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[Devolution]

Which you can stop using of you care so much. But you are not going to do that are you?

Stump already tackled this. Going in circles. Comparing Fried Chicken to necessities in life for work or the institutionalized problems of businesses using unfair labor practices is not the same as denying yourself chicken from a bigoted establishment.

 

[njean777]

Stump already tackled this. Going in circles. Comparing Fried Chicken to necessities in life for work or the institutionalized problems of businesses using unfair labor practices is not the same as denying yourself chicken from a bigoted establishment.

Oh so it only applies in certain situations, that is mighty convienient. /rolls eyes

 

[SouthernDragon]

Stump already tackled this. Going in circles. Comparing Fried Chicken to necessities in life for work or the institutionalized problems of businesses using unfair labor practices is not the same as denying yourself chicken.

I can't put it much better than this.

You're really going to compare petrol to a chicken sandwich? Really?

Spoiler

I'm reading The Prize by Daniel Yergin right now, highly recommended. Problem is, I see a lot of things in the context of the oil industry now.

 

[Keru_Shiri]

Should stop buying gas also, I mean if you are going to be a crusader, may as well go all the way. Same with all the rest of you. If you use gas or oil you are supporting homosexuals being put to death. Just FYI.

Oh. This argument again.

 

[FyreWulff]

Which you can stop using if you care so much. But you are not going to do that are you?

I'm not saying I approve of chickfila's stance, but I am saying at least they are not putting them to death.

What does anyone else have to do with this? The thread and this whole debacle is about Chic-fil-a. It's not black and white - as stated, we can more willingly abstain from giving CFA any money than we can OPEC. For starters, CFA is as easy as just not going to their restaurant. Going OPEC-free is essentially impossible.

 

[Devolution]

Oh so it only applies in certain situations, that is mighty convienient. /rolls eyes

Now you're just being petty. Some jobs require cars. All of them require some type of transportation and that uses gas too. Does your job require you intake fried chicken at Chick Fil-A to earn a living?

 

[DarkHeartedKill]

Personally I feel everyone should be able to do as they wish, as long as what they're doing isn't impeding on another persons rights and freedoms. I honestly don't see why people are all against gay marriage it doesn't effect you at all, why bud in on other peoples lives? There's a picture that is pretty funny in a sarcastic humous way that talks about the reasons why people are against homosexual marriage.

 

[Gaborn]

Oh so it only applies in certain situations, that is mighty convienient. /rolls eyes

So you're saying if you support ONE boycott you MUST support any and every possible boycott?

 

[Wallach]

Oh so it only applies in certain situations, that is mighty convienient. /rolls eyes

If they can't fix all the problems, they should obviously attempt to fix none of them. Is that your argument?

 

[Devolution]

If they can't fix all the problems, they should obviously attempt to fix none of them. Is that your argument?

"Can't boycott everything, boycott nothing" yes.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

What are some things people would give up if they found the makers have a similar stance to CFA?

 

[LyleLanley]

Which you can stop using if you care so much. But you are not going to do that are you?

I'm not saying I approve of chickfila's stance, but I am saying at least they are not putting them to death.

Some people literally cannot stop using gas if they want to keep their job, it's an unfortunate truth for many people without access to good/any public transportation, but no one in the entire world needs fried chicken sandwiches from a specific fast food restaurant.

 

[njean777]

So you're saying if you support ONE boycott you MUST support any and every possible boycott?

Well yes, I expect people to consistent. Is that wrong?

If they can't fix all the problems, they should obviously attempt to fix none of them. Is that your argument?

No my argument is instead of spending your time arguing on a message board, since I assume you care a lot about homosexuals, why not go after the bigger problem?

 

[Devolution]

Some people literally cannot stop using gas if they want to keep their job, it's an unfortunate truth for many people without access to good/any public transportation, but no one in the entire world needs fried chicken sandwiches from a specific fast food restaurant.

Even public transit is a risk because it's not always reliable, especially if you have to do a couple transfers. And you're still using gas. Plenty of places aren't within biking distance either. His argument is terrible really.

Well yes, I expect people to consistent. Is that wrong?

What else should people boycott or strip their lives of so they meet your arbitrary requirements for consistency?

 

[LyleLanley]

No my argument is instead of spending your time arguing on a message board, since I assume you care a lot about homosexuals, why not go after the bigger problem?

Are people not allowed to go after the bigger problem and boycott a homophobic fast food chain?

 

[Gaborn]

Well yes, I expect people to consistent. Is that wrong?

Of course it is. If I support a boycott of Chick Fil A should I be required to support the "Killer Coke" boycotters who are upset with the distributor in South America and are thus blaming the whole company? Supporting one political cause doesn't require you to support any and every cause under the sun and it's not inconsistent to support one boycott and even disagree with another but by your way of thinking a protester must boycott EVERYTHING.

 

[Mercury Fred]

Which you can stop using if you care so much. But you are not going to do that are you?

I'm not saying I approve of chickfila's stance, but I am saying at least they are not putting them to death.

