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I haven't posted in here for a super long time (except for a random post here or there) so I doubt many of you know/remember me. I'm just going to post this shit here...
I'm also starting to feel a lot better lately. I was going to kill myself at the end of the year (I had it all planned out), but after some thinking I've decided I'm not going to. I finally know what I want to do with my life.
I found a digital art program at my local College that I want to take. It'll help me learn photoshop, 3D modelling, animation, HTML, etc. I want to get into it really badly but I need a portfolio to apply.
For a bit of background info... I've been wanting to get into art for the longest time but due to an error by my high school I never got into grade 10 Honors Art. I had a 98% in grade 9 art and because of there error I was disqualified from ever taking art at their school. This, plus the fact that my dad didn't want to me to do anything art related at home (my only interests are playing piano and drawing) and threatened to kick me out if I went to an art program forced me to go to University in sciences.
I did that first year in sciences and wanted to kill myself on numerous occasions, so I've decided to follow my dream and get into art school. I decided if I'm going to not kill myself and live I might as well do something I want to do instead of live in a real life hell.
Okay, so back to the portfolio business. I need to make a 15 piece portfolio, but I don't know how to learn and get started. I think I posted this in a different thread and someone told me to go to the "45 days to draw better" thread. I'm haven't had a chance to check it out yet but I'm going to tomorrow. I'm going to pick up a few art tutorial books and art theory books too. I'm thinking of buying a computer to do art on with a wacom but that seems very expensive.
Also, if I take a year off to actually produce the portfolio I'd need to get a full time job to pay for health insurance. My dad's coverage only includes me if I am a full time student. The moment I don't go back for my 2nd year of university I wouldn't be covered. What's a good full time job that's available to someone like me? I've never wanted something as much as getting into this college program but every day it's seeming more unavailable for me, a person with zero art experience beyond grade 9 honors art, to get into. Can anyone offer some helpful advise?
Oh and sorry for this being a mess to read. I'm a little out of it and sick with a fever.
P.S. I saw the hottest guy on the bus today. Unf. I think I live in the most dense area of attractive guys in Canada. The only problem is that they're all straight. Never met a gay man here. *sigh*
I'm also starting to feel a lot better lately. I was going to kill myself at the end of the year (I had it all planned out), but after some thinking I've decided I'm not going to. I finally know what I want to do with my life.
I found a digital art program at my local College that I want to take. It'll help me learn photoshop, 3D modelling, animation, HTML, etc. I want to get into it really badly but I need a portfolio to apply.
For a bit of background info... I've been wanting to get into art for the longest time but due to an error by my high school I never got into grade 10 Honors Art. I had a 98% in grade 9 art and because of there error I was disqualified from ever taking art at their school. This, plus the fact that my dad didn't want to me to do anything art related at home (my only interests are playing piano and drawing) and threatened to kick me out if I went to an art program forced me to go to University in sciences.
I did that first year in sciences and wanted to kill myself on numerous occasions, so I've decided to follow my dream and get into art school. I decided if I'm going to not kill myself and live I might as well do something I want to do instead of live in a real life hell.
Okay, so back to the portfolio business. I need to make a 15 piece portfolio, but I don't know how to learn and get started. I think I posted this in a different thread and someone told me to go to the "45 days to draw better" thread. I'm haven't had a chance to check it out yet but I'm going to tomorrow. I'm going to pick up a few art tutorial books and art theory books too. I'm thinking of buying a computer to do art on with a wacom but that seems very expensive.
Also, if I take a year off to actually produce the portfolio I'd need to get a full time job to pay for health insurance. My dad's coverage only includes me if I am a full time student. The moment I don't go back for my 2nd year of university I wouldn't be covered. What's a good full time job that's available to someone like me? I've never wanted something as much as getting into this college program but every day it's seeming more unavailable for me, a person with zero art experience beyond grade 9 honors art, to get into. Can anyone offer some helpful advise?
Oh and sorry for this being a mess to read. I'm a little out of it and sick with a fever.
P.S. I saw the hottest guy on the bus today. Unf. I think I live in the most dense area of attractive guys in Canada. The only problem is that they're all straight. Never met a gay man here. *sigh*
You posted it here, on previous page
If you're just starting with drawing, I would recommend using traditional tools first. Start with the basics: pencil, ink, maybe paint or pastels. IMO going digital too soon (or even starting with digital drawing) might screw you up, because digital drawing has its own set of rules: it's both easier (you can undo mistakes, zoom in to draw details, don't have to deal with imperfections of paper and tools, can draw separate elements on different layers etc.) and harder (you have to learn the program to properly utilize it) at the same time.
