It's a great time over there for them. They get to continue a political agenda while simultaneously getting a free chance to price hike.
Papa Johns CEO wants to raise Pizza prices in order to offset Obamacare costs
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It's a great time over there for them. They get to continue a political agenda while simultaneously getting a free chance to price hike.
Can you substantiate this? Have these companies demonstrated their method of determining the net cost impact to them due solely to legislation?
Beerman462
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If anything this just highlights how affordable healthcare can be. People don't give a fuck if there once a week/month pizza habit costs an extra ¢15. Greedy ass shareholders care about ¢15 x a million pizzas. Also I like how its officially Obamacare now.
Omegasquash
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Haven't eaten Papa John's in about 8 years (since I moved to MA). There are enough local shops up here to keep me right...and good on it. Smaller shops have better pizza anyway.
All kidding aside. Unless that statement is completely political, and Papa John's happens to be a super right wing pizza maker, they must be actually concerned with the amount of money this plan will cost them.
And if we are trying to stimulate the economy, and a major corporation will have to raise prices due to government requierments... that may not be so good for any of us. The consumer does not have the money, the company is charging more, I do not see how it works out for anyone.
And if we are trying to stimulate the economy, and a major corporation will have to raise prices due to government requierments... that may not be so good for any of us. The consumer does not have the money, the company is charging more, I do not see how it works out for anyone.
So agree, keep religion and politics out of food.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bhfuioyI5Q *video of Romney at papa johns
Something tells me he might have some 'agenda' hehe
Something tells me he might have some 'agenda' hehe
20 cents more for pizza vs people having more affordable access to healthcare, more people with healthcare insurance should mean lower premiums for everyone, no?
Omegasquash
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That's how it's referred to in the health care industry now too. What I hope happens is that everyone looks back on it and the association is nothing but positive across the board. I love calling it Obamacare. Keeps it fresh in my mind that we have a forward thinking president.
MisterNoisy
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Dude. It's $.20 per order. I tip the fucking driver twenty times that amount.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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You're probably right about this. Those people will be roped in by this "show".
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If I ate PJ's pizza they would have lost a customer today. Is it that hard to remain apolitical as a.... fast food restaurant CEO? I guess the ultimate goal of these people is to have businesses and their clientelle everywhere as polarized as our politics. Rednecks at PJ's! Libs at Taco Bell!
If I ate PJ's pizza they would have lost a customer today. Is it that hard to remain apolitical as a.... fast food restaurant CEO? I guess the ultimate goal of these people is to have businesses and their clientelle everywhere as polarized as our politics. Rednecks at PJ's! Libs at Taco Bell!
Wolfe
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That's saying a lot!
no kidding. At least say Digorno, which is much better then Papa Johns
I H8 Memes
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This has nothing to do with insurance costs going up and everything to do with personal/capital gains taxes on the rich that are going to go up when Obama is reelected.
This is kind of detestable. Also, it's only $.20 more than the standard price. How is that worse for the consumer? You'd see worse with inflation and with how the economy was going to advance; if we didn't retool a national medical plan the entire economy would have eventually crippled itself.
No joke, there's just too much overflow from debt and loans because of astronomical medical bills and inane regulations.
This guy just seems to be looking out for himself, because, let's face it-- in thirty years, he won't be the one out on the street with neither food nor shelter, it'll be the common man. Fuck him and his politics. I don't particularly care either way since I don't really eat PJ, but that's just bad practice.
No joke, there's just too much overflow from debt and loans because of astronomical medical bills and inane regulations.
This guy just seems to be looking out for himself, because, let's face it-- in thirty years, he won't be the one out on the street with neither food nor shelter, it'll be the common man. Fuck him and his politics. I don't particularly care either way since I don't really eat PJ, but that's just bad practice.
RumblingRosco
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I never order pizza unless it's at least 50% off, but most of the time I get it for 75% off if not outright free. I will gladly pay $0.20 more per pizza if it provides healthcare for their employees, that's a no-brainer.
Shadow Hog
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More of a Red Baron person, myself.
Nah, it's crushed tomatoes in a huge can + a big seasoning packet. Then you mix it up in a big empty pepperoncini bucket that's been washed out.