Yes, and people concerned about the environment must now live in solar powered grass huts only and live exclusively off of food that they grow or catch themselves.

 

[njean777]

Even public transit is a risk because it's not always reliable, especially if you have to do a couple transfers. And you're still using gas. Plenty of places aren't within biking distance either. His argument is terrible really.




What else should people boycott or strip their lives of so they meet your arbitrary requirements for consistency?

Arbitrary? Really now? You care about gay rights, yet when I say stop buying gas because OPEC countries put them to death that is arbitrary? You are really just trying to win this argument with stupidity I see. Death is more final last time I checked, then not letting them marry each other...

Are people not allowed to go after the bigger problem and boycott a homophobic fast food chain?

No they are, as long as they are doing both then I have no problem with it, but if you continue to pick and choose on a whim then you are not solving anything. You are just trying make yourself feel better IMO. Truly standing up for gays would be to do all the above you can for them. Not picking and choosing which you want to support. If you care about an issue enough you will do what is necessary.

 

[nVidiot_Whore]

Arbitrary? Really now? You care about gay rights, yet when I say stop buying gas because OPEC countries put them to death that is arbitrary? You are really just trying to win this argument with stupidity I see. Death is more final last time I checked, then not letting them marry each other...

It's nearly impossible to avoid gas consumption.

You have a decent point.. it's yet another reason to limit said consumption, but we are comparing a boycott that involves not eating a certain brand of chicken sandwich, to one that would involve a massive change of your entire lifestyle.

We also get most of our gas from Canada. Beyond that...yeah.. rampant human rights violations are yet another reason to do something about dependance on middle east oil.. of coruse many Americans are well aware of how the US government in the past helped create these problem governments, and have done plenty to "protest" that.

 

[Devolution]

Arbitrary? Really now? You care about gay rights, yet when I say stop buying gas because OPEC countries put them to death that is arbitrary? You are really just trying to win this argument with stupidity I see. Death is more final last time I checked, then not letting them marry each other...

Clearly I'm the stupid one here when you're arguing that people who boycott by not eating fried chicken at one establishment need to strip their life of everything remotely a problem lest they be hypocrites. Guess I'll just live like a bum to make you happy.

 

[faceless007]

Arbitrary? Really now? You care about gay rights, yet when I say stop buying gas because OPEC countries put them to death that is arbitrary? You are really just trying to win this argument with stupidity I see. Death is more final last time I checked, then not letting them marry each other...

How come you don't make this argument in every single thread devoted to any issue of social injustice anywhere in the world? Why just this one?

 

[LyleLanley]

Arbitrary? Really now? You care about gay rights, yet when I say stop buying gas because OPEC countries put them to death that is arbitrary? You are really just trying to win this argument with stupidity I see. Death is more final last time I checked, then not letting them marry each other...

I think you're missing the point, people would love to stop buying gas for a ton of ethical reasons but in many cases it's essentially impossible for them. It is in almost no way comparable to boycotting Chik-Fil-A.

No they are, as long as they are doing both then I have no problem with it, but if you continue to pick and choose on a whim then you are not solving anything. You are just trying make yourself feel better IMO. Truly standing up for gays would be to do all the above you can for them. Not picking and choosing which you want to support. If you care about an issue enough you will do what is necessary.

So to truly support gay rights I have to give up on gas? Got it.

 

[Count Dookkake]

How come you don't make this argument in every single thread devoted to any issue of social injustice anywhere in the world? Why just this one?

Hmm.

 

[FyreWulff]

Arbitrary? Really now? You care about gay rights, yet when I say stop buying gas because OPEC countries put them to death that is arbitrary? You are really just trying to win this argument with stupidity I see. Death is more final last time I checked, then not letting them marry each other....

Have you ever heard the concept of picking your battles?

Please tell me how you'd plan on surviving by never using anything that uses oil.

 

[Wallach]

No my argument is instead of spending your time arguing on a message board, since I assume you care a lot about homosexuals, why not go after the bigger problem?

The question being asked isn't "will you dedicate the entirety of your life to this cause", it is "will you stop eating at this establishment if you know the money is being used to the detriment of your community". You do not need to answer yes to both questions to do something positive, right? If we know this, we also know asking people not to do the latter because they won't do the former is going to cost us something positive. If you want to damn someone for not helping society, it is conflicting to also damn them for attempting to do something rather than do nothing, since doing nothing is the opposite of your impossible standard of doing everything.

You're basically wrestling a tiger made of cognitive dissonance. I imagine your brain looks something like Zangief's legs.

 

[njean777]

How come you don't make this argument in every single thread devoted to any issue of social injustice anywhere in the world? Why just this one?

Well that's the point isn't it? I don't come into every thread and crusade, because I already know something else I support is most likely worse then whatever people are crusading about in said thread.

 

[metalslimer]

I see the thread has returned to the all companies are evil you should boycott them all argument. I mean did someone seriously suggest boycotting oil the same as boycotting some fried chicken?

