You missed the part of my post where it was satire.
Papa Johns CEO wants to raise Pizza prices in order to offset Obamacare costs
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You missed the part of my post where it was satire.
Shin Johnpv
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They should instead focus on not making such shitty crap that they have the balls to call pizza.
Keru_Shiri
Member
Perhaps in a world without Dominos. Sunk my teeth into a Steak and Provolone pizza and never looked back. Easier on the wallet to boot.
I don't mind paying a bit more for better tasting Pizza.
Heck, if you care that much about price, you might as well get the $3 frozen pizzas at supermarkets.
Living in Buffalo and ordering pizza from a chain should be a crime!!
Hobbestetrician
Member
And if they bite, they will be helping pay for the healthcare of the employees, indirectly supporting Obamacare!
This will make it all the easier to continue to never eat Papa John's pizza.
Yeah, we will not even sink that low.
If you need to ask....
This is all you need to know. Wouldn't be surprised if the campaign asked him to publicly speak about it.
evilromero
Member
Hell, I'm sick of everyone vocalizing their political agenda. Even on this board it makes grown men act like children.
AstroNut325
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I haven't bought Papa John's pizza in many years. No big deal to me. Several local pizza places are much much better.
If a 15 cent increase per product on a $10 and up product means you have to lay people off, then I think you're doing business pretty badly.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Yeah, I've been doing PJ with some frequency lately because they give half-off deals whenever the Minnesota Twins win a game, but now I think I'm going straight Dominoes.
Good to know. We barely eat PJs nowadays, and now the CEO just made eating at Dominoes an easier decision.
It would be awesome to find out which side Christians in America fall on.
It would be awesome to find out which side Christians in America fall on.
Haint
Member
Their pizza is literally Ketchup Cardboard, no idea how they're business hasn't been tanking already. They're also expensive as fuck compared to Domino's seemingly perpetual $5.99 medium deal--who's new recipe is objectively superior to Papa John's bland garbage anyways. That said, Papa Murphy's is the best chain pizza. Veggie D'lite is the shit.
-COOLIO-
The Everyman
bingo, its impossible to complain about this without sounding like a dick
Steve Youngblood
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It goes along with the territory that increased costs will most likely be passed onto the customer, as charging the customer is the only way to generate revenue for them at all. However, this truth is something that is probably best left is an implicit truth. Suggesting that shareholder interests trump that of the customers -- regardless of whether or not it's true -- strikes me as bad PR.
And honestly, the entire discussion just seems stupid. It's grandstanding over 11 cents a pizza. He would have been better off not attempting to do due diligence on the numbers and leaving it at "this will negatively affect our bottom line."
Death Dealer
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The first slice of a Papa John's pizza is ok. But each successive piece tastes worse. It's got that fast food thing going.
I prefer Little Caesers for my cheap pizza fix.
I prefer Little Caesers for my cheap pizza fix.
This
MisterNoisy
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I'd like to thank Mr. Schnatter for giving me another reason (beyond the cloying tomato-colored syrup he has the gall to call pizza sauce) to never order another PJ pizza again. It's been years, anyway.
Anyone that has a problem with $.20 on a $10 pie to provide healthcare for the people that are making that pie can get bent.
Anyone that has a problem with $.20 on a $10 pie to provide healthcare for the people that are making that pie can get bent.
If you want cheap pizza get a frozen one for 3 bucks.
Price is what really matters when it comes to pizza, quality can take a back seat.
Not a backseat, but you still need to find a balance in quality, time, and price. My local Papa Johns (at least) has great management and, thus, great pizzas that don't cost me $20* a pie (which is what my local Mellow Mushroom charges for a something I consider less than appetizing). On the other hand, those $3 frozen pizzas don't hit the spot (at all).
Don't get me wrong though, my foot would be the first through the door of Ma and Pa's should one ever open up here. Until then Papa John's strikes the right balance of quality and price and, until now, was my number one go to for pizza.
StealthGoblin
Banned
What a moron.
Also, I have no idea why people think pizzas are pies. By modern standards anyway, its not a pie, despite its origins.
Also, I have no idea why people think pizzas are pies. By modern standards anyway, its not a pie, despite its origins.
metalslimer
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Dominoes is better
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
I'm just amazed so many people can stomach Domino's.
jadedm17
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As a huge consumer of Papa Johns pizzas... so?
Between the free superbowl pizza, other deals and accumlated points, I bought 3 large pizzas and 3 garlic breadsticks for roughly $25 with tip(s).
The offer so many free, half off, 3 for 10, etc. deals that I don't see the problem.
Plus, they are a business, things just rise. Period.
Between the free superbowl pizza, other deals and accumlated points, I bought 3 large pizzas and 3 garlic breadsticks for roughly $25 with tip(s).
The offer so many free, half off, 3 for 10, etc. deals that I don't see the problem.
Plus, they are a business, things just rise. Period.
