Alberta wants to separate from Canada

Idleyes said:
Red States:"Alright city slickers, no more water, no more food, no more gas. Let's see how you survive now!"
California:"Yo NY! I just bagged a desalination plant on Temu. Free shipping!"
New York: "I Imported bagels from Montreal. Better than ours, honestly."
Washington (state):"I traded three lattes for a hydroelectric deal with Canada. Power's back, baby."
Texas:"Uh… guys? We just invaded Panama. We own the Canal now!"
Florida:"Good shit. I'll send a postcard after I cruise through it next week."
Massachusetts: "We're growing kale in old Dunkin' Donuts now. Zero miles farm‑to‑table."
Oregon:"We put a toll on I‑5. Blue states: use boats."
California: "LOL there's literally a port in my backyard. You thought we needed your road?"
Illinois:"Also, all your young people just moved here for jobs. Thanks for the free labor market!"
Colorado:"Wait, why am I in this group? I was just skiing."
Red States:"…you weren't supposed to adapt this fast."
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Blue city: "Wow, cholera really made a come-back now that we are using grey water for everything and can't get anything fresh. Turns out there is a good reason why folks went to grocery stores every 2 days instead of growing veggies off their balconies, that shit doesn't actually work 'cause it takes MONTHS for stuff to grow!!!! Not to mention desalination needs a TON of power and since we got rid of all the nuke plants we have to spend 8 hours a day at the communal human powered fly wheel just to get enough charge to fire it up for 2 hours a week. Just gotta dodge the cannibal gangs on my way there."

Red State: "Notice how peaceful it is? Tomorrow we are all gonna get together to raise a new barn for Jeb. Might bag myself a deer on the hike back. With all the lawyers starving in them there cities we can actually get a lot done now. Portioning up all the mass agriculture farmland into family plots with proper crop rotation and livestock management so we don't need to ship basics everywhere. Made a nice deal with Mexico for their farm labor to come up just for the harvest season and help us out. Plenty of gas with all those Texas refineries as well."
 
It's meant to be hilarious, but I guess some folks are taking it a little too seriously.
If there ever were an actual Blue‑state/Red‑state split, the global markets would implode long before anyone got to play - who grows the avocados.
 
jason10mm said:
Blue city: "Wow, cholera really made a come-back now that we are using grey water for everything and can't get anything fresh. Turns out there is a good reason why folks went to grocery stores every 2 days instead of growing veggies off their balconies, that shit doesn't actually work 'cause it takes MONTHS for stuff to grow!!!! Not to mention desalination needs a TON of power and since we got rid of all the nuke plants we have to spend 8 hours a day at the communal human powered fly wheel just to get enough charge to fire it up for 2 hours a week. Just gotta dodge the cannibal gangs on my way there."

Red State: "Notice how peaceful it is? Tomorrow we are all gonna get together to raise a new barn for Jeb. Might bag myself a deer on the hike back. With all the lawyers starving in them there cities we can actually get a lot done now. Portioning up all the mass agriculture farmland into family plots with proper crop rotation and livestock management so we don't need to ship basics everywhere. Made a nice deal with Mexico for their farm labor to come up just for the harvest season and help us out. Plenty of gas with all those Texas refineries as well."
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Blue State: "Hold up, you're bragging about migrant farm labor now? Thought y'all built a whole wall over that."
Red State: "Well… yeah, but this is seasonal migrant labor. Totally different."
Florida: "So the apocalypse plan is just… undocumented farmhands with extra steps? Where do I sign?"
California: "Thanks for admitting our immigrants keep everyone fed."
Texas: "…don't tell Trump."
 
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Idleyes said:
Blue State: "Hold up, you're bragging about migrant farm labor now? Thought y'all built a whole wall over that."
Red State: "Well… yeah, but this is seasonal migrant labor. Totally different."
Florida: "So the apocalypse plan is just… undocumented farmhands with extra steps? Where do I sign?"
California: "Thanks for admitting our immigrants keep everyone fed."
Texas: "…don't tell Trump."
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I think you would be SHOCKED at how actual working folk view getting help that comes in, does a job that needs doing for a fair wage, and goes back home.