 

[Devolution]

Well that's the point isn't it? I don't come into every thread and crusade, because I already know something else I support is most likely worse then whatever people are crusading about in said thread.

Gays: your problems aren't bad enough for me to care but I'll go ahead and posit contradictory statements in the Chick Fil-A thread.

 

[daycru]

Fast food and being able to have heat in February are the same things.

 

[Keru_Shiri]

Well that's the point isn't it? I don't come into every thread and crusade, because I already know something else I support is most likely worse then whatever people are crusading about in said thread.

Nah, it's cool, I just expect people to be consistent, that's all.

 

[Devolution]

Fast food and being able to have heat in February are the same things.

Freeze to death or don't bother boycotting Chick Fil-A, hypocrite.

 

[Hitokage]

Or, you know, you could help apply political pressure to better regulate oil companies.

 

[Devolution]

Or, you know, you could help apply political pressure to better regulate oil companies.

But you're still using it.

 

[CHEEZMO™]

Why does the protestor have a penis and balls on his knees?

Because most political cartoonists cant draw for shit.

 

[goldenpp72]

Without gas i'd not be able to travel which would destroy my career and due to living in a somewhat remote area, destroy my ability to do anything and still live a reasonable life. Not eating at Chick Fil A means I eat somewhere else. Exactly the same.

 

[Hitokage]

But you're still using it.

Are we talking about solutions or spite here?

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

I bet njean's shoes are made in the good ole USA............

 

[daycru]

Without gas i'd not be able to travel which would destroy my career and due to living in a somewhat remote area, destroy my ability to do anything and still live a reasonable life. Not eating at Chick Fil A means I eat somewhere else. Exactly the same.

You could move to a city and take the bus.

But the buses run on gas too.

Move next door to work.

 

[faceless007]

Well that's the point isn't it? I don't come into every thread and crusade, because I already know something else I support is most likely worse then whatever people are crusading about in said thread.

So why aren't you fighting against whatever those worse things are?

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Obviously people can't give up gas but what about video games or computers?

 

[metalslimer]

Or, you know, you could help apply political pressure to better regulate oil companies.

Like doing what? What are some simple things we can do in our every day lives to apply pressure to multi billion behemoths?

Obviously people can't give up gas but what about video games or computers?

?

 

[Sai-kun]

Gays: your problems aren't bad enough for me to care but I'll go ahead and posit contradictory statements in the Chick Fil-A thread.

ughhh i thought we were friends, user "Devolution"!!!

Obviously people can't give up gas but what about video games or computers?

If Microsoft, or Sony, or Nintendo, or any gamedev company came straight out and said "We don't support marriage equality", I'd never buy another game or piece of hardware, easily.

 

[massoluk]

I know I'm going to hell for getting a chuckle out of this. But Spokesperson for Chick-Fil-A is dead. The timing is just... damn. It's like God is trolling.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/busin...kfila-spokesman-dies-20120727,0,6630683.story

 

[njean777]

Nah, it's cool, I just expect people to be consistent, that's all.

When have I been inconsistent? I still support chickfila and oil companies (see consistent). I was just pointing out everybodies hypocrisy. Never have I stated I refuse to eat chickfila or stop buying oil. But the people who do support gay rights should do these things so they can be consistent with their beliefs.

 

[Sai-kun]

I'm not a hypocrite. I'm an inconsistent bigot. Given the opportunity to not purchase gas, I would gladly take it. However, a majority of my life sort of revolves around the need for it, so...?

 

[metalslimer]

When have I been inconsistent? I still support chickfila and oil companies (see consistent). I was just pointing out everybodies hypocrisy. Never have I stated I refuse to eat chickfila or stop buying oil. But the people who do support gay rights should do these things so they can be consistent with their beliefs.

I'm sorry but this is a horrible stance to take. What alternative do we have to using gas at some point in our daily routines? People are boycotting CFA because there are millions of food choices.

 

[Hitokage]

Like doing what? What are some simple things we can do in our every day lives to apply pressure to multi billion behemoths?

See, this is where Government comes in. The average citizen doesn't have the weight or muscle to boss companies around, but average citizens are supposed to have an organization that works for them, answers to them, and goes after people they can't on their own.

 

[FyreWulff]

Fast food and being able to have heat in February are the same things.

Heating
Plastic Shopping Bags
Public Transit (uses gas)
Use any public road (asphalt)
Candles
Canned food
Jarred food
Anything powered by propane
Anything delivered by train or semi (basically everything in the United States)

versus CFA:

Don't eat at Chic Fil A

 

[Pillville]

Personally I feel everyone should be able to do as they wish, as long as what they're doing isn't impeding on another persons rights and freedoms. I honestly don't see why people are all against gay marriage it doesn't effect you at all, why bud in on other peoples lives? There's a picture that is pretty funny in a sarcastic humous way that talks about the reasons why people are against homosexual marriage.

Sadly, a lot of Americans think #8 is true.

 

[TylerD]

In other news, I will never be eating at CFA for the rest of my life.

Same here. It will be "my pleasure" to not give them my business any longer.