Yeah, I think MS should encourage the OEMs to prioritize cheap Windows 8 Atom tablets over ARM
Microsoft Surface Tablet announced
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Yeah, I think MS should encourage the OEMs to prioritize cheap Windows 8 Atom tablets over ARM
Shogmaster
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Haswell? Are you high? It's Ivy Bridge.
Haswell or no, it's on like donky kong! 30 day ban. If I win, I can opt to give you a choice of different punishment. If you win, it's 30 day ban for me. You win if Surface Pro comes out at less than $850 MSRP (no online coupons or specials or whatever sales deals) with any configuration.
No need for worries. This is like taking candy from a baby.
It has a nice well understood UI and a big infrastructure and the most popular office software in the world?
I should note I work for MS in a different division, as full disclosure, but those are just the reasons I am looking forward to buying one. I'm not shilling, I have an iPad, but I also actually really want a Surface and will likely have to pay full whack for one.
Shogmaster
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Yep.
Aren't you guys supposed to get one for free? God Steve is cheap.
Shogmaster
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I wish.I think Frankie has enough pull for a free one. He's just being coy.
Shogmaster
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Send Mister Chief on a procurement mission.
xValentine
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Man, I still don't get the appeal of that UI.
The Abominable Snowman
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Wow, so it's possible Chinese OEMs could beat other big names to the field with Windows 8 Ivy Bridge tablets?
Anton Sugar
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Holy shit, you got to use it? How did it feel?
Wait till you use it. I'm looking forward to it!
Complex Shadow
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if by that you mean, you can't comprehend what constitutes as unreasonable pricing for early adopters. then yes you're dropping bombs.
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Screw the ban bet - whoever loses should have to buy a Surface Pro for the winner (or face a permaban).
I don't think the mods here enforce/support ban bets either way, so it will be on your honor to uphold a self-imposed ban.
I think it's really charitable to assume that just because MS said that the device would be "comparable to ultra books", that means it will be as cheap as the lowest-priced ultra book.
There are already 2 announced. Acer w510 and Lenovo Tablet 2. Hopeful something from Asus too. Lenovo is probably too expensive for me.
Damon Bennet
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are you sure that tablet 2 is not based on atom?
I thought he was talking about Atom tablets. I don't follow intel code names.
Damon Bennet
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Ivy Bridge: High End Intel
Clovertrail: Next Atom Version in most WIn8 Tablets.
Nobody knows how good clovertrail will be, though
yn-neko hates a cat
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Still no talk about how much ram we can expect on these Pro versions? Is it a safe assumption that all Windows 8 x86 tablets will run 64-bit versions of Windows 8... hell, will there even be none-ARM 32 bit versions of Windows 8?
brotkasten
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The ThinkPad Tablet 2 is Atom.
SquiddyCracker
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Hm, how do you guys think the Surface tablet (and other metro tablets) compare with the new Samsung Note 10.1 as a sketch/note taking device?
Damon Bennet
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handwriting in windows is pretty good. you open onenote, start to write down stuff with the pen and you can actually search for your contents later. so good. onenote in general is pretty great
Well any win8 pro is going to have an advantage since it can run full fledged art programs like photoshop and painter (if it's powerful enough to run it properly). Though the Note does have sketchbook as well.
brotkasten
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Lenovo ships the TPT2 with only 2 GB RAM and yes, there's still a 32-bit version of Windows 8. You can thank Intel for that.
I haven't agreed to that. Stakes need to be up front or no diceHaswell? Are you high? It's Ivy Bridge.
Haswell or no, it's on like donky kong! 30 day ban. If I win, I can opt to give you a choice of different punishment. If you win, it's 30 day ban for me. You win if Surface Pro comes out at less than $850 MSRP (no online coupons or specials or whatever sales deals) with any configuration.
No need for worries. This is like taking candy from a baby.
It's a 30 day ban or an alternative choice that you can say no too.
Here's a video of the new Leveno win 8 tablet, complete with a freeze/crash. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANZOhsZesOw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
lol, looks like desktop orientation changes need some work.
-Pyromaniac-
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no one got to use it, it's vaporware.
just don't get what's so good about a 1000 dollar computer. I mean it better be beyond fucking amazing at that price.
Dreams-Visions
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I really want to jump on this day 1, but if I wait couple of months manufacturers will make better tablets.
maybe one geared for digital drawing
maybe one geared for digital drawing
I think this is what the tablet market will play out for the rest of the year:
Aug: Galaxy Note 10.1 release (really late, why didn't they upgrade the screen resolution?)
Aug end: Galaxy Note 2 announce
Early Sep: I am guessing MS sneak in the Surface RT accessories/price announcement here
Sep 12: iPad mini (and release?)
Oct 26: Surface RT release,
Also release: Asus RT tablet, Lenovo Atom tablet 2, Acer Atom 10" tablet w510, Dell Latitute 10 Atom tablet (probably also a crappy HP Slate 2? )
Who else in the RT club again? Samsung?
So far Samsung is the only one who hasn't shown its hand. What's the chance of a i5 tablet announcement to shock the world? Probably not very high.
Jan 2013: RT license restriction lifted (haha like who cares)
Jan 2013: Surface Pro release.
Aug: Galaxy Note 10.1 release (really late, why didn't they upgrade the screen resolution?)
Aug end: Galaxy Note 2 announce
Early Sep: I am guessing MS sneak in the Surface RT accessories/price announcement here
Sep 12: iPad mini (and release?)
Oct 26: Surface RT release,
Also release: Asus RT tablet, Lenovo Atom tablet 2, Acer Atom 10" tablet w510, Dell Latitute 10 Atom tablet (probably also a crappy HP Slate 2? )
Who else in the RT club again? Samsung?
So far Samsung is the only one who hasn't shown its hand. What's the chance of a i5 tablet announcement to shock the world? Probably not very high.
Jan 2013: RT license restriction lifted (haha like who cares)
Jan 2013: Surface Pro release.
SquiddyCracker
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What about the Win8 RT tablet?
Seeing as that one is more likely to end up in the same price range of the Samsung Note 10.1 (500-600 dollars).
brotkasten
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Thank you for linking this video. The Windows everyone knows and loves is still there. I hope the bitching will stop now.
Well that entirely depends on what apps come out on the windows store. It won't be able to run all the desktop art programs.
Shogmaster
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Just tell him what it is, sp he can sleep at night. Tell him you get to name his first kid or something (this wage is an actual bet between two movie critics)
Shogmaster
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What's the fun in that? Besides, he can always opt for the 30 days self ban.
SquiddyCracker
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And probably won't have as wide-spread support as Android, right?
Well, it looks like Note is the way to go then at a $500 budget.
You should wait for the Lenovo Tablet 2 price. Its an atom tablet that has battery life almost as long as the note; has pen support and runs real photoshop; plus you can dualboot Android.
Really the only down side is shorter battery life and maybe 100 more expensive.
You can?
All Atom netbooks can as far as I know.
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