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Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 1 - Sundays on AMC

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FantasticMrFoxdie said:
Fuuuuuuuuuuuck.

And he's dressed in black.

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Can someone add the "banned" text to this pic? lol
 
Best episode this season easily, one of the best episodes of breaking bad ever and as such one of the best episodes on tv ive ever seen. Just god Damn. Perfection.
 
SalsaShark said:
Best episode this season easily, one of the best episodes of breaking bad ever and as such one of the best episodes on tv ive ever seen. Just god Damn. Perfection.
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This.

Last week I thought EP4 was the best of the season though. :D

It was so good, the suspense when they were busy with the train, me and my GF were rooting for them to finish in time without being noticed, when that happened we both cheered and felt happy, and a few moments later, BAM, EP ends, and we were in shock.
 
People like to knock probabilities and odd things happening on a show where a plane crashed right into walt's house. I never had an issue of what are the odds with this cause even though it is heavily grounded on reality I never took it as a realistic show trying to portray real scenarios. It goes for 'poetic' and metaphorical before probable, in that way the show has sensibilities much more akin to a movie than your average tv show.

This episode was just fucking fantastic on its own and it just weirds me out people not being able to recognize it as such based on stuff like 'how did Walt know that hank was gonna leave the office' gimme a break.

The pace, the cinematography, the acting, the lighting , the dialog, everything on this ep was fucking amazing, gripping, and intense. Action packed and nerve-wracking without losing meaning or clear foreshadowing. Breaking Bad at it's best.
 
More Skylar? That would require more pins for me to stick in my eyes. She's perhaps the most annoying character currently on TV.
 
SalsaShark said:
People like to knock probabilities and odd things happening on a show where a plane crashed right into walt's house. I never had an issue of what are the odds with this cause even though it is heavily grounded on reality I never took it as a realistic show trying to portray real scenarios. It goes for 'poetic' and metaphorical before probable, in that way the show has sensibilities much more akin to a movie than your average tv show.
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The plane didn't actually hit Walt's house, there were two planes that hit each other somewhere over Albuquerque.

And while I do think that people sometimes get unnecessarily nitpicky, given how Breaking Bad is usually really good about the little details, this one did strike me as a little off in regards to the heist. Like I said earlier, I still don't quite know what they were measuring the distance for on the tracks, since they didn't need to be on that bridge for the plan to work, but they had no idea at that point where the tanker car they needed would be.

The other stuff that people are complaining about, though, is all pretty explainable.

Walt knows Hank pretty well, and that he's the kind of person who's not really great with the heavy emotional stuff, so Walt turning on the waterworks would definitely have made Hank super-awkward. Him closing the blinds and wanting to get out of the room is a pretty natural reaction for him, given what we've seen of his character.

As far as the issues with the bug in Hank's office go, we don't know yet if that's sloppy writing. I don't think Hank would notice an extra doodad hanging off the back of his computer, but someone from their IT department would pick it up in an instant, so I don't think there's a danger of it being discovered right away. I think Walt just leaving it there would be sloppy writing, as even if Walt figured that nobody would notice it, Mike certainly wouldn't be that careless.

Basically, as long as they revisit the plotline at some point, then that's fine. But Walt potentially leaving fingerprints isn't sloppy writing, it's Walt being sloppy.
 
Vlad said:
The plane didn't actually hit Walt's house, there were two planes that hit each other somewhere over Albuquerque.

And while I do think that people sometimes get unnecessarily nitpicky, given how Breaking Bad is usually really good about the little details, this one did strike me as a little off in regards to the heist. Like I said earlier, I still don't quite know what they were measuring the distance for on the tracks, since they didn't need to be on that bridge for the plan to work, but they had no idea at that point where the tanker car they needed would be.

The other stuff that people are complaining about, though, is all pretty explainable.

Walt knows Hank pretty well, and that he's the kind of person who's not really great with the heavy emotional stuff, so Walt turning on the waterworks would definitely have made Hank super-awkward. Him closing the blinds and wanting to get out of the room is a pretty natural reaction for him, given what we've seen of his character.