This is not about a single pizza company.
We have a reduced economy. Meaning maybe we could support 5000 Starbucks, but now we can only support 4000. Which means maybe twenty thousand jobs lost.
Same with Papa John's. 20 cents is what, two percent of a pizza. So two percent of Papa John's close. But beyond that, the higher price and the fact that people have less money, goes beyond that 20 cents that seems so small.
It is a very complicated equation that goes beyond spending 20 more cents for a pizza. I do not know where this all ends up. But there is more to consider.
One thing I never understood about pizza chains is the prices...I can go to a local mom and pop and get a pizza for $11 or go to Papa John's/Pizza Hut and its $15 or more? Shouldn't they be getting ingredients a whole lot cheaper since they are buying for an entire chain? Or is it just that they get triple the profits per pizza compared to a local shop?
Of course, but that's for Papa John's to consider.
Whether or not they increase price (and with a > 40% profit margin I don't see how they could justify it, not that they'd need to) is up to them. But regardless of what they do they do not need to stir shit up by crying about Obamacare.
No one buys chain pizza at menu price. There's always a deal/coupon.
HoodWinked
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you know whats funny they complain but will use this as an opportunity to further increase profits.
for example lets say the actual cost for them to offset the healthcare cost would require them to increase price per pizza 50 cents. so they just raise the cost a full dollar and make an additional 50 cents profit. LOL.
for example lets say the actual cost for them to offset the healthcare cost would require them to increase price per pizza 50 cents. so they just raise the cost a full dollar and make an additional 50 cents profit. LOL.
adamsappel
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Papa John's is my daughter's favorite pizza, so we have it a couple times a month. I think it's terrible; the sauce is so sweet. It's not even that cheap, since most of the specials are for multiple-toppings, and she only likes cheese. I'd gladly pay 15 cents extra to give their workers health insurance, though I'd rather pay more in taxes and give it to everyone. I think he made a mistake with a hard number cost, though. If it becomes a bigger expense, everyone will think he's gouging the customer. If not, that seems pretty cheap for health insurance. Maybe he could offset it by not including that little tub of garlic grease that I simply throw away.
HoodWinked
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like i said they'll just raise a full dollar 10.99
captmorgan
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Ill just subtract 20 cents from the delivery drivers tip problem solved.
Daydream Sequence
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Has no one sued them yet for calling what they make "pizza"?
Emerson
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Probably.
What a shitty company. Here's how you know it's bad: They're running a 50% off delivery orders promo right now, and even with that it's more expensive to order a Pepperoni pizza from there than a local (better) place. More expensive, $2 delivery fee, and so on.
rudieboy77
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Yep, 50 years from now when it is still in effect and maybe even fine tuned to work better and cover more people, they will still call it Obamacare. Just think if they had called Social Security Rooseveltcare? Also ever notice some of the greatest progress of the 20th and so far 21st century were enacted by Democratic Presidents (New Deal, FDR, Great Society/ Civil Rights, LBJ, the start of universal health care/reform, Obama)
EatinOlives
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In before the inevitable Papa John's appreciation day wherein Republicans convince right-wingers to flood their local PJs for spite.
I've had it and I can confirm it is actually pizza.
I haven't noticed that chain joints charge anymore than local places. Seems about the same to me overall.
As for the Papa John's deal, unless you've got some dirt cheap local place, the pepperoni pizza from PJ's should be a fair bit cheaper. Its $12.25 plus tax for a large. And you can add a second large one-topping for just $7.99 and then with the 50% promo you're only actually paying $13.xx, including delivery fee. Thats pretty cheap.
Emerson
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Here in a college town I can easily get a large pizza and breadsticks for less than 13 dollars, including tax and tip. Papa Johns will be about the same, but only with the 50% off (therefore way too expensive without promo) and less good.
Well thats dirt cheap. I dont think most people will be as lucky.
OrangeGrayBlue
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This country is going to be divided sharply between lean, healthy democrats and fat, sweaty republicans if fast food companies keep giving dems reasons to boycott them and repubs reasons to support them. Imagine a world where you can tell someone's political affiliation by their pants measurements!
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