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Mitt Romney announces Paul Ryan as running mate
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The Chosen One
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Romney will probably give Ryan the keys to Air Force Two only on the weekends.
He legally can, but politically it's a shaky move. Lieberman did it, but Dole resigned from the Senate after tying up his nomination, and there were calls for Kerry to resign his seat even though he wasn't up for reelection in 2004.
It would probably not make him very popular locally at all, his district swung for Obama in 2008 and a halfhearted Congressional campaign would make it a feasible Democratic pickup.
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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Crazy.
He could have chosen to run with a sugar cube, and he'd seem less charismatic. It'll be easier to tone this guy down than to try to tone Romney up.
Black people had no rights not so far back. Nature and God must have had it out for us. get out. Explain that one Bulbo. I guess at some point God and nature thought it was time to throw us a bone.
Isn't Wisconsin more conservative? That Democrat got smoked in the recall vote. Really embarrassing for the dems
God gave everyone Rights, nature gave the Repubs the knowledge of those rights. Democrats are the devil's playthings.
And afterwards read something that is a bit more contemporary.
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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Biden ran in Delaware in 2008 as well. Ryan will keep his seat.
You know what would depress me, though? If Josh Mandel wins the Senate seat.
Smoked? They took back the state senate. They lost the governor race, but not by a huge amount.
Wisconsin will vote for Obama.
What? No. He got smoked. Wasn't even close. I was watching cnn that night. They expected it to be close. It wasn't. Romney has got Wisconsin locked down
GuyIncognito
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Solid pick, Mitt. Now let's go take back the White House!
"Only words no solutions"I think some voted against the Democrat because they did not like the idea of the recall in principal.
Ken Masters
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You know nothing about politics if you think Romney has Wisconsin on lock.
Them choosing to keep the current governor instead of electing a bad candidate in a recall election says nothing.
BertramCooper
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He won't. Dude is a schmuck and is down big in the polls.
I'm not a huge Sherrod Brown fan, but I'll vote for him because I like our senators to be split between the two parties. I think it best reflects our state.
53-46 when Walker outspent Bartlett 10-1, in a recall election that many didn't like the idea of a year after the event that inspired it transpired. It's not an issue.
It was the same gov that ran against him the first time and it was a lot closer then. The fact that the gov won the election says something about how people feel about Obama.
Ha.
it's from the movie Zoolander
It says nothing about how Wisconsin feels about Obama. They did exit polls during that recall and Obama trounced Romney.
Officerrob
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Is says how people feel about recalls. Go look at exit polling among independents and even democrats about how they felt about recalls. Do a little research before you spout-off
Not really. The Democrats completely, totally fumbled presenting an alternative to Walker, ended up finally deciding on the guy he beat in the previous election only a couple weeks before the recall, were outspent 7:1, and still managed to hang within a few points; it was a really embarassing effort but says more about how the campaigns were run than underlying demographics.
Ryan's district pipped for Bush in '04 with 53% but Obama with 51.5%.
There's only going to be one vice presidential debate and while Ryan will do better than Palin he isn't going to destroy anyone. Biden is a good debater and a good public speaker in general.
Mercury Fred
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lol!!!
Dude, what are you talking about? The results in 2010 vs. the recall were almost exactly the same.
2010: 52.29% Walker, 46.52% Barrett
Recall: 53.1% Walker, 46.3% Barrett
Subliminal
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I think pretty much everyone could do better than Palin.
Ryan is a complete idiot compared to Biden. Biden can run circles around him on policy without even trying.
Biden will eat Ryan for breakfast. Biden's entire demeanor and style is the perfect foil to Ryan's.
thanks!
if you are going to regurgitate bullshit you might want to at least spell the fucking guy's name right...
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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You can't be serious. Biden? That stuttering instant gaffe generator?
Four_Chamber
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I have no idea what Ryan brings to Romney's ticket? At least Rubio would have cinched up Florida. With this pick, I think Romney just gave Florida away. Without Florida, Romney has NO real believable path to the White House. The right-wing would vote for Romney anyway because Obama is pure evil (per Ted Nugent) anyway. Mind-boggling... you want to pick up moderate voters, not scare them the hell off.
Also, the ramifications of this pick have probably already helped the Democrat GOTV effort. Seniors and the poor have special interest in this vote. If, by some catastrophe Romney wins, they will have no one to blame except themselves for not voting.
Also, the ramifications of this pick have probably already helped the Democrat GOTV effort. Seniors and the poor have special interest in this vote. If, by some catastrophe Romney wins, they will have no one to blame except themselves for not voting.
I think Ryan's going to have it worse than Palin did in the debate. The optics are really bad for rolling out the heavy artillery against a fluff candidate with no real positions, especially when it's an old white guy taking apart a relatively attractive woman. You don't kick the puppy, you gently pick it up and place it on newspaper while winking at the voter and implying that you're preventing a mess on the floor.
Ryan, on the other hand, you can lay out and dissect, because his entire national rep is as a leading policy wonk and he fits the debate team stereotype to a T.
TacticalFox88
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWyk-Mr6cfc&feature=g-all-u
Obama already going for the jugular. Goddamn.
Obama already going for the jugular. Goddamn.
Ugh, had West Wing on the brain.
Don't see how that invalidates the point though, care to elaborate?
Mgoblue201
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RCP has Obama up by 5.4% in Wisconsin. In fact, out of every poll conducted this year, Romney has only won a single one. The Ryan pick may alter things, but my understanding of the situation is that he isn't exactly a darling of Wisconsin "independents".
He's prone to "gaffes," sure, but he's an incredibly smart and honest guy, and that comes across.
Biden actually comes across as warm and likable and can relate his policies to regular people. Ryan comes across as that overly-privledged nerdy stuck up college republican sort that nobody liked.
Debates are won on optics and personality, not policy. Just ask Nixon. Biden has that debate in a walk.
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