You should concentrate on basics first: shapes, perspectives, shadows, proportions, anatomy (if you want to draw living things). To do that a simple sketchbook and a set of good pencils are good enough. Digital drawing can wait when you master that.
And a tip: if you're just starting, don't expect your every art to look good. And don't start every drawing thinking about putting it into a portfolio. That's the mistake I was making and thus every drawing took me hours to finish, because I tried my best to constantly improve it instead of moving on. Quick, imperfect sketches are good enough to practice things I mentioned before (shapes, shadows etc.).
Thanks for the response. This is really helpful. Where should I get tutorials on the basics? Should I just buy a bunch of books on art theory? And if so, which would you recommend? I'm really excited to start drawing but I'm also kind of worried about drawing people. I'm always pretty terrible with proportions for people and animals.You posted it here, on previous page
If you're just starting with drawing, I would recommend using traditional tools first. Start with the basics: pencil, ink, maybe paint or pastels. IMO going digital too soon (or even starting with digital drawing) might screw you up, because digital drawing has its own set of rules: it's both easier (you can undo mistakes, zoom in to draw details, don't have to deal with imperfections of paper and tools, can draw separate elements on different layers etc.) and harder (you have to learn the program to properly utilize it) at the same time.
You should concentrate on basics first: shapes, perspectives, shadows, proportions, anatomy (if you want to draw living things). To do that a simple sketchbook and a set of good pencils are good enough. Digital drawing can wait when you master that.
And a tip: if you're just starting, don't expect your every art to look good. And don't start every drawing thinking about putting it into a portfolio. That's the mistake I was making and thus every drawing took me hours to finish, because I tried my best to constantly improve it instead of moving on. Quick, imperfect sketches are good enough to practice things I mentioned before (shapes, shadows etc.).
P.S. The guy in your avatar is really cute.
RatskyWatsky
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I did my first year in sciences too. I realized I didn't like it very early, but my parents didn't want me to try art. It was kind of ridiculous, since they were the ones who got me into drawing and painting courses when I was kid. It was almost a year of discussion, but they finally understood and supported me. But well, my problem right now is getting a job and it seems impossible in this fucking country.
I would say that if you're starting any book will be helpful. Just start drawing, look around you for real life references. You can draw anything and every sketch you make will make you understand better shapes, lines, shadows. Also, you should show other people your drawings, getting a critique is one of the most helpful things if you want to get better.
It seems like you're worrying a lot, and at least for me, it's not the best condition to create something. Just relax, get some references, and start drawing.
Um, hi gay and bi gaf! I was wondering if you could help a guy who's pretty much just realised he's bi with some flirting and mushy stuff.
I'm really into <redacted>, another gaffer, and he's so charismatic. Every time he compliments me or says something nice I suddenly get all flustered and can't think of anything to respond with. We'd be on mumble playing a game and he'd call me a cutie, then I just struggle.
I've thought that maybe the reason is because there's never been another guy who's expressed these things to me (and me to him), so will this pass in time or should I really work on this? The last thing I want is for us to meet at the airport one day and have this play out:
"Hey there cutie."
/swag
"OH, THANKS!!!!"
I'm really into <redacted>, another gaffer, and he's so charismatic. Every time he compliments me or says something nice I suddenly get all flustered and can't think of anything to respond with. We'd be on mumble playing a game and he'd call me a cutie, then I just struggle.
I've thought that maybe the reason is because there's never been another guy who's expressed these things to me (and me to him), so will this pass in time or should I really work on this? The last thing I want is for us to meet at the airport one day and have this play out:
"Hey there cutie.
"/swag
"OH, THANKS!!!!"
I can't really recommend any book, because I haven't touch one in years and probably those that I used aren't even available in America
. I think someone posted few good recommendations in that "45 days to draw better" thread.And don't be afraid of drawing people. It's all about learning proportions and the oval action figures. When you get that, drawing people will be much easier.
Thanks.