I'll third this notion.
Also, remember this is from the company with a 41.51% profit margin
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Wow.
underkanter
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It's not upsetting that a 15 cent increase will give his employees benefits, but it is upsetting that he's threatening a price increase if he is forced to do something he already should of been doing.
*spits pizza out* omg!
AdventureMike
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Like many others here, I couldn't care less about paying an extra quarter a pizza. For what it's going for? Absolutely would do it!
I just don't like his chest beating about how he's passing it along to the customers. I'm not naive, I know that every corporation does it, but you don't need to smear it in our faces on the way out the door. It just comes off so incredibly callous and such. I get enough of it when I get to watch gas prices rising to line someone's pockets, but I don't want to see political shit when I'm ordering a pizza.
I just don't like his chest beating about how he's passing it along to the customers. I'm not naive, I know that every corporation does it, but you don't need to smear it in our faces on the way out the door. It just comes off so incredibly callous and such. I get enough of it when I get to watch gas prices rising to line someone's pockets, but I don't want to see political shit when I'm ordering a pizza.
Fenderputty
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Guys guys ... seriously ... repeal Obamacare or risk having two less pepperonis on each pizza. I mean ... two whole pepperoni.
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The Everyman
im totally fine with him upping his prices if he wants to. i wouldn't actually fault him for it. he's a dick for not wanting too though, since its for his underpaid employees healthcare.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Pizza-fascists.
People will just get some from Pizzahut or Domino's instead then.
People will just get some from Pizzahut or Domino's instead then.
for just 15 cents a day you could feed a hungry child in africa, or give a poor college kid health care, make the call today
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Well, gee, guess I have no choice but to never, ever, fucking eat there again.
Stuff your 14 cents directly up your cheesehole, Papa John!
Stuff your 14 cents directly up your cheesehole, Papa John!
planar1280
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Higher Prices
Better Healthcare
Papa Johns
Better Healthcare
Papa Johns
They've gotten much better over the last few years. Not to mention their topping customization options far outclass Papa John's, as you can actually choose the base sauce you want on your pizzas.
MisterNoisy
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What gets me is that he's inadvertently advertising for the new healthcare system:
Schnatter said:
Schnatter said:
Every cost is ultimately paid by consumers, unless they're selling at a loss. Consumers are their only source of revenue, so who else could possibly pay for it?
These guys aren't a monopoly. If you think that an additional $0.10 per pizza makes their stuff too expensive, buy from someone else. Though, I can't see how such a small change would be likely to have much of an impact.
Steve Youngblood
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To be fair, I'm sure that the point of putting this out there is not to just make it strictly about the impact that it will have on Papa John's specifically in as much as he was using his own business as an example to make a larger point. Unfortunately, the underlying message loses some of its impact when the cost is so little, and the manner in which he matter-of-factly threatens that the cost must be passed on to us strikes me as simultaneously unsavvy and manipulative.
But it could just be that I'm not really the target for this rhetoric. I'm sure there's someone out there that's fired up about this being yet another example of why Obama must be stopped.
Tried Papa John's for the first time several months ago. Worst pizza I've had in a very long time and I'm pretty sure it caused my throat to swell up. Terrible and expensive. They should worry more about fixing their pizza instead of "passing on the costs of Obamacare" to consumers. Ridiculous. 20 more cents please!
Edit: Part of me is thinking that this is a poorly received joke of some sort.
Edit: Part of me is thinking that this is a poorly received joke of some sort.
Visualante2
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More like offset the tax cuts he'd be getting under Romney. Amirite?
We could all go make out inside a Papa John's! I doubt anyone would notice, because it is not a restaurant so much as a cardboard delivery service.
There is nothing inherently wrong with wanting to raise costs to cover healthcare for the workers.
The problem lies with the ridiculous statement bringing in politics and then proceeding to whine and moan about it as if these workers are too lowly to deserve any form of healthcare. That's what has people upset.
almostheathen
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Mmm Westshore Pizza.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Most business pass on tax increases to their customers at least in part, especially if said tax increase reduces their profit enough to make doing business not as worth the effort.
You're gonna get mad at him that he's fully disclosing what he's gonna do, just like a lot of other businesses? Granted, he could have made his commentary a little less obviously partisan, but it's not like he's the only business owner who's gonna do this.
You're gonna get mad at him that he's fully disclosing what he's gonna do, just like a lot of other businesses? Granted, he could have made his commentary a little less obviously partisan, but it's not like he's the only business owner who's gonna do this.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Having a public tantrum about Obama's policies...he's obviously gunning for that Chick Fil A crowd and their money.
What surprises me is how few people here eat local pizza. Fucking digiorno's frozen pizza is closer to a real slice than anything from Papa Johns.
What surprises me is how few people here eat local pizza. Fucking digiorno's frozen pizza is closer to a real slice than anything from Papa Johns.
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