As far as the issues with the bug in Hank's office go, we don't know yet if that's sloppy writing. I don't think Hank would notice an extra doodad hanging off the back of his computer, but someone from their IT department would pick it up in an instant, so I don't think there's a danger of it being discovered right away. I think Walt just leaving it there would be sloppy writing, as even if Walt figured that nobody would notice it, Mike certainly wouldn't be that careless.

Basically, as long as they revisit the plotline at some point, then that's fine. But Walt potentially leaving fingerprints isn't sloppy writing, it's Walt being sloppy.
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Dude that's even MORE unbelievable.
 
Hank is a grown-ass man. Grown-ass men don't break down, reach for each other's hands and say "I've made mistakes." Hank was trying to give Walt a minute to salvage his dignity.

Emo moments like that between grown-ass men are only acceptable after a full night of drinking or some coke or E. Even the full night of drinking one is questionable.
 
maharg said:
You did notice the part where I said I didn't think it was the case, right?

Also that post had nothing to do with the conversation about what Hank does or does not know about Walt, though I see how you connected it.
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Well yeah I just didn't quote both posts. :P Figured you'd see that I was also referring to that other post you made.
 
Are we sure the kid is dead? Like no chance there's a way for them to save him?

I haven't watched the preview so maybe it's clarified there but I can't help but wonder if we're in for another Krazy-8 type situation...
 
walt's fingerprints don't need to be on file for them to connect him to the bugs in the office. once hank starts suspecting walt, he will easily be able to get a sample of walt's fingerprints on his own. he is the head of the department now and can probably run his own print comparison tests at his leisure. walt's prints on the bugs could just be the final piece needed for hank to realize who walt is.
 
:O @ the whole episode.......just :O

The cinematography in this show is fantastic, it can't be said enough. They frequently use every shot I love in movies like the super wide angles, off centered characters to show scale, the Leone framing when 3+ people are on screen, the POV shots every time someone's using equipment, etc.

And that edit of Walt, Jesse and Todd cheering after the shot :LOOOOOOOOOOOL
 
I actually figured their plan was going to go south and they'd have to kill the guys running the train anyway. I forgot about the kid at the beginning, but my instincts about an innocent witness or two dying at the end of the episode were right. These guys are really some bad guys now (as if they weren't before).
 
Vlad said:
And while I do think that people sometimes get unnecessarily nitpicky, given how Breaking Bad is usually really good about the little details, this one did strike me as a little off in regards to the heist. Like I said earlier, I still don't quite know what they were measuring the distance for on the tracks, since they didn't need to be on that bridge for the plan to work, but they had no idea at that point where the tanker car they needed would be.
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They address that a bit on the podcast. When they were researching and writing that scene they found that the tankers had to be at least six cars behind the locomotive for safety reasons. Lydia probably would have known this from her job so they had a basic idea of where the tanker would end up.

The podcast is a great listen this week for people with questions about the logistics of the episode. They also talk about researching how quickly the methalmine would have diluted while dumping in water.
 
jred2k said:
They address that a bit on the podcast. When they were researching and writing that scene they found that the tankers had to be at least six cars behind the locomotive for safety reasons. Lydia probably would have known this from her job so they had a basic idea of where the tanker would end up.

The podcast is a great listen this week for people with questions about the logistics of the episode. They also talk about researching how quickly the methalmine would have diluted while dumping in water.
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And I think this is why it's one of the best shows on television. They don't have to show the characters doing all this boring bullshit because they've actually done all this boring bullshit themselves and they know it's workable. I love that kind of research.
 
Skyler to Walt: I'm not your wife, I'm your hostage.

Remember Walt's first hostage in Jesse's house? Walt was trying not to kill him, and asking for reasons to why he shouldn't.

Isn't it kind of similar to his relationship with Skyler? He is trying everything to work it out, but Skyler has been a stubborn bitch. She's asking for her own death, as the guy in the basement did when Walt found out about the piece of plate.
 
Fry8 said:
Skyler to Walt: I'm not your wife, I'm your hostage.

Remember Walt's first hostage in Jesse's house? Walt was trying not to kill him, and asking for reasons to why he shouldn't.

Isn't it kind of similar to his relationship with Skyler? He is trying everything to work it out, but Skyler has been a stubborn bitch. She's asking for her own death, as the guy in the basement did when Walt found out about the piece of plate.
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Ah the weekly Breaking Bad thread misogyny.
 
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