythatkills
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Oh God that Naughty Bear thing has the some of the worst box art I've ever seen.
BruiserBear
Banned
For the love of god just give us a Jet Set release date!
toythatkills
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Speedymanic
Banned
Regarding the IGn review, he mentions that it's th best SoA title...so is it safe to assume that he's played Dust and wasn't impressed by it? Has the same reviewer reviewed the other SoA titles.
PopfulMail
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And at the same time.. that Double Dragon artwork is pretty damn slick!!
Wait until you play the actual game...
Chiaroscuro
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Played the demo of Wreckateer yesterday night. No way the game will be better or even fun to play using a controller. I did not like it that much with Kinect, but those saying that it would be better with a controller are nuts.
BruiserBear
Banned
I bought Wreckateer last night and think it's right up there with Fruit Ninja as the most fun I've had with a Kinect game.
Yyyyyes! If the mechanics are still good and the online play works well, I am going to be a happy, happy man.
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