When AI comes in and makes all them city folk unemployed, somehow I doubt it will replace many harvesters, though I suppose in time it might.
 
The truth is those farm workers live a rough life. It's long hours in brutal heat for low pay, no benefits, and constant uncertainty about visas or immigration status (especially now). A lot of them send money home, but very few come out of it rich, most just hope to retire somewhere quieter than the fields they spent their lives in.
 
AJUMP23 said:
Imagine getting a 3rd country in NA and having to redo all the maps.
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J jason10mm Just want to say thanks for being a good sport. That was a fun back and forth, you had me cracking up with the Red State's going the self sustainable route, taking over the Canal and maintaining relations with immigrant workers all while throwing shade at them thin skinned, city slickers. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
Idleyes said:
J jason10mm Just want to say thanks for being a good sport. That was a fun back and forth, you had me cracking up with the Red State's going the self sustainable route, taking over the Canal and maintaining relations with immigrant workers all while throwing shade at them thin skinned, city slickers. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
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I'm pretty sure if Texas refloated the USS Texas battleship from WW1 they would immediately become the worlds 5th most powerful Navy :P

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I do think we are approaching an era where we see some fracturing of nations Both from an increasing ideological divide and constant subversive outside attack by authoritarian regimes. Recent large scale immigration from less culturally aligned areas is gonna be a stressor as well.

Hope we weather the AI-pocalypse well. If we can build enough nuke plants maybe we can all live in a free digital utopia. Blue pill blue pill!!!!


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just don't look for the bead of sweat!

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Idleyes said:
Red States:"Alright city slickers, no more water, no more food, no more gas. Let's see how you survive now!"
California:"Yo NY! I just bagged a desalination plant on Temu. Free shipping!"
New York: "I Imported bagels from Montreal. Better than ours, honestly."
Washington (state):"I traded three lattes for a hydroelectric deal with Canada. Power's back, baby."
Texas:"Uh… guys? We just invaded Panama. We own the Canal now!"
Florida:"Good shit. I'll send a postcard after I cruise through it next week."
Massachusetts: "We're growing kale in old Dunkin' Donuts now. Zero miles farm‑to‑table."
Oregon:"We put a toll on I‑5. Blue states: use boats."
California: "LOL there's literally a port in my backyard. You thought we needed your road?"
Illinois:"Also, all your young people just moved here for jobs. Thanks for the free labor market!"
Colorado:"Wait, why am I in this group? I was just skiing."
Red States:"…you weren't supposed to adapt this fast."
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Well I'm cringing.
 
Ontario is the absolute biggest shithole in Canada, just putting it out there.

Canada used to be a great country until it wasn't. I can understand why Quebec and now Alberta want to fuck off. There's nothing more hilarious than people spending 10 years being angry at the Liberal government and demanding a change…..only to vote in the Liberal government and nothing has changed. Housing prices are still insane. Rental prices are still insane. Immigration is still out of control. Unemployment is going up. Way to go, you fucking morons.
 
Beretta said:
Ontario is the absolute biggest shithole in Canada, just putting it out there.

Canada used to be a great country until it wasn't. I can understand why Quebec and now Alberta want to fuck off. There's nothing more hilarious than people spending 10 years being angry at the Liberal government and demanding a change…..only to vote in the Liberal government and nothing has changed. Housing prices are still insane. Rental prices are still insane. Immigration is still out of control. Unemployment is going up. Way to go, you fucking morons.
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You see, I don't agree at all.

First of all, Alberta doesn't want to leave. Some folks do, but that's not even close to everyone.

Canada is still a great Country. It's not perfect, agreed, it's far from it, but no where is. It's got loads of warts and issues but it also has loads of great things. Ontario also is far from a shithill. Let's be sure to look around and it's clear far better than most places.

All of those issues are serious and need to be addressed but they also take time. I absolutely agree. However, A bunch of it wasn't their fault either and let's not act like it would have changed overnight under a cpc gov either. Some, for sure, but not as much as folks think.

Everyone needs to relax a bit.
 