That's my RPJ avatar 
Dead Prince
Banned
Um, hi gay and bi gaf! I was wondering if you could help a guy who's pretty much just realised he's bi with some flirting and mushy stuff.
I'm really into <redacted>, another gaffer, and he's so charismatic. Every time he compliments me or says something nice I suddenly get all flustered and can't think of anything to respond with. We'd be on mumble playing a game and he'd call me a cutie, then I just struggle.
I've thought that maybe the reason is because there's never been another guy who's expressed these things to me (and me to him), so will this pass in time or should I really work on this? The last thing I want is for us to meet at the airport one day and have this play out:
"Hey there cutie.
/swag
"OH, THANKS!!!!"
is he in it for your dick/sex bro.
Oh, well you're really cute.I can't really recommend any book, because I haven't touch one in years and probably those that I used aren't even available in America
And don't be afraid of drawing people. It's all about learning proportions and the oval action figures. When you get that, drawing people will be much easier.
Thanks.That's my RPJ avatar
Do think it'd be possible for someone like me to make a portfolio in a year? I plan to move onto 3D modelling once I have the basic down. I want the majority of my work to be 3D modelling.
And all the men are insanely hot.
Not just!
He's the best. Really encouraged me to be a lot more open (online at least), pushed me to do things I hadn't before, helped give me a reason to carry on.
Dang, he'll probably find this.
Mystic Theurge
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Huh. I had a similar plan.
I was going to pay off my 6000 dollars of student loan and then off myself. My brother leaves then so he wouldn't be there to see it all. All my family that loves me is gone. All my friends are gone. I don't have anyone in this world and I've only recently come to terms with it. That's why the change of plans.
Dead Prince
Banned
Not just!
He's the best. Really encouraged me to be a lot more open (online at least), pushed me to do things I hadn't before, helped give me a reason to carry on.
Dang, he'll probably find this.
orly. now i must know who it is. *COUGH* *COUGH*
MyAbsolution
Member
I dont know a thing about art, so unfortunately I can't give any advice on that.
So does you Father now support you going to work and building up a portfolio? Or does he not know?
Your dad sounds like he has some control issues (mine was like this for university too), what does you mother think? Would it be possible to move out.
Sorry if those questions are pointless but I don't your situation.
For jobs that involve health insurance... you might be shit outta luck. I'm not really aware of many minimum wage jobs in Canada that really offer any benefits (even full time), SOME grocery stores MIGHT (a couple did when I lived in BC, but full-time positions were impossible to acquire). Most cases I think you might need a higher-up job that could possibly require post-secondary education like in an Office or even through the government (janitorial or city worker might not need anything tho for partial benefits). In Ontario im thankful I have Trillium coverage from the government. Trillium allows a person like myself who isn't covered by private insurance to get some financial compensation for prescription meds I buy. Perhaps Manitoba has something similar? (Mind you I have no dental coverage but w.e I brush and floss all time)
Im glad you have decided against offing yourself. Ive been there before and been in the situation where my overbearing father wanted me to do what he wanted (become a doctor.../eyeroll). I've moved past that and am now doing what interests me
And living in a MUCH better location to be gay instead of wasting my life in rural BC.You say the best shit.
Dead Prince
Banned
let him be your daddy. i bet there's some awesome yoga sex like poses you two can get into.
what does he look like :X maybe i've seen him
He's maybe our height, like 5'7 or 5'8, thin-rimmed glasses, short brown/reddish hair, always wears a sleeveless shirt, and these ridiculously nice fitting pants or shorts.
I feel weird knowing all that, but he's one of 3 people that have been going to this yoga class regularly since the start of the year :lol
Prince: maybe I can get him to buy me fancy underwear!
I feel weird knowing all that, but he's one of 3 people that have been going to this yoga class regularly since the start of the year :lol
Prince: maybe I can get him to buy me fancy underwear!
Dead Prince
Banned
http://www.internationaljock.com
print out what you want and just toss it around your yoga mat. wink wink smile.
print out what you want and just toss it around your yoga mat. wink wink smile.
VICTORsaurio
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I'm ashamed
Well, my dad doesn't really care what I do anymore. His only requirement for me living at home is that I work full time or go to school. My mother would support me (she was an artist) but she passed away when I was 11. It's just me and my dad now that my brother is in the states.I dont know a thing about art, so unfortunately I can't give any advice on that.
