Antagonist is not a synonym for villain. Skylar is only a villain if you think Walt is not merely the protagonist but a hero. If that's what you think, then refer to my earlier post where I expressed concern for you.
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Antagonist is not a synonym for villain. Skylar is only a villain if you think Walt is not merely the protagonist but a hero. If that's what you think, then refer to my earlier post where I expressed concern for you.
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Skyler and Walt are gonna be the bonnie and clyde of Albuquerque until shit gets too hot and they gotta flee.
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this girl knows no bounds.
Gucci Messiah
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http://thesaurus.com/browse/antagonist
Enemy = Villain
http://thesaurus.com/browse/enemy
Come at me.
You need to go actually read what the definitions of the words are and come back.
EdibleExplosives
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It's pretty obvious Walt is gonna be the villain against the rest of the characters eventually.
My god, I hate this shit.
My god, I hate this shit.
Skylar is a villain because she doesn't want the sociopath father to support her family with drug money?
Is it possible *gasp* that a show doesn't have a villain at some points? Or that Walter has been one of the villains for the entirety of the show?
Tony Soprano is a villain, main character also. By the end of season 6 of The Sopranos, Tony is bad to the bone.
Is it possible *gasp* that a show doesn't have a villain at some points? Or that Walter has been one of the villains for the entirety of the show?
Tony Soprano is a villain, main character also. By the end of season 6 of The Sopranos, Tony is bad to the bone.
-Pyromaniac-
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Skyler is a criminal. A FILTHY DISGUSTING CRIMINAL.
2 MORE DAYSSSSSSSSSSSSSS TIL NEW EPISODEEEe.
FEEEEL ITTTT.
2 MORE DAYSSSSSSSSSSSSSS TIL NEW EPISODEEEe.
She isn't no. She is great. But for now I hope next episode will not have her at all just to make this topic a better place. One week of no Skyler whining, that's all I ask!
But for real, looking forward to the next episode. Can't wait to see that mess get even worse!
I don't know how anyone who can hate SkySky after this weeks episode.
Gucci Messiah
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Nah, I win
Gucci Messiah
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Skylar is a villain because she doesn't want the sociopath father to support her family with drug money?
Is it possible *gasp* that a show doesn't have a villain at some points? Or that Walter has been one of the villains for the entirety of the show?
Tony Soprano is a villain, main character also. By the end of season 6 of The Sopranos, Tony is bad to the bone.
Skyler is a villain because I want Walt to succeed. It's not hard to understand, jesus people
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awww shit. No more evidence required. BOMBS DROPPED.
you can't use star wars III to bring this debate to a close, c'mon son.
There was a lot of dumbshit in that movie but I remember saying 'what the fuck' outloud when he said that. Even more egregious than the sand garbage.
Gucci Messiah
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Okay, now i lose
Walt has saved Jesse's life twice, taken out a cartel-connected mob boss, and is a loving and devoted father. He's basically the hero.
Skyler is trying to take her son away from his loving and devoted father. That's a pretty huge negative influence if you ask me.
Some people don't want him too, and even then, the point of the show isn't "Will Walter win or lose this time?".
The show doesn't cater to people that want Walter to succeed, and if you think Walter isn't going to pay for all the shit he's done, then you're being delusional, because he's already lost his wife's love and support.
Man, I'm not even going to bother.
By your definition Tony Soprano is a hero.
Which sucks, because he's willing to do everything except quit his job in order to keep that family together.
Gucci Messiah
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That loss of skyler's affection must really be the dagger, you convinced me
There's no point in convincing you, the way you interpret Breaking Bad is very different from how I interpret it.
With your thought process, if Walt Jr. finds out what his dad does and rebels against him immediately, he'll be a villain. That's fucking twisted, sorta like Walt's thought process right now.
Joke question? It's clearly Joffrey.
Harry Dresden
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You didn't get the joke.
-Pyromaniac-
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lol Obama kind of looks like Gus in that angle.
IrishNinja
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okay i absolutely get that Walt is his own villain/worst enemy, but how is he not the main?
Harry Dresden
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Walt is the protagonist. That doesn't mean he is or has to be the hero.
IrishNinja
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...oh. yeah, anyone who's seen The Shield, Dexter etc should know that.
The ending to The Shield is one of the darkest and best endings in all of media, pure, unadulterated tragedy.
My point simply being The Shield is fucking fantastic.
Infinite Justice
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not hate but still apathetic for me.
Ugh, dexter. They do too much to try to make him likeable. They bend over backwards to justify his killings to the audience.
I've definitely warmed to Skyler's character lately but she's always been the wet blanket on the audience's party. As a character she might have been doing the right thing but she was going against everything I, for one, wanted to see happen on the show.
Only a Mike deals in absolutes.
Dude, Vic Mackey put numerous criminals behind bars, tried to help a drug-addicted prostitute turn her life around, and was a loving and devoted father to his children
(two of whom were autistic.)
Clearly he's the hero of the show.
Just kidding! Although I am starting to worry that BB is setting itself up for a very Shield-esque finale. I don't know if my heart can take another one.
Honestly this season is the one that finally made me go from vaguely disliking Skyler being on-screen to basically being on her side. Poor woman thought she was married to a Gale of the meth world, but is really married to Walt, and then that scene with them in bed... Ugh.
The sad thing is I think all of this is more true of Mackey than what people tell themselves about Walt.
lazybones18
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Not sure it was posted in here already, but....
http://consumerist.com/2012/08/dish...h-amc-because-they-live-in-farms-ranches.html
http://consumerist.com/2012/08/dish...h-amc-because-they-live-in-farms-ranches.html
lol why...
http://www.amctv.com/shows/breaking-bad/dea-evidence-board
and you get notes on the back of the photos too
I'm not saying he isn't. Was just explaining how the logic works for some people.
And I wasn't just saying that Walt is "his own" villain. He's a villain, period.
lol, puddles
IrishNinja
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both of these statements are true, and in hindsight, i regret making it appear as though these 2 shows are on nearly the same level of quality - they're not, the Shield >>>> anything Dexter has left to do.
really am hoping for an amazing ending here too.
Okay, Vic Mackey vs Walt time.
Don't highlight unless you've watched at least the first season of The Shield.
That is a HUGE fucking difference between the two. Walt hasn't even touched the surface of the abyss that Vic plumbed on a regular basis.
Walt is an antihero at worst.
Don't highlight unless you've watched at least the first season of The Shield.
Vic kills a completely innocent man in the pilot episode. Just straight up guns him down in cold-blooded, premeditated murder.
To this point in the show, Walt has not killed an innocent. Period. Now, if he had miscalculated the dose, and Brock had died, that would be different. But instead, Brock was merely inconvenienced for a weekend, and is now clearly healthy enough to game it up on his big comfy couch like a regular GAF member.
To this point in the show, Walt has not killed an innocent. Period. Now, if he had miscalculated the dose, and Brock had died, that would be different. But instead, Brock was merely inconvenienced for a weekend, and is now clearly healthy enough to game it up on his big comfy couch like a regular GAF member.
That is a HUGE fucking difference between the two. Walt hasn't even touched the surface of the abyss that Vic plumbed on a regular basis.
Walt is an antihero at worst.
BenjaminBirdie
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I'm done wading into Puddles (lol) but just to clarify for anyone else who might seriously buy into this, people have died from doing Meth who did not take it to kill themselves. So there's no way Walt isn't responsible for the deaths of innocent people, and that's without even taking the planes into account, which I consider him directly responsible for, but there's still a few "steps" away so I can see how some might not.
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