DaleinCalgary said:
This is crap, there is no mass movement towards separation. Just a limited number of people
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Canadians are growing increasingly tired of the stagnation. The country is slowly dying and the people are looking for a real solution



In all honesty, Canada becoming the 51st state of the US would dramatically improve the lives of Canadians
 
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Don't you guys have oil your exporting in Alberta? Also timber as well? I figured between these 2 things you guys would be rocking.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
Canadians are growing increasingly tired of the stagnation. The country is slowly dying and the people are looking for a real solution



In all honesty, Canada becoming the 51st state of the US would dramatically improve the lives of Canadians
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I'm going to take a wild stab at why.

A lot of people are maxed out paying bills and mortgages because home prices skyrocketed the past 15 years. So people cant spend and companies cant make money. Banks are happy. And so are all the big box retailers raking it in as people still need to buy staples. But those arent innovative kinds of companies or industries.

The gov is also a major tax grabby kind of gov. But nobody knows where the hell all these juicy taxes go, except maybe paying for overpaid lazy workers with giant pensions. These people should be kicked to the curb and work in the private sector to drive the economy. Not be a zero valued added paper pusher in a gov office.

Right off the bat, home prices are high since city govs limit home construction due to environmental policies and also add in crazy permit fees like $100k for each shitty condo built (whatever the fee is). That gets passed down to people so new homes are priced high right off the blueprint plans. And because supply is limited, you cant get as many good immigrants here to add to the pot to drive the economy. And because people are maxed out on bills, they definitely arent going to have more babies to naturally drive up the population.

Those are my overarching theories. Maybe I'm dead wrong though.
 
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Durien said:
Don't you guys have oil your exporting in Alberta? Also timber as well? I figured between these 2 things you guys would be rocking.
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The country has so much natural resources, the amount of money and taxes that can be made for companies and gov is absurd. That's why on the Toronto Stock Exchange, resource companies are a big weighting. So are banks and the key retailers are too. Canada's banking and retailer sectors are heavily skewed to a small number of companies.

Problem is resources and agriculture kinds of economies may be money generators, but not really innovators. It's basically like selling shitloads of apples in giant farms. The biggest driving sectors of growth and high prices are typically tech and anything medial/healthcare/pharma related. And Canada has hardly any big companies in those sectors. Not only are those huge value added kinds of sectors, but the type of person you get working in these companies will skew to smart people. So what do smart people do? They typically have good homes and smart families. And the cycle of STEM interest and innovation continues.
 
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A lot of western Canada don't have a desire to be Canadian I personally been to Saskatchewan and their nature is more American (trucks, policies, guns etc.)
 
Trogdor1123 said:
You see, I don't agree at all.

First of all, Alberta doesn't want to leave. Some folks do, but that's not even close to everyone.

Canada is still a great Country. It's not perfect, agreed, it's far from it, but no where is. It's got loads of warts and issues but it also has loads of great things. Ontario also is far from a shithill. Let's be sure to look around and it's clear far better than most places.

All of those issues are serious and need to be addressed but they also take time. I absolutely agree. However, A bunch of it wasn't their fault either and let's not act like it would have changed overnight under a cpc gov either. Some, for sure, but not as much as folks think.

Everyone needs to relax a bit.
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I didn't say all wanted to, i generalized. I can understand why any would want to leave, though.

As for Ontario, if we want to get specific by area, the GTA is a shit hole. If you start going North Ontario or Southwestern Ontario, sure, it gets better, but I refuse to believe anyone can hear the words Brampton and Hamilton alone and not feel like they didn't just contract a disease. Mississauga has also gone downhill.

Malton, Rexdale, Scarborough, Oshawa, Welland, Sudbury, Pembroke, Bancroft…granted, I haven't been to some of these places in a long time so I've no idea if they have changed at all. I have a friend who lives in Oshawa and another who is from North Bay. My North Bay friend has family who still live there and it has apparently become a shit hole.

Are there nice sections within these areas? Sure there are, however there are a lot of areas that used to be great that have since become absolute dumps, druggies walking around, high crime, etc. It really is a shame.

10 years of Trudeau has pissed all over Canada.
 
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