So does you Father now support you going to work and building up a portfolio? Or does he not know?
Your dad sounds like he has some control issues (mine was like this for university too), what does you mother think? Would it be possible to move out.
Sorry if those questions are pointless but I don't your situation.
For jobs that involve health insurance... you might be shit outta luck. I'm not really aware of many minimum wage jobs in Canada that really offer any benefits (even full time), SOME grocery stores MIGHT (a couple did when I lived in BC, but full-time positions were impossible to acquire). Most cases I think you might need a higher-up job that could possibly require post-secondary education like in an Office or even through the government (janitorial or city worker might not need anything tho for partial benefits). In Ontario im thankful I have Trillium coverage from the government. Trillium allows a person like myself who isn't covered by private insurance to get some financial compensation for prescription meds I buy. Perhaps Manitoba has something similar? (Mind you I have no dental coverage but w.e I brush and floss all time)
Im glad you have decided against offing yourself. Ive been there before and been in the situation where my overbearing father wanted me to do what he wanted (become a doctor.../eyeroll). I've moved past that and am now doing what interests me
You say the best shit.
Once I finish schooling I'm thinking of moving to Toronto or the US. You said you moved and are happy; where is a nice location in Canada to live if you're gay?
The health insurance issue is kind of depressing. How much does it cost flat out? If I can't get any benefits I'll just pay for it (if that's possible). I don't know all that much about how health insurance works so if I'm only able to get it through work what should I do?
I plan to go into this art program, and after that go to the University of Manitoba to major in Computer Science. I'd love to work on games when I finish schooling.
You and I seem similar. My dad wanted me to be a dentist (hahahahahahahahaha) even though I didn't want to. Hopefully things get better.
Dead Prince
Banned
I'm ashamed
details bb.
orly. this might work better for me. thanks.
SpaceBridge
Member
I'm ashamed
Of ?
dragonlife
Member
Congrats on the sex.I'm ashamed
I do the same
same folks go when I head to the gym.website won't update to the diving competition.
I need this.VICTORsaurio
Member
Guy wrote me. Asking me how I've been and saying that he knows he shouldn't be texting me but he wanted to know how I'm doing.
I told him how I've been, he told me about he telling his boyfriend about "us". He told him that I confessed to him that I had feelings for him.
I vented a bit about how I felt, that probably his BF or anyone who finds out will think I'm a slut that wanted to break them up (which I guess is kind of true, except for the slut part). He keeps asking if he shouldn't write to me ever again or if we could talk in a few weeks. He obviously wants to stay in touch but I can't have him around, not for a good while. And I guess his BF wouldn't want me to be around anyway.
He said he's sorry for making me cry, feel sad, etc. And that's it. We haven't really done our "goodbyes" once again.
COME ON, JUST ADMIT YOU FUCKING WANT ME AND LEAVE YOUR BOYFRIEND ALREADY!!!!
I told him how I've been, he told me about he telling his boyfriend about "us". He told him that I confessed to him that I had feelings for him.
I vented a bit about how I felt, that probably his BF or anyone who finds out will think I'm a slut that wanted to break them up (which I guess is kind of true, except for the slut part). He keeps asking if he shouldn't write to me ever again or if we could talk in a few weeks. He obviously wants to stay in touch but I can't have him around, not for a good while. And I guess his BF wouldn't want me to be around anyway.
He said he's sorry for making me cry, feel sad, etc. And that's it. We haven't really done our "goodbyes" once again.
I really feel for you, I was there just a few months ago, at this point I've realized it is really overrated and not at all what you expect, but I know we still need to experience it anyway, and I know for sure that I wouldn't be able to convince my few-months-younger self to not do what he did or that it is indeed overrated and that its ok to be alone for a time. Best of luck for you, you will find someone, everyone does, just be prepared, most likely it won't be like you imagine.
Glad to hear you have decided against attempting suicide. I really don't know much about art at all, but if you're considering the possibility of moving to the US, California is home to some of the country's (if not the world's) best programs for art, animation, and the like. Plus, there are plenty of good-looking guys that are gay here too! Not sure how feasible it would be to live here on your own while working/paying for school, but definitely consider it. I'm assuming you have a pretty healthy interest in gaming judging by your presence here, but California is home to a huge number of game studios too, particularly in the SF Bay Area (I live here, if you want more info) and Los Angeles Greater Area.
MyAbsolution
Member
Well at least hes not forcing you to take sciences. Sorry about your mother.
I meant a place thats not rural, namely a bigger city. Toronto or Vancouver are good examples (although i cant stand Van weather). Im a born-raised small town guy and was lonely being the only gay person for miles (or known gay person, since most dudes were in closet). There also weren't many colleges or programs to enroll in; My mom retired and moved out to Ontario so I joined her and now I live near Toronto, am enrolled in college, and probably have plenty more chances to meet a nice fellow
I assumed you were rural since you said there were so many cute straight guys and youve never met a gay man. Your plan for U of M sounds great as im sure there are plenty of people to meet there. You'll meet some people, it'll just take some time.Health insurance - It is depressing, but a sad reality that most employers dont cover jack shit (especially if your a young adult). My trillium is free, im low-income and pay a reasonable amount of my basically non-existent student income toward prescriptions drugs (anti-depressants) so i am eligible. What happens is I get a gov't check in the mail every month or so (like those GST/HST rebate checks if you get those?). There should be some plans where you can flat out pay monthly and they cover most things. However, I have never been on one so I can't begin to know the answers as to which or how much, sorry.
Yes some Dads just dont know when the fuck to back off and thankfully my dad has changed drastically, but back then he was a monster. He had a plan for each of his three kids: My sister was to become a nurse, my brother a lawyer (she is a nurse, he is becoming a lawyer) and the youngest little shit was to become a Doctor (me). And when it came time to doing sciences and math I sucked hardcore and got mediocre grades, mind you I tried my ass off and went to tutoring 3 times a week but it was never good enough for him and I was a lame duck for not being as smart as he was
He even shoved me out into university which I promptly dropped out of.I'm ashamed
You seriously need to stop talking to him. Can't you just block his number? Otherwise you're going to drive yourself crazy thinking you have a shot at something that's clearly not there.
You guys make the sciences sound like a death sentence. :/
MyAbsolution
Member
Well I took the sciences again recently out of my own free will. I'm going into a Vet Technician program so I need some science but nothing major like a Doctor would need. And its not 8 years of it
Gaynerds/gayeeks =
GOOOOOO SCIENCE!
First of all, guy is playing you. He's loving the feeling of being wanted. "I have a boyfriend and I shouldn't text you... but... HIIIII!" C'MON!
Second of all, STOP! Don't reply, don't text back, don't stalk him, delete him from everything, make him a zero to the left (MATH YAY!).
Think it would be considered rude? Well, too bad. You are more important and this is clearly affecting you. Have some willpower and some self-respect!
What good will it come from having him around? Apparently nothing but you being considered a slut and he would just be the innocent guy that made nothing wrong but being nice! "Oh... should I not write you anymore?
Can we talk? I don't want to make you cry but I still want to talk with you cause I know you have feelings for me".Again... C'MON!. What sane/correct/mature person would think: "If he/she has feelings for me and I can't/don't want to correspond them at the moment, we should totally keep this interaction going. It's the best for him/her".
If he likes you enough to break his relationship (BIG IF), well... let HIM take all the weight of his actions first. Don't step into drama that you shouldn't be seeking!
What I just wrote probably sounds harsh, but sometimes harsh is what we need!*
*And this has been my monthly gay thread harangue! See you next month!
If or when you decide to make the jump to using a tablet, I would suggest considering Monoprice's line. Same functionality as Wacom's tablets at 1/3rd of the cost, perfect for a beginner. Just bought one recently and I'm very happy with it.
dragonlife
Member
Oh, wow, thanks for this. I may look into one of those in the future, myself.
Thank you for all the advice.
I almost felt bad for picking one up that cheap. The joys of brand conditioning.
Thank you for all the advice.
No worries, keep us posted eh?
Edit: one last, last thing before I forget. When you eventually get to the stage of looking to display your portfolio art, Pina Zangaro makes some fantastic presentation books. Admittedly a bit on the pricey side (depending on your needs and where you look) but the quality and durability is well worth the investment. Bought a red acrylic book a few years ago now and haven't looked back.
You also won't have the same heavy load of debt that most docs graduate with.Well I took the sciences again recently out of my own free will. I'm going into a Vet Technician program so I need some science but nothing major like a Doctor would need. And its not 8 years of it
But seriously.. I can empathize. Dad wanted me to be an engineer, and I got offered a hefty engineering scholarship, so I started in chemical engineering. After the first year, I was getting As & Bs, but I was bored to tears. But I was loooving my political science classes; PolySci was going to be my minor.
(weird coincidence time! my partner's little brother was in one of the poly sci classes I was taking. I thought his bro was quite, quite cute, and looked at him in class all the time. I didn't meet my partner until several months later, and when he introduced me to his brother later on, it was quite funny, haha!)
The university would only pay for my scholarship if I kept an engineering major course load, so I took the bare, bare minimum of engineering classes required and loaded-up on polysci classes until I could proceed no further. Then, I switched and started taking-on loans to finish the last 1.5 years. Pretty damn devious.
Dad wasn't thrilled, but he understood. He'd be fine as long as I could support myself. I graduated and found that the only places hiring were fast food/retail management, and government (mind you, this was during the recession/slowdown of 2000, when lots of internet startups were failing). After three years of government work, I finally decided on a two-year radiology program so that I could do CT/MRI for a living. It's proven to be the best move I've ever professionally made.
From now on, I'll be taking classes for fun and personal development. Welding, horticulture, master gardener, herbal medicine, and urban planning/design are all on my wish list for the future. I'd love to get my PhD in urban planning someday; city design and logistics is so fascinating to me!
Sorry for the life story; I'm very "talkative" tonight for some reason. Vet tech school sounds like a very, very solid move. It takes a special person with a big heart to handle that kind of work, and a good vet tech is worth his/her weight in gold. Congrats!
Alright, well I'm going to talk to an advisor at the college to ask what they look for in a portfolio. Hopefully it isn't something super crazy. I'm also going to get a hair cut. What's a sexy hair cut? Post sexy pics people!
Also, real pic July has shown me that people in GayGAF are hot as hell. ;P
I would move to the US but I'm not sure how to even get started. Plus, education where I live is significantly cheaper than anything in the US. I might move after education because I want to get into game development (why I'm getting into 3D modeling/animation and computer science). I'm just kind of worried about my father. He'd be getting old once my education is over and I'm worried he'll be lonely. My brother is moving to the states permanently after finishing school next spring (California ironically) so my dad will be living here alone and he has no friends. As much as he hates me (and I dislike him) I'm not such a cold hearted asshole where I can leave him there alone waiting to die.
I understand what you are saying but I've been alone for a few decades so a little relationship drama would be nice even if just that.
I had no idea this kind of thing exists.
That sounds illegal as hell since it can determine your employment.
xxczx
Member
It's not illegal but they can't make you answer. Like when they ask you your religion, sex, race, age, etc.
Bel Marduk
Banned
Actually, that's legal in most U.S. states.. seems incredibly fucked up but there are little to no legal protections for us here.
Bel Marduk
Banned
Alright, well I'm going to talk to an advisor at the college to ask what they look for in a portfolio. Hopefully it isn't something super crazy. I'm also going to get a hair cut. What's a sexy hair cut? Post sexy pics people!
Also, real pic July has shown me that people in GayGAF are hot as hell. ;P
I would move to the US but I'm not sure how to even get started. Plus, education where I live is significantly cheaper than anything in the US. I might move after education because I want to get into game development (why I'm getting into 3D modeling/animation and computer science). I'm just kind of worried about my father. He'd be getting old once my education is over and I'm worried he'll be lonely. My brother is moving to the states permanently after finishing school next spring (California ironically) so my dad will be living here alone and he has no friends. As much as he hates me (and I dislike him) I'm not such a cold hearted asshole where I can leave him there alone waiting to die.
Noooo... your hair looks fine the way it is. I know its july/august but it will get colder and most always guys look better with long hair. Hell, I'm in Florida and mine is almost to my shoulders.
I don't know anything about 3d modeling, but for the drawing, if you draw a lot (and it looks you are passionate about that), then why not? When we were in high school, a friend of mine decided to study architecture. To do so, she had to pass an entrance drawing exam on the university. She started her drawing lessons on summer, before the last year of high school, and of course she passed
That's strange. I can understand asking about religion, because there are religious practices that could affect your job (e.g. Shabbat for Jews). But why would anybody want to know your sexual orientation? It's not like you will be flirting with clients (right?).
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